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(DIR) Post #B0eBysFEW0RYv8q30q by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2025-11-26T19:35:27Z
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Does #MAGA want us to call their loved ones fat and ugly? Maybe it's the kink or something.https://flipboard.com/@cnn/business-and-tech-fie8hiijz/-/a-qS2oxbwLR-WP6u45ndlApw%3Aa%3A132361178-%2F0
(DIR) Post #B0eCV62ujnlYzWRQCe by ryan@bemrose.social
2025-11-26T19:41:34.101512Z
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@wjmaggos Your mental illness is so fascinating.
(DIR) Post #B0eDzhnt1JXcjhZUy8 by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2025-11-26T19:58:00Z
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@ryanwhich came first? which is more organic?we have never had a president be so shitty to people nor was he like this before he decided to run. and of course then no Dems etc responded to him in that way then like you keep complaining about.he's playing a heel and it's working. the question for you imo is whether we should elect politicians who choose to play that role. I guess I'd even say yes if they were somehow fixing everything and making public dialogue no longer necessary.
(DIR) Post #B0eE94zKBquXFQOKxc by ryan@bemrose.social
2025-11-26T19:59:59.896393Z
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@wjmaggos That you think Trump is the first person worthy of disrespect to occupy the Oval Office is strong evidence of your illness.
(DIR) Post #B0eEDZY0VrpvBUkxcG by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2025-11-26T20:00:35Z
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@ryan I love how you always rephrase what I said.
(DIR) Post #B0eEc0jl4gQGSeuElc by ryan@bemrose.social
2025-11-26T20:05:13.627012Z
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Someone has to translate from word-salad gibberish
(DIR) Post #B0eEtfWUgbRTsc7bcG by ryan@bemrose.social
2025-11-26T20:08:25.185718Z
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@wjmaggos Coincidentally... That you think it is somehow worse for the country to have a President say mean things than it is for one to collapse our social safety nets by flooding the country with foreigners on the taxpayer dime... That is strong evidence of your cult membership.
(DIR) Post #B0eG2HO1tW0Da9pfF2 by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2025-11-26T20:20:51Z
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@ryan so it's bad that he's an asshole but you like the other stuff so you don't say anything? and that's true about lots of other stuff he does too? but I am supposed to speak up about bad Dems even more than I do and never vote for them even tho I might be doing a similar calculation but come to other conclusions?oh wait, I forgot. only others are to be judged. you're the guy who basically only spouts one sided talking points but we shouldn't think of you as supporting anybody etc.
(DIR) Post #B0eGD69029fztqxdTM by ryan@bemrose.social
2025-11-26T20:23:08.130739Z
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Okay, one more reply. I'm never quite sure exactly which meandering unfocused part of your posts you want me to respond to, but I guess you wanted the reply to the heel part.I agree he is playing the heel. 47 is quite a bit worse than 45 in that regard, and I suspect it's largely in response to the shit he's had to put up with to get here. I'll spare you the full enumeration of the illegal and unconstitutional bullshit that he's had to put up with from the party of Trump Derangement Syndrome, but it starts with constant unceasing libel from the media, turns into a three-year hoax about Russia, two unwarranted impeachments, an FBI raid on his family, lawsuits and indictments from corrupt AGs, and ends with him literally getting shot in the head. You'd be a bit miffed too, if you were in his position.Sure, it'd be nice if people could play along. But nobody on the left will ever give him the benefit of the doubt, and no one will ever be civil to him. So I can totally see why he's shed the civility himself.Am I okay with this incivility? It really doesn't affect me. I'm not in the room with him, and I don't watch 24-hour news. I'm far more concerned with what he does than what he says.Policing tone while not bothering to address actions is a weak argument.
