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(DIR) Post #B0Kk6C3woOOmNEHluy by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-11-17T10:23:45Z
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On thing that drives me nuts about interior design advice is it doesn't start from the non-negotiables often enough. For example I don't think I'm that strange or remarkable for owning a about 800 books. I know a lot of people with more. But if you look for design ideas for books it's not like "here is where you can put all those books" it's more like "get these fake books for this look" --or it's "design a home library." my brother in Christ WHERE.
(DIR) Post #B0KkPV54KLX2rL14Lo by jadp@mastodon.social
2025-11-17T10:27:10Z
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@futurebird Where? Everywhere! They are books; they belong everywhere. Often on top of other books, crammed between the tops of those books and the bottom of the shelf above and/or ceiling 🤔
(DIR) Post #B0KkVLT0z3mSmR0Ivw by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-11-17T10:28:17Z
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With some digging I found some good "book advice" 1. Most ready-made book shelves are too dinky and small. If you have books you need floor to ceiling shelves. Replace short bookshelves.2. Never fill the shelf all the way. This means you need more shelves AND bookends, but it makes everything look less congested and it worth it.3. Get deep enough shelves so you can do the spines in a line like the library. 4. Your large format books need a home. A coffee table with two levels can help.
(DIR) Post #B0KkWJXLe4tj5FUc1A by GustavinoBevilacqua@mastodon.cisti.org
2025-11-17T10:28:20Z
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@futurebird Another of those cases where, as I've told before, you ask for a glass of water and you get a bowl of fish soup because "it's 85% water!".I solved the books problem keeping them in boxes below the bed, but it's not optimal.
(DIR) Post #B0KkYhM83drXXJNk4u by Bumblefish@mastodon.scot
2025-11-17T10:28:52Z
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@futurebird IN YOUR KITCHEN! Tell me you need all that space for food. Tuh. Make a coffee table from crates & fill with books. Reduce room by 1foot along one wall & build DIY shelving unit.
(DIR) Post #B0KkkqHYhCcshC2Dzs by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-11-17T10:31:05Z
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Consider that if your shelves are not all packed when you want to buy another book no one can say "but where will you put it?"You see? This is a good one.
(DIR) Post #B0Kl6DrAF5OntJsrx2 by mensrea@freeradical.zone
2025-11-17T10:34:55Z
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@futurebird it's really quite simple. you line all your walls with floor to ceiling shelves and when they're full you know it's time to move to a bigger place
(DIR) Post #B0KlVqZjQKbvDOwst6 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-11-17T10:39:35Z
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And here is my most controversial one:Sort your books by SIZE first. The size dictates the shelf height and one tall book can waste a lot of space. (not controversial)Next by subject. Have the same topic, or author, or genre on the same shelf. (not controversial)Last, on each shelf sort them by color. It will make the shelf look less chaotic. People get mad about this since it's "looks over function" but if you have a subject shelf you'll be able to find your books.
(DIR) Post #B0KleEYIA8QxtWH4q0 by Uair@autistics.life
2025-11-17T10:41:03Z
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@futurebird I adore the fact my social media has people with so many books they develop a formal structure to store and display them.
(DIR) Post #B0KlezkefzFYHTQ78K by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-11-17T10:41:05Z
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@mensrea It can be hard to understand that getting rid of short shelves to make space for full-sized ones is worth it. Or that was hard for me. I kept thinking "but I need more shelves" Not like this. This little thing is too tiny.
(DIR) Post #B0KljgThlHb9xAjBc8 by clarablackink@writing.exchange
2025-11-17T10:42:03Z
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@futurebird You need to find designers who embrace maximalism. They are, imo, the only ones who can fathom large book collections.I just stuff my books into limited book shelves and put lots of random pieces on display in front of said books (pictures, travel knick knacks, rocks and empty glass honey bottles with dried flowers). It is very maximalist but there's some design to it.Bonus points, I use museum wax to anchor knick knacks because cats.
(DIR) Post #B0KmA8hvQbQt2BzhT6 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-11-17T10:46:52Z
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At least for me the color sorting makes it easier to find the book I'm looking for. I know some people will do a subject shelf sorted by author, or alphabetically, or subtopic... But, if I'm looking at "discrete math books" I won't remember the title. I remember "it was in the light blue one" -- so color helps. And from across the room it looks a lot less jumbled. You also notices how different subjects have different color pallets. Which is neat.
