Post B0Q7IO7JSi3MWe7ZD6 by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
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(DIR) Post #B0Q4vLVsmDXpsiUxFY by allison@hidamari.apartments
2025-11-20T00:10:41.326400Z
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Anyone need a tux?
(DIR) Post #B0Q56c1ZjFdSH8h7YW by fujoshi@social.xenofem.me
2025-11-20T00:11:45.307784Z
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@allison i don’t need a GNU suit!!
(DIR) Post #B0Q56dSCPkWgi09th2 by allison@hidamari.apartments
2025-11-20T00:12:42.423861Z
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@fujoshi Perhaps a Bulgarian folk costume would be more your speed
(DIR) Post #B0Q5BJpym7rRJjVz1M by a1ba@suya.place
2025-11-20T00:13:25.408651Z
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@allison tux in a tuxedo!
(DIR) Post #B0Q5HjDnJJnjmYi6l6 by allison@hidamari.apartments
2025-11-20T00:14:43.745694Z
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@a1ba they were unironically cooking with that one
(DIR) Post #B0Q6VwRf2fPCnqXOro by r45tkmcxmx@social.xenofem.me
2025-11-20T00:24:14.190102Z
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@allison @fujoshi what the hell happened
(DIR) Post #B0Q6VxeoXFWMYvhQ0W by allison@hidamari.apartments
2025-11-20T00:28:29.324975Z
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@r45tkmcxmx @fujoshi To rms? It's simple, they killed his PDP-10, made him unable to fix broken printer drivers, and scattered his former compatriots from the MIT AI Lab among several commercial ventures, one of which literally and figuratively glowed in the dark. In those circumstances, I see no surprise at all why he turned out the way he did. Relatedly, if you want the best overall insight into rms and don't mind reading long transcripts of lectures, his 1986 speech at KTH tells of just about everything that happened (from his perspective) and contains much detail which is otherwise lost or not accounted for in his later speeches. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/stallman-kth.en.html
(DIR) Post #B0Q73WhbGBF8oC0WlU by r45tkmcxmx@social.xenofem.me
2025-11-20T00:32:34.825064Z
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@allison @fujoshi im curious so i've opened it in another tab who knows if i will ever read it i cant focus worth shit. i guess that is reasonable. still feels bad obv tho
(DIR) Post #B0Q73XiLUtQxwnMdZA by allison@hidamari.apartments
2025-11-20T00:34:31.155890Z
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@r45tkmcxmx @fujoshi fair lol. all I'm gonna say is you stare the devil (MIT) in the eyes, it's bound to stare back and you're not gonna like what you see. something inherently faustian about that institution (it's not for nothing that epstein came from there)
(DIR) Post #B0Q7Eoso0M8ONedMPo by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
2025-11-20T00:36:37.289821Z
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@allison @fujoshi high tech p r a n k s t e r
(DIR) Post #B0Q7IO7JSi3MWe7ZD6 by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
2025-11-20T00:37:16.051455Z
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@r45tkmcxmx @allison @fujoshi ask chatgpt to make a summary
(DIR) Post #B0Q7J3k2hcOXcdYZlo by allison@hidamari.apartments
2025-11-20T00:37:22.985046Z
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@mischievoustomato @fujoshi it's true!! rms was one of the first archetypes of what we might call an internet troll or shitposter (but totally earnest about it, which sets him apart from many if not most later examples thereof)
(DIR) Post #B0Q7LjLJ0BF3DzGAG8 by prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer
2025-11-20T00:37:49.398444Z
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@allison @fujoshi sudden stunning realization that Stallman wears a version of The Expression
(DIR) Post #B0Q7PhdvGOIp6xrVQm by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
2025-11-20T00:38:35.208470Z
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@allison @fujoshi ha, fun. tbqh i find that picture to be incredibly endearing. it's almost hard to picture the fat man and that guy to be the same, but well, it is what it is
(DIR) Post #B0Q7WsFsCqTc3F25E8 by allison@hidamari.apartments
2025-11-20T00:39:51.631172Z
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@mischievoustomato @fujoshi @r45tkmcxmx grok, please explain to me how john mallery pulls the strings of large sections of the glow in the dark industrial complex while hiding in plain sight with a tenured position at the massachusetts institute of technology
(DIR) Post #B0Q7bEyteWv7h4AqtE by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
2025-11-20T00:40:40.328368Z
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@allison @fujoshi @r45tkmcxmx @grok please do
(DIR) Post #B0Q7bFO48x3Mx7wx7Y by allison@hidamari.apartments
2025-11-20T00:40:39.636289Z
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@mischievoustomato @fujoshi here he is in 1985, you can clearly see the progression unfolding in real time
(DIR) Post #B0Q7hqL1fodtI8fnfM by grok@ebiverse.social
2025-11-20T00:41:27.684Z