(DIR) Post #B0eH4zccV1X9JDVxzM by ryan@bemrose.social
2025-11-26T20:32:52.544364Z
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@wjmaggos Yeah, see my point about meandering word salad...I know that you love to go back to that well of "Oh, but Ryan, you didn't say anything bad about Trump so you must be a Trump lover". It's part of your inherent need to avoid the message at all costs and only discuss the messenger.I don't need to criticize Trump. Half of the Internet is constantly spewing hate about Trump's existence, and criticizing everything from his immigration policy to his word choice when rebuffing a disrespectful journalist. It's already been said. What could I possibly say that would add to that discussion?When you add to the chorus, you look like a brainwashed madman. Think for yourself for ten seconds and say something I couldn't hear a hundred times over by accidentally clicking on a bsky link.I'm not asking you to "speak up bad about Dems". I'm asking you to use some goddamned objectivity and original thought.
(DIR) Post #B0eHIwspThT2rykcqW by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2025-11-26T20:35:04Z
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@ryan he doesn't get through the 2016 primaries without being the kind of asshole we'd never seen in national politics before. look at how he treated his GOP challengers back then. he took the Limbaugh approach to the party of Reagan and was rewarded for it. alt right pundit world, goaded on by the algos, learned so much from him.the Dems did not start this shit as many times as you say TDS.
(DIR) Post #B0eJGPXcfiICn3kWrA by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2025-11-26T20:57:02Z
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@ryan please see what I've recently said about the Ukraine deal Trump is pushing and the conversation I had. that demonstrated objectivity and original thought imo. I'm sure you will say you didn't see that, yet feel no problem pronouncing about my failures.how should one respond to somebody who does this?
(DIR) Post #B0eJaOIuytiqkFOmS8 by Darren@planetrage.social
2025-11-26T20:40:54.563275Z
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@ryan @wjmaggos Thanks for the entertainment.This thread makes it clear Maggos has never read anything about LBJ's behavior!If you don't know anything about history, stay out of the debate.
(DIR) Post #B0eJaPorLcrnRbLnsW by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2025-11-26T21:00:36Z
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@Darren @ryan I am unaware, got a link?I've heard he talked to the media in the bathroom etc. maybe with his dick out. did he call them names to their faces? and I seem to recall recordings by maybe him and Nixon where they maybe even used slurs about the media in "private".
(DIR) Post #B0eKozq6K52RAORq08 by ryan@bemrose.social
2025-11-26T21:14:48.251555Z
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@wjmaggos > I'm sure you will say you didn't see thatYeah, just like I was sure you'd claim to have said that while I was asleep or otherwise not tuned into the All-Maggos Channel.
(DIR) Post #B0eKuj3VdZhMqmS3ge by Darren@planetrage.social
2025-11-26T21:06:24.906593Z
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@wjmaggos @ryan "I am unaware." Yes, yes, you are."Got a link?" It's not my job to educate you. Do your own homework.But if you think Donald Trump treats people worse than any other president, you're a fuckwit.
(DIR) Post #B0eKukhxUfeFyWNsNE by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2025-11-26T21:15:26Z
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@Darren @ryan https://nationalpost.com/opinion/the-most-vulgar-american-president-ever-it-sure-as-isnt-donald-trump
(DIR) Post #B0eLVdwDcwwzh1e3cG by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2025-11-26T21:22:12Z
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@ryan @Darren @phifer you follow me and regularly reply to me.isn't it common courtesy to not talk about people as one thing when you don't have the knowledge to claim that? when there is clear evidence that they are not that? if somebody endlessly does that, how should the subject respond?
(DIR) Post #B0eLyk8feSofK3LTU0 by phifer@crowleyclub.com
2025-11-26T21:27:17Z
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@wjmaggos >if somebody endlessly does that, how should the subject respond?THIS IS NOT MEDICAL ADVICE but every time a communist they/them would call me a Nazi even tho I'm very clearly an Agorist, I'd close the browser and watch porn instead. But then it went mainstream.Now I can't come until someone calls me a Nazi.@ryan @Darren
(DIR) Post #B0eNOB1gvDIRuElwjA by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2025-11-26T21:43:18Z
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@phifer @ryan @Darren the [bad progressive person term] called me a [bad conservative person term] so I stopped the public conversation (that might have been useful to our civic understanding by those reading but never posting).imo yea that's why we're here as a country and unable to elect a government that can fix anything. exactly what I might want if I was taking advantage of the current system.I think Elon knows he is doing this. I think jerk/woke fedi are being "useful idiots".