(DIR) Post #B0KmBG5jSaTUE0fBei by mensrea@freeradical.zone
2025-11-17T10:46:52Z
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@futurebird cube shelving is a good way to go. you get all that shelf space but it's very flexible. trying to get the significant other to see this wisdom
(DIR) Post #B0KmDGDpwedVD3PPVI by clarablackink@writing.exchange
2025-11-17T10:47:24Z
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@futurebird On board with all but the last one. I think color sorting of objects is a very specific personality quirk. Not a bad one but I think there are humans who do it and ones that don't.Subject and size sorting is the only sane way to organize a bookshelf if you're a reader. I also do a weird thing within a genre so my books on primates all cluster together & transition into books specifically on the histories of various drugs which transitions into books on magic through a cultural lens
(DIR) Post #B0KmN2FCllnykmi3lo by eco_amandine@mastodon.cr
2025-11-17T10:49:07Z
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@futurebird your controversial take (size) is kind of cursed but makes sense if you have a bookshelf with different measures and in terms of balance. I prefer to put the heavier (bigger) books in the lower parts of the bookshelves.
(DIR) Post #B0Kn7iXLrHsvF7SPqK by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-11-17T10:57:34Z
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@geckzilla Most closet shelves are not sturdy enough to hold books. I have considered the concept of having a "book closet" then I could put most of the books in there and close the door for a more minimalist feeling. But I like to look at the shelf and scan the titles while I'm working. I would end up sitting in the damn closet so it wouldn't work.
(DIR) Post #B0KnKoNVS6UB7j61EO by slowtiger@berlin.social
2025-11-17T10:59:56Z
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@futurebirdThe most important part is accessibility of your books. I finally ordered a small stepladder so I can reach the top shelves again. And I need to shift some books to other shelves which right now are hidden or buried behind other stuff on the floor.
(DIR) Post #B0KnMvSK6nB1ebMDQW by jbenjamint@social.vivaldi.net
2025-11-17T11:00:14Z
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@futurebird 💯So i keep organising our coat rack like this - but get told off for doing it. Everyone else seems to think it's just acceptable to hang a coat anywhere!
(DIR) Post #B0KnV8tu0MfzfXAva4 by NatureMC@mastodon.online
2025-11-17T11:01:40Z
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@futurebird I never thought of design with my floor-to-nearly ceiling (2.85 m) Swedish furniture company system. It's a good wall insulation. 😁
(DIR) Post #B0KnVbHcTmHjhCUGR6 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-11-17T11:01:57Z
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@jbenjamint I love this!It's just a little moment of joy when normally seeing a bunch of coats and ski gear in a pile would make me sad.
(DIR) Post #B0KnaTv5HfIQJ3H2sS by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-11-17T11:02:50Z
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@NatureMC You need twice as many bookshelves. I made a "book wall" to divide my living room since we ran out of walls. You might need to do that.
(DIR) Post #B0Kng4GJahrkT5rt0S by NatureMC@mastodon.online
2025-11-17T11:03:49Z
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@futurebird people sorting by size have never read many books and having to refind them. 🤭
(DIR) Post #B0KnrIlE1g8scVgOoa by Photo55@mastodon.social
2025-11-17T11:05:47Z
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@futurebird Accession order, with an index.
(DIR) Post #B0Knx0dKKuAI8Wi5eS by UkeleleEric@mstdn.social
2025-11-17T11:06:51Z
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@futurebird Interior design is all about people who have the time and money to make all sorts of changes which ordinary people can't do. When on a limited budget, in a limited budget house, space is at a premium, and most 'spacesaving' ideas either cost too much or don't work.
(DIR) Post #B0KnxcMI4h7H8h21NA by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-11-17T11:06:57Z
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@mensrea Do you mean the stack-able ones? I've found that with the book collection I have I really just need very tall shelves, and the cubes can't stack high enough. But there are also some cube systems that can go higher I think.
(DIR) Post #B0Ko6uJMhD1dQQ5omW by mothninja@beige.party
2025-11-17T11:08:39Z
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@futurebird YES THIS. There is a small chance that we might be able to move relatively soon, and almost all my current calculations involve how many floor to ceiling bookshelves (and also maybe one of those sliding ladder things which I have always dreamed of 😍) could possibly be squeezed in
(DIR) Post #B0Ko7XOhNJSseFt80e by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-11-17T11:08:42Z
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@UkeleleEric I don't know if I agree that interior design isn't for everyone. Some of the best most inviting spaces have been designed and curated by people with no budget. It's like art, it's for everyone and money can't really make up for taste and creativity. It's also WORK and takes time to make a space better, more functional, good looking, someone needs to care about it.
