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 (DIR) Post #B0VqcoNbGPgQAYpjMm by sam_harris@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-22T18:11:45.150377Z
       
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       Have wondered for a while about the origin of 'caucasian' and think it connects back to the central Asia Caucasus region. Which happens to be where a certain group of ethnicy people come from. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Caucasus
       
 (DIR) Post #B0VqcpMvaOjvElWhxQ by PamelaDrew@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-22T18:58:44.377029Z
       
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       "The word “Caucasian” as a description of white race is a remnant of 18th century racist thought, invented by anthropologists who categorized humans into racial groups and created theories about white superiority. In 1785, Christoph Meiners, a German philosopher, divided humans into two groups: the “white-skinned and beautiful” (“Caucasians”) and the “dark-skinned and ugly” (“Mongolians”). Meiners defined “Caucasian” to mean humans of a “higher tribe,” lighter in skin, and thus superior in nature to darker-skinned humans who were less beautiful and “devoid of virtue.” Johannes Blumenbach, a more prestigious German anthropologist, adopted “Caucasian” into his own racial schemata, classifying humans into 5 races: Caucasian, Ethiopian, Mongolian (“yellow” race), Malay (“brown” race), and Native American (“red” race).2 Blumenbach’s Caucasian “variety” were white-skinned, rosy-cheeked, narrow-nosed individuals who were “God’s original creation”; the other 4 groups were equally human but “degenerate” versions of Caucasians who had departed from the original human form". https://web.archive.org/web/20241103194620/https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8876079/
       
 (DIR) Post #B0VtBeeRcofO2cSEro by sam_harris@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-22T19:01:09.702976Z
       
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       So where and when did the supposed black, brown and white terms come from? Racialism sure isn't what it used to be.
       
 (DIR) Post #B0VtBfZADw2KsWzXH6 by PamelaDrew@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-22T19:27:27.529735Z
       
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       Answers are not that hard to find unless Google & Wikipedia are primary sources.. language and attitudes change with society to say any broad social attitude differs from historic ones is just duh. Classifications were adopted in census taking detail and assorted contemporary writers & thinkers influenced language choices used at specific time points.  "In the 230 years from 1790 through the present, the race questions have undergone extensive changes from one census to the next. Major changes resulted from immigration, emancipation and changing attitudes toward inclusiveness and race. It is important to note that self-identification has been in effect only since the first mail-out census in 1960; from 1790 to 1950, racial designation was determined by the observations of census-takers. Changes in the racial categories used in the decennial census from 1790 to the present, are summarized below. From this account, it is clear that many factors have been at play, such as immigration (for the Asian groups), changes in legal status (emancipation of African American slaves and the counting of Native Americans), and the growing self-awareness of the Hispanic/Latino population. "https://web.archive.org/web/20240528205615/https://www.communitysolutions.com/resources/short-history-race-question-decennial-census
       
 (DIR) Post #B0VuQrajtb3QTMXNC4 by sam_harris@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-22T18:55:19.717133Z
       
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       Sort of related."Circassians ultimately pushed the local Kurdish population out, and to this day the Kurds with roots in that region recall in a folk song how a "cruel fair-haired and blue-eyed people with sheep-skin hats" drove them from their homes.""The origin of the term "Circassian" is disputed. One view is that its root stems from Turkic languages, and means "head choppers" or "warrior killers", because of the Circassians' battle practices. Other sources argue that the term comes from Mongolian Jerkes, meaning "one who blocks a path"."German racial theorists, after comparing skull shapes, declared that Europeans, North Africans, and Caucasians were of a common race, termed "Caucasian" or later "Caucasoid". Scientific racism emphasized the so-called "superior beauty" of the Circassian people, referring to them as "how God intended the human race to be", leading to the 18th century stereotype of the Circassian beauty."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circassians
       
 (DIR) Post #B0VuQskha2cM4YCqMS by sam_harris@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-22T19:18:29.580881Z
       
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       "An anthropological literary suggests that Circassians were best characterized by what was called "rosy pale" or "translucent white skin". While most Circassian tribes were famous for abundance of fair or dark blond and red hair combined with greyish-blue or green eyes, many also had the pairing of very dark hair with very light complexions, a typical feature of peoples of the Caucasus. Many of the Circassian women in the Ottoman harem were described as having "green eyes and long, dark blond hair, pale skin of translucent white colour, thin waist, slender body structure, and very good-looking hands and feet". The fact that Circassian women were traditionally encouraged to wear corsets in order to keep their posture straight might have shaped their wasp waist as a result."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circassian_beauty
       