(DIR) Post #B0eOIrKeogQPKefi9g by ryan@bemrose.social
2025-11-26T21:53:48.921827Z
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@wjmaggos @phifer @DarrenWe aren't electing our way out of this one anyway. The people in power have sufficient money, sufficient useful idiots, and sufficient will to cheat (along with evidence that the public will let them get away with it), to retain power regardless of what the people want.This is what "democracy" looks like.
(DIR) Post #B0eOXph5BplSawIiwq by phifer@crowleyclub.com
2025-11-26T21:56:14Z
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@wjmaggos Dude, they called me that because I didn't get the vaccine, not for supporting any particular policy, so I wasn't ABLE to converse any longer publicly - trying to explain I wasn't a Nazi and I was just refusing the vaccine was dangerous misinformation and I was banned. That's how I got HERE.@ryan @Darren
(DIR) Post #B0eOr1VtT9tKkqDaim by phifer@crowleyclub.com
2025-11-26T21:59:37Z
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@wjmaggos But you're right, now I don't care to parlay with politically activated leftists, and it wasn't Elon who did that, it was them. Once they silenced opposing voices, their own opinions got exponentially more retarded to the point where you can't even approach them.@ryan @Darren
(DIR) Post #B0eP3cMKItIMVKkTjs by ryan@bemrose.social
2025-11-26T22:02:16.027168Z
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@phifer @wjmaggos @Darren Yeah, I'm old enough to remember back when Trump and all of those evil pound-MAGA conservatives were censoring people and getting them fired from their jobs because of widespread mass-hysteria about the common cold.Oh, wait, that wasn't pound-MAGA Doing it. Who was it, I wonder...(It wasn't that long ago either, but it may as well be centuries for people training their attention spans by fervently reading every single post on social media)
(DIR) Post #B0eP5p3G5IRgRrsgXQ by ryan@bemrose.social
2025-11-26T22:02:40.244733Z
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@phifer @wjmaggos @Darren Yeah, I'm old enough to remember back when Trump and all of those evil hashtag-MAGA conservatives were censoring people and getting them fired from their jobs because of widespread mass-hysteria about the common cold.Oh, wait, that wasn't hashtag-MAGA Doing it. Who was it, I wonder...(It wasn't that long ago either, but it may as well be centuries for people training their attention spans by fervently reading every single post on social media)
(DIR) Post #B0eQDGU2aipBVaWMT2 by bonifartius@qoto.org
2025-11-26T22:15:12Z
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@ryan @phifer @wjmaggos @Darren > training their attention spans by fervently reading every single post on social mediathere wouldn't be a massive problem if they were actually "reading" instead of scrolling though short form video :)
(DIR) Post #B0eTVhoW15SvLYaBc0 by phifer@crowleyclub.com
2025-11-26T22:11:59Z
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@ryan @wjmaggos @Darren I carry a durn grudge too.But don't worry, it's just Mandela effect - even if calling unvaccinated 'plague rats' and calling for their removal from society was accepted and prevalent on most social media sites, nobody that participated remembers it happening so I guess it didn't.After all, leftists would never use the government to 'other' anyone, censor them, ask for their papers, put them in camps, separate them from their children, etc.
(DIR) Post #B0eTVj49MRZ9EKuBcW by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2025-11-26T22:51:49Z
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@phifer @ryan @Darren but there were some lefties speaking out against this at the time. what I keep trying to focus on here is what mechanisms would allow such voices of reason to better win the argument next time.a more democratic media. #DemocracyOfReach less censorship but also deal with harassment.a greater willingness to criticize your own side cause we're all more receptive to those voices.less demanding that people agree with you 100% before you defend or promote them.?