(DIR) Post #B0KoD4DCnZ4lrw9IDQ by mothninja@beige.party
2025-11-17T11:09:43Z
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@futurebird @NatureMC this is a great idea
(DIR) Post #B0KoFV5dpzkNoClstE by etchedpixels@mastodon.social
2025-11-17T11:10:11Z
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@futurebird amusingly books are also excellent for insulation when you have a historic building Not allowed to add internal wall insulation but shelves solid packed with books, and books shoved in the gaps on top of the rows is just fine !
(DIR) Post #B0KoK1RdU9iBJVDP2u by clarablackink@writing.exchange
2025-11-17T11:11:02Z
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@futurebird @jbenjamint Despite not being a color sorter for objects (apart from art supplies) I think it looks beautiful.I just personally don't think like that for finding said objects. My brain is more like a word map, probably the early writing/reading emphasis played a role.So, personally wouldn't do this but I really admire seeing it when people do. Beautiful but a little confusing.
(DIR) Post #B0KoLOtDnrHcJfm8LQ by NatureMC@mastodon.online
2025-11-17T11:10:32Z
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@eco_amandine Tip: most high shelves can be achored in the wall. @futurebird
(DIR) Post #B0KoLQQE6dHJ4KE0Qa by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-11-17T11:11:18Z
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@NatureMC @eco_amandine They need to be. Books are heavy and it might sound romantic to die being crushed by you book collection but it is NOT cute.
(DIR) Post #B0KobnJal44AhfvXVI by crinolinerobot@beige.party
2025-11-17T11:14:13Z
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@futurebird Among the magazines I subedit are some interiors titles.Nothing is weirder than people who turn their books so the spines are towards the back so they won't spoil 'the look'. How do they find the book they want? Do they only have a dozen or so? Do they have incredible memories for placements? It's just *wrong*.
(DIR) Post #B0Kofg2vj0w7Jmz8Ua by Ailbhe@mendeddrum.org
2025-11-17T11:14:54Z
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@futurebird @geckzilla I have roller blinds to pull down in front of the shelves when I want it to feel clearer.
(DIR) Post #B0KojHnPpRchGXRuPQ by va2lam@mastodon.nz
2025-11-17T11:15:35Z
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@futurebird aren't all math books yellow? (Actually I don't own any of the Springer yellow books).I do own some bookshelves that I got made to measure with specific shelf heights though.
(DIR) Post #B0KoljEwlOMoxeUWmm by bradr@infosec.exchange
2025-11-17T11:16:01Z
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@futurebird @geckzilla This is as minimalist as I will allow.
(DIR) Post #B0KomjhSXU0ug2JAps by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-11-17T11:16:16Z
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@crinolinerobot That's not a method to store books you use. It's decorative. If I put my books that way all of my husband's books would look WORSE since there are so many post-it notes and tabs sticking out. And any book I've taken to school (most of them) have my last name written on the spine in big black letters if it's a textbook so no one would take it. I don't want to see that.
(DIR) Post #B0Konk5MahySA7y8hc by SnowyCA@social.vivaldi.net
2025-11-17T11:16:17Z
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@futurebird Because of having to downsize I had to donate most of my book collection, but throughout the years I never sorted my books. Once I reused a book, I put it back in the same spot on the appropriate bookcase, and I remembered where each book was on each shelf. I thought most people did the same.
(DIR) Post #B0KooXxd9jUuqcjfai by beecycling@wandering.shop
2025-11-17T11:16:30Z
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@futurebird Great point about colour. I will recall a book's cover and spine long after I've forgotten everything about the contents of the book. (One reason I'm dead fussy about having the correct edition selected for my reads on The Storygraph.)And doing at least some sorting by size in an inevitability. I'm at around 500 books and try to keep from bringing in too many more, because I'm supposed to be a minimalist! And I'm close to space limit bookshelf wise.
(DIR) Post #B0KopPyCLq2OM1PsyO by TomSwirly@toot.community
2025-11-17T11:16:36Z
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@futurebird We moved to Europe with 85 boxes of books.We managed to make it work though. Somehow.
(DIR) Post #B0KosxuEdNaUTRFpL6 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-11-17T11:17:22Z
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@va2lam Math books are my most colorful books and each subject has a full spectrum of colors. But my books on ants are all either white green or black for some reason.