 (DIR) Post #B0VuQttxJ7c7dXXkQK by sam_harris@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-22T19:29:50.089848Z
       
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       Old books description of races.The abode of the Circassians, who are said to be the handsomest and best-formed nation, not only of this race, but of the whole human familyCornell's Physical Geography: Accompanied with Nineteen Pages of Maps, a Great Variety of Map-questions, and One Hundred and Thirty Diagrams and Pictorial Illustrations, and Embracing a Detailed Description of the Physical Features of the United StatesSophia S. CornellD. Appleton and Company, 1873 - Physical geography - 103 pageshttps://books.google.co.uk/books?id=p6waAAAAYAAJ&q=the+abode+of+the+Circassians,+who+are+said+to+be+the+handsomest+and+best-formed+nation,+not+only+of+this+race,+but+of+the+whole+human+familyIt's a lovely book that covers almost everything known about the world at the time.
       
 (DIR) Post #B0VuQuUp636XTsnBtA by Zardoz@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-22T19:39:16.951791Z
       
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       There are 40 subspecies of sea-gulls.  They are not easy to tell apart.
       
 (DIR) Post #B0Vzt82soUlJNmzyhk by sam_harris@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-22T20:03:55.700069Z
       
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       I think races is a made up term used by people to stir up shit. To my mind there are only various populations that come and go over time. Some are great others not so much. All depends on what actually happened during their lifetimes. Island populations have a relative peaceful seclusion and as a result had time to develop a superior culture compared to most others.If you're stuck in the middle somewhere you're going to get whacked from all sides on a daily basis so could make you fairly nutty, nasty and brutal. that's a fairly natural response in my view.
       
 (DIR) Post #B0Vzt919CQy4OhC6dc by PamelaDrew@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-22T20:42:32.594051Z
       
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       "If you're stuck in the middle somewhere you're going to get whacked from all sides on a daily basis so could make you fairly nutty, nasty and brutal. that's a fairly natural response in my view."Not sure what that means but quite certain it's not flattering.. must be nice to have all the answers & feel sufficiently informed to argue a point without a glance at the references.. gives me a cramp like insipid crop duster Plumb Island time waster which makes steady streams of far flung data points feel disingenuousness & mute tempting.. old age makes time worth more don't waste mine.
       
 (DIR) Post #B0W0urIQ9ro1y7efxY by Zardoz@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-22T20:47:11.097543Z
       
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       I have to disagree with you about race not being real. Hard to define?  Yes.  Same with “art,“ “porn,” and “culture”.  Observation is the heart of science.  We don’t turn it off because facts are used to divide and conquer.We feel free to make categories for Gulls and All other life on earth.   Why would Humans be different?
       
 (DIR) Post #B0W4q23V7xMRhtd9Ps by sam_harris@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-22T21:29:20.311459Z
       
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       Old school race map.Yellow is MongolPink is caucasianOrange is EthiopianGreen is MalayPurple/pink is AmericanThis says to me we don't know what races are. It's just made up any way you want it as long as it gets the job done.
       
 (DIR) Post #B0W4q3LGLPA9hGwqjw by PamelaDrew@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-22T21:38:00.021515Z
       
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       yawn
       
 (DIR) Post #B0WERUPzXNNfyU5OyW by sam_harris@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-22T21:42:35.182293Z
       
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       These are documented historical attitudes and you think that's a big yawn. Nothing to learn here at all.I hate this subject and honestly just wish people would figure it out once and for all eventually and then just shut up about it. All of it smacks of a made up collectivism based on a few colors. If you want to get a global war going this is probably how you would do it.Circassians were a distinct and extraordinary population - not a race. They were 90% wiped out not that long ago from this Earth and still no wants to even talk about it. They'd rather talk about fictitious blacks whites and browns. Now jews muslims nazis and scientologists can a bit of this action too. There are good populations and there are bad ones and within each of those are even more good and bad populations. Good populations are usually comprised of kin because they're quite alike mind-wise and motivated to help each other out. Not joking about scientologists - they actually believe they're superior to the rest of us and will probably setup their own controlled breeding program at some point. Then they can start to call us racists for simply pointing out what a bunch of wankers they are.
       