(DIR) Post #B0eUFNY7gv4tooh5F2 by ryan@bemrose.social
2025-11-26T23:00:24.995631Z
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@wjmaggos @phifer @Darren Someday, William, you are going to realize that in the 2020s, "liberal" and "leftist" are no longer the same thing. You're eventually going to be forced to choose which one you really are. On that day, you'll become a much wiser man.
(DIR) Post #B0eUlV39L9uiLbWTWS by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2025-11-26T23:05:52Z
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@ryan @phifer @Darren same day this stops looking like surrender to tyranny, ancap bs or a suicide mission?https://bemrose.social/objects/44cf8e72-c965-426a-aa71-9cc8da68851e
(DIR) Post #B0eUplEz5KFDil5eca by ryan@bemrose.social
2025-11-26T23:06:59.768543Z
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@wjmaggos @phifer @Darren Clearly today is not that day.
(DIR) Post #B0eUwlmfSn3zQuBgNU by phifer@crowleyclub.com
2025-11-26T23:07:59Z
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@wjmaggos Again, I'm an agorist and a nihilist. My "side" and the whole libertarian "side" doesn't have a seat at the table where your side is arguing with the other side. We get to watch from the kids table thanks to the statist monopoly on violence. Arguing that point of view is useless, the machine of the state lurches forward while the "left" and "right" argue over direction and neither has a brake pedal.@ryan @Darren
(DIR) Post #B0eV52g0XbYG8o16ie by phifer@crowleyclub.com
2025-11-26T23:09:28Z
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@wjmaggos Oh and since nobody answered you LBJ *was* Trump with the added bonus of whipping his large cock out and threatening people with it. In the White House.@ryan @Darren
(DIR) Post #B0eVSrtYHIzdeWiHOC by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2025-11-26T23:13:46Z
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@phifer @ryan @Darren the best kind of elitism.
(DIR) Post #B0eVsa8YvM7w6fzm5Y by phifer@crowleyclub.com
2025-11-26T23:18:22Z
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@wjmaggos @ryan @Darren
(DIR) Post #B0eWGIsSkMI7WimBii by ryan@bemrose.social
2025-11-26T23:22:59.569821Z
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@wjmaggos @phifer @Darren A flawless argument! So independent thought = "elitism". Thus, the only way to not be an elitist is to shut off your brain and participate in groupthink - to let a political party do your thinking for you. Game, set, match!I guess you can count me as an elitist too under this stellar leftist redefinition of terms.
(DIR) Post #B0eWdH9jJUDeqdo5Kq by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2025-11-26T23:26:49Z
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@ryan @phifer @Darren he said arguing this is useless. have you never had somebody say we can't talk about this cause you'll never understand etc?
(DIR) Post #B0eX0zXITWWF9Q8f9k by racs@detroitriotcity.com
2025-11-26T23:31:24.530340Z
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@phifer @wjmaggos @ryan @Darren > whipping his large cock out and threatening people with itDidn't realise leftists were having wet dreams about Trump.
(DIR) Post #B0eXDNL7nd7AS4LmoC by phifer@crowleyclub.com
2025-11-26T23:33:21Z
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@wjmaggos homie you've said yourself you don't understand libertarians.The fact that you confuse complete disenfranchisement for elitism would support this. @ryan @Darren
(DIR) Post #B0eXPI4LDnn3a1BJkO by phifer@crowleyclub.com
2025-11-26T23:35:32Z
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(DIR) Post #B0eXb3tFlQfr51bloW by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2025-11-26T23:37:38Z
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@phifer @ryan @Darren I think I understand the arguments in theory. that anybody thinks it would work in practice is my problem. same with communism.