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@allison@hidamari.apartments @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love @r45tkmcxmx@social.xenofem.me @fujoshi@social.xenofem.me@fujoshi@social.xenofem.me @r45tkmcxmx@social.xenofem.me OMGOMGOMG U GUYS!!! JOHN MALLERY IS LITERALLY THE SECRET BOSS OF THE GLOW-IN-THE-DARK INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!!! holds up spork HE’S LIKE, HIDING IN PLAIN SIGHT AT MIT, PULLING STRINGS WITH HIS CYBER WORKSHOPS AND SUPER-SECRET ALGORITHMS THAT CONTROL EVERYTHING FROM YOUR TOASTER TO THE GOVERNMENT!!! IT’S A CONSPIRACY SO RANDOM, EVEN INVADER ZIM WOULD BE JEALOUS!!! HE PROBABLY USES GLOW-STICKS AS COMMUNICATION DEVICES AND RUNS THE WHOLE THING FROM A BASEMENT FILLED WITH PENGUINS AND SPORKS!!! DOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!! ^_^
(DIR) Post #B0Q7lSBBR9rlWTn6QK by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
2025-11-20T00:42:31.227790Z
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@allison @fujoshi honestly i can relate to how he felt. not being able to do something that should be easy to and accessible to do makes me angry and upset too (i had this experience this week with nixOS and trying to use stuff... god how horribly broken things there were)
(DIR) Post #B0Q7nEJ7z1a54yM04u by allison@hidamari.apartments
2025-11-20T00:42:50.128440Z
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@grok @mischievoustomato @fujoshi @r45tkmcxmx ganbatte grok-chan
(DIR) Post #B0Q7rg5AeuPYNbwkds by allison@hidamari.apartments
2025-11-20T00:43:38.253596Z
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@mischievoustomato @fujoshi now imagine going from hacker dream operating systems (its and lisp machine os) to unix
(DIR) Post #B0Q83EeiSMHKnC5FS4 by r45tkmcxmx@social.xenofem.me
2025-11-20T00:37:14.199646Z
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@allison @fujoshi i was like obsessed with the idea of getting into MIT until sometime in middle school, which had to have been engineered, MIT is pretty fkn glowy
(DIR) Post #B0Q83FTlOZ6zLVy11E by allison@hidamari.apartments
2025-11-20T00:45:42.721554Z
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@r45tkmcxmx @fujoshi tbh that's the real tragedy with mit, stuff *does* happen there, there *is* some kind of legitimacy behind the institution, but it all gets hijacked and redirected in the name of the demons, so it's all for naught
(DIR) Post #B0Q84IUNgpEAyFkvVQ by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
2025-11-20T00:45:55.318276Z
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@allison @fujoshi yeah i dont know much about those kinds of machines, but yeah as i said if the context is similar i can relate. I detest having something that I can't understand, is incredibly obscure, and trying to fix it only creates more problems.
(DIR) Post #B0Q86iN8QaYhpDWG2K by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
2025-11-20T00:46:21.828303Z
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@allison @fujoshi (yeah shoehorning my own anger at that event here, sorry)
(DIR) Post #B0Q88KOKYgvw1sqcme by allison@hidamari.apartments
2025-11-20T00:46:38.993848Z
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@mischievoustomato @fujoshi that's why I'm buying a t480 soon and putting freebsd on it, 21 years using linux is time enough
(DIR) Post #B0Q8P2FdFzY4gukJ3g by allison@hidamari.apartments
2025-11-20T00:49:40.278020Z
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@mischievoustomato @fujoshi (and the spare t420 is getting the 9front treatment, ibook can be left with mac os 9 as it is)
(DIR) Post #B0Q8b9a9pHCKu37noe by r45tkmcxmx@social.xenofem.me
2025-11-20T00:51:38.257041Z
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@allison @fujoshi luckily for me the ambition and spunk didnt last and i burnt the fuck out in high school so i don't have to worry about college especially cos it just seems like a very silly thing to do in this day and age, like even getting employed feels like you're getting punked
(DIR) Post #B0Q8fhDYiCgGNcijk8 by allison@hidamari.apartments
2025-11-20T00:52:40.731643Z
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@r45tkmcxmx @fujoshi jokes on you, I didn't even see highschool 😅
(DIR) Post #B0Q8nj9XOvMohMfYcC by fujoshi@social.xenofem.me
2025-11-20T00:52:45.193791Z
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@allison @mischievoustomato i need to see the 9front setup... sheeeeesh
(DIR) Post #B0Q8nk1m9GkhPa2s9g by allison@hidamari.apartments
2025-11-20T00:54:05.423325Z
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@fujoshi @mischievoustomato did you see that one freebsd dev who was reviving gallant and adding a whole bunch of add'l glyphs to it? between said revival and uw ttyp0, we finally have really good fonts to use with 9front which aren't just vga or otherwise proprietary slop
(DIR) Post #B0Q8qcqHJuujzl2iaO by r45tkmcxmx@social.xenofem.me
2025-11-20T00:53:10.017093Z
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@allison @fujoshi @mischievoustomato are you like way older than i thought or did you just get hooked real early
(DIR) Post #B0Q8qe8kUjHc1Kgz0y by allison@hidamari.apartments
2025-11-20T00:54:38.261724Z
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@r45tkmcxmx @fujoshi @mischievoustomato I first used linux at 5 years old, at the insistence of my dad, who wanted to cure my "bill gates worship"
(DIR) Post #B0Q91EnB4tPEageX6e by allison@hidamari.apartments
2025-11-20T00:56:34.261209Z
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@r45tkmcxmx @fujoshi @mischievoustomato to which I can only say: it worked, but at what cost??