 (DIR) Post #B0WERVfcsjTtrGPOz2 by Zardoz@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-22T23:24:59.177663Z
       
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       The Circassians were an ETHNOS, which is why that word is important.  RAcially, they were caucasoids, but they had their own tribal Ethnos.  As losers of history, they have been painted as bad.  Nothing new there.  We have to talk about Race and we have to talk about Ethnos And we have to talk about Nationality pecisely because these are fraught topics.Color-blindness is a non-starter unless you don’t like white people and want them to go away.   Lack of racial awareness has allowed for a 90% racial replacement in my town in ONE generation.Look where liberalism and race-blindness has taken California?You can ignore reality, but you can’t ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.
       
 (DIR) Post #B0WQOfoftyaruG3TpA by Zardoz@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-23T00:06:46.709428Z
       
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 (DIR) Post #B0WQOglWNBfIqlaTY0 by sam_harris@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-23T00:10:15.820889Z
       
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       Have you seen Sasha Latypova's forehead? She's supposedly one of us but actually looks more like a jungle bunny. I don't want to be on her team.
       
 (DIR) Post #B0WQOhOs0t8monztse by Zardoz@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-23T00:18:20.469088Z
       
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       that thing makes a 5-head seem dainty.  it’s like a 8-head (2x a forehead)
       
 (DIR) Post #B0WQOi0njrTwiRkC0G by sam_harris@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-23T00:29:43.881653Z
       
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       By the way I'm all for repatriating the shitheads which would definitely include her.
       
 (DIR) Post #B0WQOidnOsfqfNzKme by Bernard@friends.ravergram.club
       2025-11-23T00:39:28Z
       
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       @sam_harris @Zardoz Race is equivalent to sub-species although some races could easily be classified as different species if taxonomy was consistent with other species classification.Russians were once very nordic and white, but the Mongols conquered them and interbred. Later the Bolsheviks killed tens of millions of the white Russians. So many of the Russians you see today are a mix of Mongoloid and European like Sasha.
       
 (DIR) Post #B0WQQMtxCKCnp2Kg88 by amerika@annihilation.social
       2025-11-23T01:39:53.330714Z
       
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       @Bernard @sam_harris @Zardoz Only Western Europeans are the Nordic-Germanic remnantSouthern Europe, the Irish, Eastern Europe, and the Mediterranean have become admixed
       
 (DIR) Post #B0WRWBdM6USwZFuIYi by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
       2025-11-23T01:52:08.820519Z
       
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       @Bernard @sam_harris @Zardoz They're all different types of Brassica oleracea dammit!
       
 (DIR) Post #B0ubr586QoxTu4o6Yy by AlainPetit77@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-23T20:51:01.656974Z
       
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       According to E Michael Jones the word white was used after the african and irish slaves joined to battle their slave owners so it was used to separate mankind and they also started to play better favour to the irish ceding division between them and the africans stopping any further coalition…They were separating and herding their slaves just as with their livestock…They were farming their fellow mankind and this took place in the usa…
       
 (DIR) Post #B0ubr6v3mHiJSCiiVk by Zardoz@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-23T22:58:05.291711Z
       
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       I say this to you with respect, but your story is very simplified.This story told by E Michael Jonea isthe same story told to us by Howard Zinn in “The People’s History of The United States” which is where I learned it.I do not doubt it’s true.  Seems like a logical move to D&C their slaves.  The Plantation owners did not create these differences—they merely exploited them.There are natural differences of the 2 Ethnos (African & Irish) beyond color Of skin. Without this context of Ethnos, we are left with an ultimately communist argument (which is why Zinn would tell it); class consciousness can overcome differences Of Color and such—we can all unite under the banner of the  Proletariat!Each successive wave to America was a different Ethnos which in those days was extremely different.  Each successive wave of European Ethnos took multiple generations to become American and then ultimately, as they lost their connection To Europe—the “American Ethnos” was formed.I think we can all agree that the American Ethnos was largely Anglo-Saxon based and fairly well formed by the 1950s. “White American” was the largest population group of people In America by far.  it is an “White America“ Ethnos exactly because the differences of the former European Ethnos faded.   Their loyalties to their European homeland and cultural mission was severed, so that the French and German American no longer had any appreciable difference.That is “White America” Or ”Whiteness“ if you are a Frankfurt School propagandist.  This is the “White” that Black people talk of when they accuse other BLacks of “Being Too White”Yes, our slavers have exploited differences whenever they can.   However,  just as important to note is that the slavers themselves are purposefully introducing different Ethnos into homogenous communities for the express purpose of creating the kind of atmosphere in which the slavers can thrive.   Multiculturalism.  All of this is discussed extensively in the Jewish/Zionist literature.  This literature is written byJews for Jews. The goals of these methods are also explicitly stated. why not believe them?
       
