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(DIR) Post #B0T1NpoOAnY2HxXqTY by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-11-21T10:15:07Z
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So, this weekend I plan to clean under the stove. I've bought some tile glue and a replacement tile in anticipation of the floor being so bad it needs to be replaced in that area. I'm ready. However: Can I ask a question please?How exactly is one supposed to keep the area under the stove and fridge clean? You know, in the ideal world? Are we meant to move it every month?Why are there so many designs that are not sealed off OR open enough to fit a mop?
(DIR) Post #B0T1V7xD7RAuaD9Gym by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-11-21T10:16:23Z
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I sitting here filled with guilt since in like 17 years I've only clean under the stove and fridge like four times. Gross right?Yeah, but I need help to move them. This is bad planning. I have been set up to fail and feel gross.
(DIR) Post #B0T1kgeSOeYmXUnQDw by jerzone@techhub.social
2025-11-21T10:19:11Z
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@futurebird I think cat toys, being knocked underneath, start to form a natural barrier to keep dirt out.
(DIR) Post #B0T1mVnZibzpSUvncm by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-11-21T10:19:35Z
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@jerzone This is disturbing me because you may be correct.
(DIR) Post #B0T1uUhffsOUNWyZe4 by freequaybuoy@mastodon.social
2025-11-21T10:20:59Z
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@futurebird Train some ants?
(DIR) Post #B0T23thq5Hw8WsXRLc by mensrea@freeradical.zone
2025-11-21T10:22:40Z
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@futurebird oh that's an easy one: you just don't look. then it's just as clean as when you move the fridge / stove in
(DIR) Post #B0T27EFe9bNh7NwLdw by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-11-21T10:23:19Z
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@mensrea On the times I've cleaned I Have Seen Things
(DIR) Post #B0T283A4s4EJ0sj7Xk by jerzone@techhub.social
2025-11-21T10:23:18Z
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@futurebird Ours mostly consist of some kind of plastic spring cat toy my wife bought them years ago. A different kind of spring cleaning.
(DIR) Post #B0T28vLdPJYn4MY73Q by useravoiding@mastodon.social
2025-11-21T10:23:33Z
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@futurebird These spaces aren't mostly that bad. Most of it will be dust (that is human skin and hair). Just hope there haven't been any oil leaks from the stove - those are the hardest to clean, but the most effective way is to use those stove detergents. Let it soak for 30mins and everything will come off.
(DIR) Post #B0T2fBju03KxAnHjY8 by lilo@muenster.im
2025-11-21T10:29:15Z
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@futurebird Because it's not the same people designing things and doing the cleaning.
(DIR) Post #B0T3GQEB5yvap3CVAe by jerzone@techhub.social
2025-11-21T10:36:09Z
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@futurebird The stove doesn't bother me as much as the fridge. Its coils are underneath and require thin vacuum attachments and a patient, steady hand to clean without bending fins. Since there's a big fan at the far end, it is designed to pull dirt through to clog the coils and make it less efficient. Or they expect a much more rigorous cleaning of the surrounding area than we signed up for.
(DIR) Post #B0T3xckiP8Aw7T1Iga by delcj@mas.to
2025-11-21T10:43:58Z
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@futurebird in the ideal world, i would have actual movable refrigerator risers instead of the makeshift planks my fridge is on.
(DIR) Post #B0T4A6iKpkAWWDrKQy by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-11-21T10:46:13Z
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@delcj Do any of these design people think about these things? Like at all?I bet most people have a gross "crumb and soon to be sentient dust bunny" zone under there. You can clean a few inches in with a mop, and use a broom to get the cats toys out... but it's gross.
(DIR) Post #B0T7uSopHT9cG5gvbc by mansr@society.oftrolls.com
2025-11-21T11:28:09Z
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@futurebird Shortly after moving into a flat, I had reason to pull the fridge out and found a whisky bottle behind it. It was empty, fortunately, since I wouldn't have dared drink it, but it would still have seemed a waste to discard it.
(DIR) Post #B0T8z0jrD2mCZV6Dh2 by llewelly@sauropods.win
2025-11-21T11:40:14Z
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@futurebird the real friend is all the time and energy we've saved by *not* regularly cleaning under fridges and stoves and other heavy things.
(DIR) Post #B0T9hOBzN0sK3OQ1ya by mensrea@freeradical.zone
2025-11-21T11:48:14Z
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@futurebird see. you shouldn't have looked
(DIR) Post #B0TBbNuZhXz7LyXQY4 by slothrop@chaos.social
2025-11-21T12:09:35Z
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@futurebird I think the normal approach is to look at this not as “dirt” (anthropocentric, judgy), but instead as a vibrant ecosystem (objective, appreciative)
(DIR) Post #B0TNEN2HzPhvQYwH7w by baibold@mastodon.social
2025-11-21T14:19:52Z
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@futurebird My guess would be that installing cabinets/countertops is expensive, and not all fridges are the exact same size. There must be room for variation.People also usally want maximal cabinet space, so we end up in this weird space.I think the answer is to custom-fit a frame around the fridge to prevent the stuff from getting back there. Though need to be mindful that the fridge also needs to vent out all of its waste heat.