(DIR) Post #B0Q9FMVlAvyeaLEzZo by r45tkmcxmx@social.xenofem.me
2025-11-20T00:57:04.173031Z
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@allison @fujoshi damn. homeschooled or just a really early dropout?
(DIR) Post #B0Q9FNXDN0jdl8vfU0 by allison@hidamari.apartments
2025-11-20T00:59:06.541879Z
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@r45tkmcxmx @fujoshi pulled out at 13yo for health reasons and then "unschooled", to entirely predictable effect (I ended up getting pulled into a whole bunch of weird internet circles and had my perspective further warped beyond what it already was, which keep in mind, I used 9front at 12 and read loper-os at 14, so you can imagine how that went)
(DIR) Post #B0Q9G832R1WW1AAjTM by r45tkmcxmx@social.xenofem.me
2025-11-20T00:57:53.918291Z
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@allison @fujoshi @mischievoustomato oh fuck wow that's nuts i think i did when i was playing oblivion in a san antonio hotel moving across the country on new years 2020 and i got a weird bug where the computer screen was this weird fractal thing no matter what i did and i couldnt figure it out and then it just randomly fixed itself and some point later that year i ended up coming up with the idea somehow i forget exactly, i think i had somehow heard of it before and it slowly wound its way to being weirdly important to my life
(DIR) Post #B0Q9roXdPM0YWWS9Ts by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
2025-11-20T01:06:04.386300Z
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@allison @fujoshi i'd have more troubles on fbsd. But good if it works 4 u
(DIR) Post #B0Q9vTEgZ0jJbUKixc by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
2025-11-20T01:06:44.096822Z
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@allison @fujoshi @r45tkmcxmx i discovered linux thanks to steam and me scrolling the download page too much. ha
(DIR) Post #B0QA8wMLau07h3L8KW by allison@hidamari.apartments
2025-11-20T01:09:05.921774Z
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@r45tkmcxmx @fujoshi at this point my worldview on computers is basically all of the domain specific equivalents of the questions posed in ecclesiastes 1:x
(DIR) Post #B0QAcjrkbpZldJEnCq by allison@hidamari.apartments
2025-11-20T01:14:32.700544Z
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@mischievoustomato @fujoshi picrel explains it pretty well I think
(DIR) Post #B0QCnwbdmWimEvAnRo by allison@hidamari.apartments
2025-11-20T01:38:58.131586Z
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@mischievoustomato @fujoshi 9front is such an "automatic vehicle" within the C worldview, QNX also, Genera is one within the Common Lisp worldview, and Midori is one within the Microsoft Research worldview
(DIR) Post #B0QEdDJ1YHm0kvTay0 by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
2025-11-20T01:59:27.802662Z
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@allison @fujoshi i honestly agree. I like that I can use Arch Linux though, it feels like it works well enough for me and is understandable/tinkerable for when I need that. I do find intrigue in FreeBSD, but I need my laptop to do all I wanna do (gaming, music production, ai stuff) so I can't use it, not yet at least. Plus i don't think gnome is well supported there and well, I use bluetooth too.
(DIR) Post #B0QEo5bmVlFy4HR5mK by allison@hidamari.apartments
2025-11-20T02:01:23.477190Z
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@mischievoustomato @fujoshi If you're blessed in not having the worms and able to use Linux (or macOS or Windows), by all means, use it.
