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(DIR) Post #B0W1zGHjIAVCaBzkxs by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:23:23Z
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OK, so I've read Trump's 28-point peace plan for the Russia-Ukraine war and here are my comments on every point of it. You can read it yourself here:https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/11/20/revealed-trump-and-putins-28-point-peace-plan-for-ukraine/(Click "expand".)👇
(DIR) Post #B0W1zHPZ6WMe4mfWoi by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:23:40Z
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"1. Ukraine's sovereignty will be confirmed." WTF does this mean?! Ukraine *is* sovereign. It needs no confirmation.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zIPxMYGtCHrM48 by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:24:04Z
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"2. A comprehensive [sic] and comprehensive non-aggression agreement will be concluded between Russia, Ukraine and Europe. All ambiguities of the last 30 years will be considered settled."That's good but contains a lot of wishful thinking.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zJMnplLK8nOLmy by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:24:58Z
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"3. It is expected that Russia will not invade neighbouring countries and NATO will not expand further."Again, WTF? This needs to be more precise. Is sending military "advisors" to Ukraine "expansion"? Is building a huge military base in a NATO country that is the closest to Russia "expansion"? Russia wants NATO contraction to pre '90s membership - but this clearly isn't going to happen; I hope the Russians accept that.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zKHASCQgxblMe0 by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:25:18Z
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"4. A dialogue will be held between Russia and NATO, mediated by the United States, to resolve all security issues and create conditions for de-escalation in order to ensure global security and increase opportunities for cooperation and future economic development."Good. I am all for dialogue and cooperation.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zLDewjDXt184oa by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:25:48Z
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"5. Ukraine will receive reliable security guarantees."Like, what? Ukraine *had* "security guarantees" when it agreed to return the nuclear weapons to Russia. Didn't do them any good. NATO Article 5-like guarantees? So that one false flag by Ukraine can ignite a nuclear holocaust?
(DIR) Post #B0W1zM81ZAIuhpV5fc by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:26:10Z
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"6. The size of the Ukrainian Armed Forces will be limited to 600,000 personnel."Fine with me. This was done with Germany after WWII - and Germany prospered. Besides, even if every man, woman, and child in Ukraine is given a gun, they still won't stop Russia; will only delay it.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zMjFKm4uZGuogi by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:26:50Z
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"7. Ukraine agrees to enshrine in its constitution that it will not join NATO, and NATO agrees to include in its statutes a provision that Ukraine will not be admitted in the future."This is too specific. What if NATO renames itself tomorrow? Why should obligations be put on NATO when resolving a Russia/Ukraine conflict? Ukraine should enshrine in its constitution not to join any military blocks, period. Also no foreign forces or military bases on its territory. That's the only way to make Russia feel safe.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zNTgY7E0tIdu4W by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:27:30Z
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"8. NATO agrees not to station troops in Ukraine."No. We're trying to resolve a Russia/Ukraine conflict, remember? *Ukraine* should agree not to station any foreign troops on its territory, period. NATO should be kept out of this. The US shouldn't be imposing obligations on NATO anyway.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zOEpiowHFWhYYq by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:28:37Z
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"9. European fighter jets will be stationed in Poland."WTF?! Again, this is an attempt to resolve a Russia/Ukraine conflict. Ukraine should not station foreign forces (fighter jets or anything else) on its territory. Europe can station theirs wherever they want, provided that the hosting country can and is willing to accept them. I don't care if it's Poland or Malta. Do not impose restrictions on Europe (or Poland) - impose them on Russia and Ukraine.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zP9CLG1e4L4ZPs by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:29:08Z
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"10. US guarantee:a) The US will receive compensation for the guarantee."Ah, yes, good old Trumpian greed. I thought we were pushing for peace out of the goodness of our hearts?
(DIR) Post #B0W1zPJ7kLxuZ7iUt6 by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:29:55Z
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"b) If Ukraine invades Russia, it will lose the guarantee."Makes sense on the surface. But what if Russia stages a false flag? Or what if Ukraine attacks and claims it's a Russian false flag? What if there is no invasion but a missile or artillery attack?
(DIR) Post #B0W1zPqRkScWETJ6pM by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:30:15Z
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"c) If Russia invades Ukraine, in addition to a decisive coordinated military response, all global sanctions will be reinstated, recognition of the new territory and all other benefits of this deal will be revoked."Again, good in principle - but what about false flags and other stuff as mentioned above?
(DIR) Post #B0W1zQ76kVwp496PnU by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:30:54Z
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"d) If Ukraine launches a missile at Moscow or St. Petersburg without cause, the security guarantee will be deemed invalid."Goddammit, why so specific?! What if Ukraine launches a missile at some other Russian city? What if it does some other hostile act of sabotage, like with Nordstream? What if it interferes with elections, conducts cyber attacks, stirs dissent?
(DIR) Post #B0W1zQZp1kusVCXLYO by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:31:26Z
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"11. Ukraine is eligible for EU membership and will receive short-term preferential access to the European market while this issue is being considered."No problems with this; in fact, I thought Russia never had problems with it, so why is it specifically mentioned?