(DIR) Post #B0TQNb4bT5XlQr72Bs by PizzaDemon@mastodon.online
2025-11-21T14:55:09Z
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@futurebird I just move
(DIR) Post #B0TU9fc2C73tGyMe4O by bk1e@mastodon.social
2025-11-21T15:37:28Z
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@futurebird My stove has a drawer underneath the oven and this drawer can be removed. So I guess I have no excuse for not cleaning underneath it. 😩
(DIR) Post #B0Tm0QTmt5fquJFTQ8 by NatureMC@mastodon.online
2025-11-21T18:57:27Z
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@futurebird I clean under a fridge only when I'm moving elsewhere. 😁 In German we have a word for these cuddly cute well-rounded textile/hairy stuff you often find behind furniture, especially sofas: Wollmäuse = dust bunnies (in German mice).They are social creatures, need not much food. An artist has a dust archive: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsches_Staubarchiv He has political dust as well as culinary dusts.So, why design if you can have art? 🤭 😎
(DIR) Post #B0UeuJkmTb8VmxIUF6 by jared@spookykitties.com
2025-11-22T05:12:28Z
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@futurebird wondered that myself after having lived with several Small Very Tall cats like Dazzle, and the most missed orange Mango, both of whom liked to knock every toy under the stove
(DIR) Post #B0Un7IeAhXSzkpuIeO by nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social
2025-11-22T06:44:36Z
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@futurebird I've considered actually putting something around the bottom. As far as I know that opening has no purpose for the stove operations. It's not like, say, a refrigerator where there needs to be airflow I don't think. I'm pretty sure it's just so they can be height adjustable to match any set of counters.I'd just put a line of duct tape at the bottom, but you might want something better looking.
(DIR) Post #B0VAJl6r09ywRzEVCS by elduvelle@neuromatch.social
2025-11-21T21:44:08Z
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@NatureMCIn French we call them "sheep" (moutons) 🐑 @futurebird
(DIR) Post #B0VAJmOGEvV4QGNuyG by NatureMC@mastodon.online
2025-11-22T11:01:00Z
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@elduvelle I would never kill them! @futurebird
(DIR) Post #B0VAJnLofV8fOyFTnc by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-11-22T11:04:36Z
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@NatureMC @elduvelle We don't 'kill' the wollmäuse! How could you suggest such a horrible thing. I am going to "re-home" each and every wollmäuse. We have a nice farm, it's in upstate New York, and there is a big barn there filled with beds and stoves and many wonderful places for the little wollmäusen to frolic and play.
(DIR) Post #B0VAOXaWhXaxxjONXs by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-11-22T11:05:30Z
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@NatureMC @elduvelle It is a very real farm that very much exists.
(DIR) Post #B0VAV9jvlcjU1cwg7s by JosteinSN@oslo.town
2025-11-21T22:22:49Z
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@ohmu @NatureMC @futurebird norwegian: hybelkanin, implying students are less tidy and the dust balls breed like r as rabbits https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hybelkanin
(DIR) Post #B0VAVAttS4IPcoc9IG by NatureMC@mastodon.online
2025-11-22T11:05:49Z
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@JosteinSN But they are fluffy!@ohmu @futurebird
(DIR) Post #B0VAVC5z0bYpKbHJmC by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-11-22T11:06:34Z
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@NatureMC @JosteinSN @ohmu ... and sticky... 😐
(DIR) Post #B0VB2jwKCJjbqykyUy by NatureMC@mastodon.online
2025-11-22T11:12:44Z
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@futurebird I believe you! 😎 If I ever come to the USA, I will stay for some days in that farm. That's pure living cultural heritage! 😁 :ablobcatheartsqueeze: @elduvelle
(DIR) Post #B0VBEV7B8sZlLkRR7w by Wendelin@ohai.social
2025-11-22T11:14:51Z
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@futurebird I would clean and then tape down heavy aluminum foil, to make cleaning easy in the future.
(DIR) Post #B0VEMLUR6w45g5khtY by oheso@ieji.de
2025-11-22T11:49:49Z
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@futurebird @NatureMC @elduvelle English is butchered German. ... and butchered French and butchered Dutch and ... 😉
(DIR) Post #B0VEWkegOyVcceVUum by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-11-22T11:51:48Z
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@oheso @NatureMC @elduvelle Just because something is true doesn't mean you need to bring it up all the time. OK?
(DIR) Post #B0VEdPiscsGPjGeBIO by oheso@ieji.de
2025-11-22T11:52:58Z
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@futurebird Apologies. Didn't mean to be in your face about it. I'll delete it.