(DIR) Post #B0KowIZqEhGpS8Ixn6 by KatS@chaosfem.tw
2025-11-17T11:17:55Z
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@futurebird "Bookshelf scaping" and "how to fill up all that space in your bookshelves."The kind of facepalm that risks concussion.
(DIR) Post #B0Kp4ItUwPhykjJfI8 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-11-17T11:19:26Z
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@KatS I'm envious of people who have shelves and don't know how to fill them. I'm over here planning to put extra shelving above the door.
(DIR) Post #B0Kp5BQKCa3JsB5dxI by Colman@mastodon.ie
2025-11-17T11:19:27Z
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@futurebird nope. Cluster by subject/author, then by size. That way you know roughly which room/bookshelf to start your search.Gardening is on the bottom half of one of two bookcases in the front room, while photography is in the top half. Martial arts is mostly on the narrow one beside that. Italian cooking is mostly on the second one on the outside of the kitchen island. Dance technique in the top of the larger one in the bedroom. Pets/animals and graphic novels in the hallway bookshelf.
(DIR) Post #B0KpFFmYqqbqHqIDFQ by mensrea@freeradical.zone
2025-11-17T11:21:21Z
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@futurebird you can get floor to ceiling cube systems. the nice thing about them is you can also display on them
(DIR) Post #B0KpHULlewli2zpHHc by stveje@mstdn.social
2025-11-17T11:21:47Z
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@futurebird But ... I love a congested bookshelf!I recently got several new bookcases, which means I have way more shelf space than I have books. I'm working on fixing that, of course, but for now it looks so empty! I miss having my shelves absolutely packed with books with no space for new ones.
(DIR) Post #B0Kpd90bgcpSEHFqFs by NatureMC@mastodon.online
2025-11-17T11:25:41Z
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@futurebird That's a good idea, if the room is big enough. My books wander ... my only bookless room is the bathroom because of humidity.
(DIR) Post #B0KpnxcMNX885O4S7U by Colman@mastodon.ie
2025-11-17T11:27:40Z
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@futurebird if they're deep enough they also provide space in front of the books for lego models, semi-ornamental tea pots, martial art weapons, skulls and so on. With suitable lighting on the shelves they also become beacons of warmth and knowledge. 🙂
(DIR) Post #B0Kq2yudqXwCRgmhN2 by NatureMC@mastodon.online
2025-11-17T11:30:23Z
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@futurebird 🤣 "She was writing books and left us to go home to book hell." @eco_amandine
(DIR) Post #B0Kq7SK4RTrooloPxo by jwcph@helvede.net
2025-11-17T11:31:10Z
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@futurebird @UkeleleEric I worked in the field for many years & I always hated design without function - one job was in a high-end interior shop where the customers were making scenes, rather than rooms to actually live in & it was never really me; I've seen far cooler spaces you'd actually want to be in, achieved with almost no budget (I once did lighting & furniture for an entire venue for like 500$) 😊
(DIR) Post #B0Kqpqf9J9uz34q6tM by nicholas@aklp.club
2025-11-17T11:39:14.201085Z
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I am in the planning stages of a project to put in floor to ceiling built-in shelving across the back wall of my office. I can't wait.
(DIR) Post #B0Kr9wHU83LAGVLnzk by noodlemaz@med-mastodon.com
2025-11-17T11:42:49Z
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@futurebird hi from our flat that's (especially by US standards, small) almost entirely curved walls 🙃
(DIR) Post #B0KrCWVsODvBDTJYdk by sinvega@mas.to
2025-11-17T11:43:15Z
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@futurebird dewey decimal is a smart and effective system for a public library of unfamiliar objects. Unfamiliar things being organised with that kind of technical logic is Good.But stuff in your home is stuff you relate to differently. We're not even consciously aware of how we recognise things (or people) sometimes, but it's rarely "ah yes, my favourite item is size 3.2 and wooden, therefore it will be in category C, row 1".You gotta vibe that stuff. Even without adhd.
(DIR) Post #B0KrqIza4yw6riB6J6 by btuftin@social.coop
2025-11-17T11:50:27Z
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@futurebird Sorting by physical book properties reduces my abilityv to find things quickly. I do rough grouping by height to allow for some "average book height" shelves, but I mentally have a vague idea of where a book is, and it's easier to find it with "it's tall and blue and over there somewhere" if "over there somewhere" isn't also "where all the tall blue books are". And though I sort my fiction by author, after grouping it by "favorites go on the best shelf", non-fiction goes wherever.