(DIR) Post #B0W1zQqU1oFBKsKeWW by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:31:47Z
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"12. A powerful global package of measures to rebuild Ukraine, including but not limited to:a. The creation of a Ukraine Development Fund to invest in fast-growing industries, including technology, data centres, and artificial intelligence."Good. A Marshall plan for Ukraine.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zRT7i99VGiPVke by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:32:21Z
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"b. The United States will cooperate with Ukraine to jointly rebuild, develop, modernise, and operate Ukraine's gas infrastructure, including pipelines and storage facilities."Good.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zRo2SNsmJaCDLs by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:32:50Z
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"c. Joint efforts to rehabilitate war-affected areas for the restoration, reconstruction and modernisation of cities and residential areas."Good.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zSLMSUXNyvmpI8 by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:33:07Z
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"d. Infrastructure development."Good.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zSe9KdZAvCZpZo by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:33:25Z
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"e. Extraction of minerals and natural resources."Ah, yes, here comes the "gimme" part. But OK.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zTICvhbovRJp0y by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:33:50Z
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"f. The World Bank will develop a special financing package to accelerate these efforts."Shouldn't that decision be left to the World Bank instead of specifying it in a peace treaty? The World Bank is not at war with anyone.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zTeXafTQ2hlepE by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:34:51Z
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"13. Russia will be reintegrated into the global economy:a. The lifting of sanctions will be discussed and agreed upon in stages and on a case-by-case basis."Russia will have a problem with this. They want complete removal of the sanctions. And it kinda makes sense. But some of the sanctions are not imposed by the US. The US shouldn't be telling other countries what to do. Concentrate on resolving this conflict, please. Russia and Ukraine are at war, the US is trying to make them stop. A peace plan should talk about obligations of Russia and Ukraine and offers from the US and nothing else.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zTzoJaUH6fidyi by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:35:18Z
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"b. The United States will enter into a long-term economic cooperation agreement for mutual development in the areas of energy, natural resources, infrastructure, artificial intelligence, data centres, rare earth metal extraction projects in the Arctic, and other mutually beneficial corporate opportunities."Another "gimme" but whatever. Make trade, not war.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zUipcCV3MImb9U by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:35:42Z
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"c. Russia will be invited to rejoin the G8."This should be decided by a G8 vote. Stop telling other countries what to do.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zUvEs4QNymaVUW by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:36:42Z
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"14. Frozen funds will be used as follows:$100 billion in frozen Russian assets will be invested in US-led efforts to rebuild and invest in Ukraine. The US will receive 50% of the profits from this venture. Europe will add $100 billion to increase the amount of investment available for Ukraine's reconstruction. Frozen European funds will be unfrozen. The remainder of the frozen Russian funds will be invested in a separate US-Russian investment vehicle that will implement joint projects in specific areas. This fund will be aimed at strengthening relations and increasing common interests to create a strong incentive not to return to conflict."Ho-hum. On the surface, this is good and just. Russia broke a lot of stuff, so it makes sense that Russia uses their money to repair it. But I kinda doubt that Russia will agree. And again he's dictating stuff to other countries (Europe). Just stop it already.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zVRUw8EFapgGm0 by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:37:39Z
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"15. A joint American-Russian working group on security issues will be established to promote and ensure compliance with all provisions of this agreement."Good, but shouldn't Ukraine be included too? In fact, doing it on UN level is probably even better.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zVey830KGbz1lo by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:38:15Z
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"16. Russia will enshrine in law its policy of non-aggression towards Europe and Ukraine."Oh come on. So Russia is free to bomb Taiwan, if it so desires? Russia should enshrine in law non-aggression policy in general, like Japan did after WWII.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zW82NyFxilaF4y by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:38:34Z
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"17. The United States and Russia will agree to extend the validity of treaties on the non-proliferation and control of nuclear weapons, including the START I Treaty."Good. No nukes please.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zWSb9WhekXCf7w by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:38:52Z
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"18. Ukraine agrees to be a non-nuclear state in accordance with the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons."Excellent.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zWzDCGn6NgShxg by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:39:14Z
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"19. The Zaporizhzhya Nuclear Power Plant will be launched under the supervision of the IAEA, and the electricity produced will be distributed equally between Russia and Ukraine — 50:50."Good, although I doubt this was ever Russia's concern.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zXCKPVHb2MbBPE by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:39:53Z
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"20. Both countries undertake to implement educational programmes in schools and society aimed at promoting understanding and tolerance of different cultures and eliminating racism and prejudice:a. Ukraine will adopt EU rules on religious tolerance and the protection of linguistic minorities."Yes, please. All civilized countries have this. This whole disaster started when Ukrainian nationalists started oppressing Russian-speaking citizens.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zXx7bWiHNUUYLI by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:40:20Z
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"b. Both countries will agree to abolish all discriminatory measures and guarantee the rights of Ukrainian and Russian media and education."Good in principle but Russia might have a problem with some interpretations of it. I very much doubt that they would agree on letting LGBT+ stuff in the media.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zY9AsiM1ys8B84 by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:40:52Z
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"c. All Nazi ideology and activities must be rejected and prohibited."Absolutely. All self-respecting countries have that. It would be a good idea for the US to do it, too.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zYhYorrNhWDdj6 by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:41:51Z
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"21. Territories:a. Crimea, Luhansk and Donetsk will be recognised as de facto Russian, including by the United States."It has always been clear to everyone with a brain that Russia isn't going to give up their only warm-water naval base in Crimea. The rest is unfortunate and would have been avoided if Ukraine had better control of its Nazis, was forced to abide to the Minsk II agreement, or the Istanbul negotiations weren't sabotaged by the West. Now the damage is done, have to live with the results, I guess.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zYv20mdSNIWOiu by nicholas@aklp.club
2025-11-22T21:05:37.749689Z
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The first amendment is the only defense against enforced totalitarian ideologies. Once the government can outlaw an idea, the principle has been lost and there is no way to stop them outlawing every idea except nazi ideology (by another name).