 (DIR) Post #B0ubr7mEaaFS77bBOS by AlainPetit77@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-25T01:56:10.830644Z
       
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       I say this to you with respect, but your story about white is incorrect for me…I am Catholic and Catholics come from every peoples throughout all of mankind…Irish catholicFrench Catholic My father had a cousin who was a Catholic priest in Nigeria and I only met him once that I remember I was in my early teens it was his first visit back in 20 years, most people who look at him would swear he was not white…True story there have been many priest in my lineage even royalty not sure of it was by blood or by status from Belgium for history gets dicey the further back you go…Like we really had a pandemic five years ago from official lying sources…I tend to put more trust in my actual lifetime experiences than what I get from books… I stay more grounded that way…My 2¢
       
 (DIR) Post #B0ubr8XNlHxiTLepsm by AlainPetit77@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-25T02:24:03.076083Z
       
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       https://x.com/XAlainPetit/status/1993143053952098518
       
 (DIR) Post #B0ubr94hlOcK8hFRp2 by Zardoz@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-25T02:34:57.645212Z
       
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       Judging by your reply, I would say I have not communicated my point well enough. I will try again later if I get the chance.
       
 (DIR) Post #B0ubr9gdUMxU2Kzjwe by sam_harris@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-25T14:24:58.330614Z
       
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       White, black and brown are the words given to us to fight over. Can you restate your case without using those? These are heavily promoted msn and alt-msn terms which by design are meant to take you nowhere except around in endless circles.
       
 (DIR) Post #B0ubrAKL6kiY1TZRpY by Zardoz@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-27T05:55:32.032075Z
       
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       This is like saying that different chickens flock together because farmers give them different names.  Humans are tribal, and if that weren't true, then Zionists wouldn't explicitly use multi-culturalism as a cat's paw to undo the strength of homogenous, White, Christian nations. Grievance politics is the art of using the States' monopoly on violence to facilitate minority rule.  The Tower of Babel is the ideal conditions for Jewish Mafia / Oligharchy to thrive.  Cultural (Ethnos) differences are the ones that really matter and skin color is just a simple proxy that the greatest number of humans can understand.   When everyone is the same color, language and customs are the indicators of difference.  I saw this first hand when I lived in Africa.  Race doesn't really matter when every 30 minutes of a bus ride means ANOTHER, different language is spoken.  Africans aren't uniting and they are the same race.  Pan-Africanism, the dream of Communists since Ghana became independent, remains nothing more than a mirage.But why assume people are the same?  Doesn't it make more sense that they aren't?  If you can accept that men and women are different, is it really hard to imagine that people are different too? Shall we just ignore "The Bell Curve" like I was told in College (It's RACIST!!)?Why aren't there more Chinese NBA players?  Why aren't there more African Chess Grandmasters?  Why aren't there more White sherpas? Why aren't there more Latino Strongmen?Is it really just CULTURE?I can say as a former Marxist Cultural Anthropologist that the Tabula Rasa (blank slate) view of humans simply makes no sense.  Culture is an epigenetic force and is both upstream AND downstream from genetics.  Culture is evolutionary adaptation for specific environments.  It is a biological process, not a mystical process. I should mention that Cultural Anthropology is a deeply unserious scholastic discipline, and one that pushes egalitarianism--a communist philosophy which doesn't even pass surface examinations.  The funny thing is that Jews aren't shy about boasting about their alleged superior IQ--All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.....The argument that Whitey created race categories is a LEFTIST argument (See below).
       
 (DIR) Post #B0ubrAoTIiovWvfVnU by AlainPetit77@gigaohm.bio
       2025-11-23T21:16:24.441814Z
       
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       as well as elsewhere where slaves were kept…
       
 (DIR) Post #B0ubrAxKlluRyPoabw by prisondoc@gigaohm.bio
       2025-12-04T13:52:42.366509Z
       
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       The argument that we are all equal has no basis in fact or reality. It is just a means to gender jealousy and envy which can then be directed. Its purpose is to degrade humanity. Through this lens every unequal representation is a sign of foul play which needs correction (of course by the governing authorities using money that is not from them). Since when did the saying Birds of a feather flock together become incorrect.