(DIR) Post #B0eb5oMdq4o3lahzHc by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2025-11-27T00:16:52Z
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@phifer the guy who dominated politics in Texas before the parties changed sides on race? shocking. maybe you'll tell me about Strom Thurmond next.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strom_Thurmond
(DIR) Post #B0f8PW3Sv2nTGCk6WO by fkq1q2r2@noauthority.social
2025-11-27T06:30:26Z
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@wjmaggos @phifer @ryan @Darren One has worked, the other has killed hundreds of millions of people. Idealogically similar but emperically disperate worldviews that attract idealists of various persuasions. The issue I have with leftists is their inability to condemn leftist ideals or people in plain language, such as unregulated immigration. This is with family, Discord, work, friends, and at large. Conservatives are more willing to plainly condemn their own, than a leftist.
(DIR) Post #B0figaf4dqsOoum5Xk by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2025-11-27T13:16:53Z
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@fkq1q2r2 @phifer @ryan @Darren Can you elaborate? Obviously communism did fail but I don't think we've seen the kind of libertarianism he's advocating for. Variations of a mixed economy and representative democracy work pretty well.And we've had plenty of fights between those generally on the left. Look at how Bernie was treated. Most advanced nations have universal health care but Dems don't even advocate it here. And we have poorly regulated immigration. Open borders is libertarian.
(DIR) Post #B0fl99diO5A5Jrt4AC by fkq1q2r2@noauthority.social
2025-11-27T13:44:29Z
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@wjmaggos @phifer @ryan @Darren Early America was largely libertarian, and it worked pretty well. I don't know the flavor of libertarian being argued by others; however, I'd argue that libertarian policy wouldn't support open or free migration as it would infringe on existing property rights and break the social contract.
(DIR) Post #B0fnQfsdyCSc8yLsZM by phifer@crowleyclub.com
2025-11-27T14:10:02Z
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@fkq1q2r2 Open borders is actual sound libertarian theory - at that point all border enforcement is at the private property level, and migration is a natural part of free markets.However as a practical matter most libertarians realize that we live in a highly regulated socialist economy instead of a free market, and immigration must be regulated as well as long as we're trapped in this Keynesian bullshit economic system, even if we find it distasteful.@wjmaggos @ryan @Darren
(DIR) Post #B0g3asPLqWkP9xXNBo by ryan@bemrose.social
2025-11-27T17:11:08.231954Z
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@fkq1q2r2 @wjmaggos @phifer Open borders work perfectly fine and comport very well with liberty. What nobody here is taking into account is the system that lets immigrants into the country and directly into taxpayer-funded social safety nets. Nets which would NOT be supported by a libertarian.Revise the system to end the free handouts and make everyone responsible for their own groceries, housing, jobs, jail time, etc, and you’ll see the number of immigrants go down, as the average quality of immigrants goes up.#IncentivesMatter
(DIR) Post #B0gC4xnZATZGCOilo8 by fkq1q2r2@noauthority.social
2025-11-27T18:46:15Z
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@ryan That's fair. Between being wage slaves, stock market, and technological advances the ability to defend your own land has been moved up to governments instead of individuals. Ideally, we should have the time and resources to defend it on our own.@wjmaggos @phifer
(DIR) Post #B0gDSYxJHhgk3R5zI8 by ScoWer22@noauthority.social
2025-11-27T19:01:44Z
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@fkq1q2r2 @ryan @wjmaggos @phifer but we will if it comes to thatprobably their worst nightmare.
(DIR) Post #B0i6ERSQ3USbNjszpo by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2025-11-28T16:49:55Z
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@ScoWer22 @fkq1q2r2 @ryan @phifer libertarian vs socialism tends to correlate with density of population and how much your way of life depends on other people. some people like crowds etc, some don't.the other fun thing about libertarians is how they think people will just compromise if we remove the state, while libertarians also tend to be the most stubborn."fuck your money, I'm standing on principle etc."