(DIR) Post #B0W1zZarVG60T25nvM by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:42:12Z
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"b. Kherson and Zaporizhzhia will be frozen along the line of contact, which will mean de facto recognition along the line of contact."Whatever. As long as the shooting stops.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zfNxy7LUQm6aem by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:42:29Z
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"c. Russia will relinquish other agreed territories it controls outside the five regions."Fine.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zkGLprE1Yba4yu by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:43:16Z
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"d. Ukrainian forces will withdraw from the part of Donetsk Oblast that they currently control, and this withdrawal zone will be considered a neutral demilitarised buffer zone, internationally recognised as territory belonging to the Russian Federation. Russian forces will not enter this demilitarised zone."Establishing a demilitarized zone between the two warring parties has always been the best option, although probably it shouldn't be blatantly recognized as Russian? IMO, the whole of Donbas should have been its own country (or countries), belonging neither to Ukraine, nor Russia, and both of them agreeing to never try making it part of themselves.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zpBZX3NCpENpj6 by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:43:44Z
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"22. After agreeing on future territorial arrangements, both the Russian Federation and Ukraine undertake not to change these arrangements by force. Any security guarantees will not apply in the event of a breach of this commitment."Again, what about false flags? It's not beneath either side to stage one just out of spite and to undermine the other.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zv2vk61f0AO15c by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:44:07Z
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"23. Russia will not prevent Ukraine from using the Dnieper River for commercial activities, and agreements will be reached on the free transport of grain across the Black Sea."Excellent. Make trade, not war.
(DIR) Post #B0W1zzqhsyDdthhpEO by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:44:25Z
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"24. A humanitarian committee will be established to resolve outstanding issues:a. All remaining prisoners and bodies will be exchanged on an ‘all for all’ basis."Good.
(DIR) Post #B0W204dm4TqSl2h4Ge by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:45:05Z
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"b. All civilian detainees and hostages will be returned, including children."This is a bit iffy. What hostages? The Russians consider the children "saved", not "abducted". IMO, a UN commission should contact each child and make sure the child answers of their own free will where they want to go.
(DIR) Post #B0W209peljJwrLI7yy by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:45:23Z
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"c. A family reunification programme will be implemented."OK.
(DIR) Post #B0W20EUZRYQPJOSrJI by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:45:51Z
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"d. Measures will be taken to alleviate the suffering of the victims of the conflict."Yes, please. And that's *both* the Russian and the Ukrainian victims.
(DIR) Post #B0W20IuF23Kt0AVPsW by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:47:39Z
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"25. Ukraine will hold elections in 100 days."Yes! Zelensky has overstayed his welcome, election can be held if there is peace, and it will solve the Russian objection that they can't negotiate with an "illegitimate" president.
(DIR) Post #B0W20NcLW0zZc7AhBA by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:48:07Z
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"26. All parties involved in this conflict will receive full amnesty for their actions during the war and agree not to make any claims or consider any complaints in the future."Would be nice but I don't see this happening, especially regarding war crimes.
(DIR) Post #B0W20S7Kmk9lZNhV2G by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:48:34Z
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"27. This agreement will be legally binding. Its implementation will be monitored and guaranteed by the Peace Council, headed by President Donald J. Trump. Sanctions will be imposed for violations."Some specifics about how the members of this Council will be elected and for what terms would be nice. This should be at UN level anyway.
(DIR) Post #B0W20X7sAAYf6UzV4K by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:48:50Z
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"28. Once all parties agree to this memorandum, the ceasefire will take effect immediately after both sides retreat to agreed points to begin implementation of the agreement."Yes, please. Stop the killing already!
(DIR) Post #B0W20bgPDiYfElB8S0 by bontchev@infosec.exchange
2025-11-22T20:49:19Z
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All in all, the proposal contains some reasonable stuff, some bullshit, some stupid specifics, and some things that will be unacceptable to one side or the other (or both). Oh, yes, and it also contains typical Trumpian greed. Still, if it makes the war stop, it will be worth it. But I kinda doubt it.