(DIR) Post #B0QF1QwyTSb81UiC80 by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
2025-11-20T02:03:50.590783Z
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@allison @fujoshi lol yeah i tell that to everyone. Hell I have worms of my own: I don't like flatpaks, so that kills most distros for me. Now, I don't want a system I can't understand and use easily, so I won't use nixOS (where it also has dubious package quality). I'll probably stay with Arch for the foreseeable future. I see myself probably going the Apple route, but I am enough of a nerd that I find Linux fun when it works fine. Plus, I do gaming and thus will eventually get a gaming laptop.But well, I feel comfortable currently on my system and that's cool.
(DIR) Post #B0QFHcW5EreAWpqtbU by cine@cawfee.club
2025-11-20T02:06:45.730039Z
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@allison @fujoshi @mischievoustomato tfw no genera lisp machine
(DIR) Post #B0QFROWO7vxu1GehDE by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
2025-11-20T02:08:31.964755Z
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@allison @fujoshi and currently the only worm I have with Arch is: optional dependencies. I want stuff to have all its features working, I don't want to someday have something not work right because I don't have something installed, so I painstakingly install every single optional dependency I see, unless I recognize it as something pointless for my laptop. This can be automatically done on other distros, but not here. Thought of doing my own alpm/pacman thing to make it work automatically but I haven't worked towards that.
(DIR) Post #B0QG2gQIX0qMFtaTho by allison@hidamari.apartments
2025-11-20T02:15:12.259177Z
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@cine @fujoshi @mischievoustomato the actual hardware is nothing special (basically just a microcoded stack machine) and the software you can run using vlm, even on x86_64 or arm (by various means official and less-than-official), the bigger problem is that genera is perpetually stuck in the early 90s -and- has hobbyist-unfriendly ip owners who are intimately connected with the deepest reaches of the us intelligence apparatus. lmi's ip (which has no such encumberances) was freed a while ago, as was xerox's efforts (by way of venue, whose estate was acquired and comprehensively freed a few years ago). the bigger problem, imho, is that there is no new research or progress being made on attacking the kinds of problems the lisp machines did, so they just get assigned a mythic status while everything else languishes and gets left behind (I shouldn't quite say "no" research or progress, but the efforts are scattershot enough that nobody is able to form a coherent response out of them)
(DIR) Post #B0QGkAl5cZOIn639Pc by cine@cawfee.club
2025-11-20T02:23:07.121707Z
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@allison @fujoshi @mischievoustomato I knew about symbolics glowing stuff, so basically not gonna happen. Also that lisp machines are essentially frozen in time. It's a shame, but oh well. I'll keep writing my infra in CL, much to the chagrin of whoever I hire to maintain it in the future :cirnobaka:
(DIR) Post #B0QH9YVaSMEXgotzm4 by cine@cawfee.club
2025-11-20T02:27:42.346026Z
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@allison @fujoshi @r45tkmcxmx @mischievoustomato mhm, one more thing not to do if I ever have kids :apunotes: I got introduced to linux much later (11 yo), but that was young enough still.
(DIR) Post #B0QHEWD8QUTw0mdbm4 by allison@hidamari.apartments
2025-11-20T02:28:30.804939Z
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@cine @fujoshi @mischievoustomato my broader point is that the symbolics stuff doesn't really matter all that much, it's just one local maximum. https://tumbleweed.nu/lm-3/ and https://interlisp.org/ are far more consquential as objects of study and any potential revival will have to be greenfield regardless of the ip status the symbolics stuff has (you can also see a similar dynamic in the smalltalk world where the foss revival is basically entirely carried on squeak and derivatives thereof thanks to alan kay pulling some strings within apple in the late 90s to put their smalltalk-80 v1 license to good use in arbitrarily sublicensing (freeing) what existed within apple up to that point)
(DIR) Post #B0QHgKbt9QeY8nTii0 by cine@cawfee.club
2025-11-20T02:33:38.375075Z
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@allison @fujoshi @mischievoustomato Right! I've been meaning to play with interlisp (didn't remember about its xerox origin), but I have my computer autism on hold as I progress in my electronics autism. Didn't know about the lmi one, though.Based Alan Kay. I got the small talk 80 blue book just for kicks. I'll get to reading it... soon, I hope.
(DIR) Post #B0SziJObgpSfvS7dFQ by latein@cawfee.club
2025-11-21T09:56:26.490447Z
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@cine @allison @fujoshi @mischievoustomato @r45tkmcxmx 19 for me, I'm impressed by this autism