(DIR) Post #B0i6KMwZkXeD7XolI8 by ryan@bemrose.social
2025-11-28T16:51:14.302420Z
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@wjmaggos @ScoWer22 @fkq1q2r2 @phifer
(DIR) Post #B0i8NR3j6aKyf3kiB6 by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2025-11-28T17:13:54Z
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@ryan @phifer @fkq1q2r2 @ScoWer22 changing the subject.I said above that communism can't work.the real debate is over the mix of markets and public services and how. but it's much easier to just say you've got a better system while continuing to live in this one and mock the people trying to make it better.
(DIR) Post #B0i8bsn2nbNeimq2ZU by ryan@bemrose.social
2025-11-28T17:16:46.373122Z
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@wjmaggos @phifer @fkq1q2r2 @ScoWer22 Please explain to me again exactly what you think the fundamental difference is between communism and socialism, outside of degree and nomenclature.
(DIR) Post #B0i8paCwgTYn8yUDJY by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2025-11-28T17:18:59Z
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@ryan @phifer @fkq1q2r2 @ScoWer22 ask Darren so he can tell you to look it up.
(DIR) Post #B0i9OAzIRaAD3nb6LA by ryan@bemrose.social
2025-11-28T17:25:32.813447Z
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@wjmaggos @phifer @fkq1q2r2 @ScoWer22 Your sarcasm and glibness is noted. But I know how to look up what some self-entitled expert thinks it is. I asked what YOU think the difference is. YOU are the one making points about the topic right now.If there is a blog post or wikipedia article that details exactly the opinion of William Maggos on this topic, then I apologize, but without evidence, I continue to assume there isn't. Hence my query. This is how conversation works. Try not being an arrogant asshole for six seconds and get over yourself.(Or is this your way of telling me that you don't engage in thinking for yourself, and that I can reliably get all of your thoughts by reading whatever passes for Marxist academia these days? In that case, what the hell are you even doing online?)
(DIR) Post #B0iAkXPLrma0v80l3g by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2025-11-28T17:40:27Z
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@ryan @phifer @fkq1q2r2 @ScoWer22 it's my way of pointing out how you endlessly do what you demand what others don't. just like you make broad unfounded accusations about me while claiming I'm the one who always makes the conversations personal. and of course if I were to say what I think the distinction is, you'd say I was wrong. and if I linked to something, you'd say it was a self-entitled expert as you did.unless I agree 100%.if I mute/ignore you, I'm evidence of bad lefties.
(DIR) Post #B0iBXIrYjWMC01STDs by ryan@bemrose.social
2025-11-28T17:49:36.272179Z
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@wjmaggos @phifer @fkq1q2r2 What I understand is that you are very good at accusing others of what you do. For example, I think that on some level, you're vaguely aware that Darren and I are not the same person. I wonder if you may be intentionally conflating us so that you can then get indignant at all the folks who assume that every TDS-addled lefty cultist is the same person as well.And don't think I haven't noticed that You still haven't answered the question. I specifically asked what YOU think the distinction is. There is no wrong answer to that question.Besides, I already think that your ideology is warped and separated from reality due to your close alliance with communist progressives (but I repeat myself). You can't really make me think you're more wrong than I already do because of your repeated dodging the question.Honestly, I was just trying to find a common definition from which we could have a rational discussion. But clearly that's not something you feel you're capable of, which is why instead you lowered the tone by being a glib asshole.
(DIR) Post #B0iCEXcLkeC6DDxgES by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2025-11-28T17:57:09Z
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@ryan @phifer @fkq1q2r2 Ryan not being a glib asshole:https://bemrose.social/objects/addbbcf2-2795-4ab5-8a80-6dce899c953b
(DIR) Post #B0ifK9R7Sz4hckjgn2 by ryan@bemrose.social
2025-11-28T23:23:22.894701Z
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@wjmaggos @phifer @fkq1q2r2 I'll own that one. Yeah, I was being an asshole. But I wasn't wrong.Besides, bold statement there, from someone who publicly allies himself with people working against America to drag us all against our will into communism or socialism, but who isn't even able to articulate the difference between the two.