(DIR) Post #B0KtqZ88HLMIpBQiDg by WTL@mastodon.social
2025-11-17T12:12:56Z
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@futurebird For one book to come in, one must go out. 🧐
(DIR) Post #B0KvwbjRiZVOXWtLfM by IngaLovinde@embracing.space
2025-11-17T12:36:21Z
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@futurebird > Get deep enough shelves so you can do the spines in a line like the library. I'm so disappointed in this advice. Shelves should be deep enough to fit two, or maybe even three, rows of books.
(DIR) Post #B0KxM8byi39zhw8Vyy by serinde@medievalist.masto.host
2025-11-17T12:52:09Z
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@NatureMC @futurebird This method is doubly useful if you are living in a studio apartment, as it also lets you simulate having separate rooms, kinda.
(DIR) Post #B0KyhCICJpNT9wUR9M by kimlockhartga@beige.party
2025-11-17T13:07:16Z
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@futurebird I hear this!
(DIR) Post #B0Kz54deQZvcN3uT44 by DaleOh@beige.party
2025-11-17T13:11:34Z
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@futurebird When we moved back to the states, we bought a smaller house with mediocre storage. The book issue solved itself organically -- we gave the kids their books, whether they wanted them or not. The used bookstore got the books we no longer wanted (side effect: more books from the used bookstore), the fiction gravitated to two upstairs bookshelves, cookbooks and music books downstairs where they get used, and everything else stuffed in the nooks and crannies. This seems to work. It looks nice and we know where they are.
(DIR) Post #B0KzhSr4q6p2TuUnQ0 by tkalvas@mastodontti.fi
2025-11-17T13:18:30Z
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@futurebird @NatureMC @eco_amandine When you submit to physics and anchor your shelves, you get the additional benefit of being able to put the shelves for oversize books at the top, where it does not matter so much that those shelves take more space out of the room. (Yes, I had to build my own.)
(DIR) Post #B0L10g9bicLzBQtBpo by rothko@beige.party
2025-11-17T13:33:07Z
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@futurebird i had a local guy build two bookcases 4' wide by 6' high for this weird narrow room. they're great but i completely filled them with all the books i have already. i was kinda worried they might not be big enough, in fact. and i got rid of SOOOO MANY books before we moved -- i took *carloads* of books to half-price books. used have probably twice as many before...
(DIR) Post #B0LCNpq6yOPxNY0xIu by JamesPadraicR@mastodon.social
2025-11-17T15:40:37Z
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@futurebird Since others are sharing, and I’m no one to give advice, here’s my shelfie. Easier to go to the ceiling in a finished basement. I also do some makery stuff in hereFWIW I’ve stopped buying books at the rate I was, mainly realized that I have more than I will ever be able to read, and more keep coming out that get priority.Also there are three more bookcases to the left full of non-fiction and Judaica. And one more guitar to the right. Replacing one ‘special interest’ with another?
(DIR) Post #B0LDAbK5jXc2XwI5EO by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-11-17T15:49:27Z
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@dasgrueneblatt You might be better off putting a floor to ceiling shelf behind the couch, then use the blocked shelves for hidden storage of rarely used items.To anchor a floating shelf, strong enough for books it will need to be attached to the joists in your wall even then it can introduce a lot of strain.
(DIR) Post #B0LdNTjKFIC27oZZNw by OskarImKeller@fnordon.de
2025-11-17T20:43:05Z
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@futurebird I remember the story of a couple with many books moving together into an apartment with limited room for shelf space. They prepared by making a database of all their books, including the measurements of each one, to help plan the optimal distribution within the shelves and to be able to find them again in their "optimal utilization of available space" challenge.
(DIR) Post #B0LeqUI9KuQWDeG2yG by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-11-17T20:59:36Z
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@OskarImKeller When we got married it was fun finding the books we had two of. There were a lot. We put a book plate in them and gave them as wedding favors.
(DIR) Post #B0LfiXsWDXckyq2uOW by mhthaung@mastodon.scot
2025-11-17T21:09:19Z
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@futurebird And don't forget books are heavy! I had wall-mounted bookshelves (3-4 shelves, no taller than me) collapse. Had to ease 150 kg of books away from my fragile equipment while the poor workman held the remainder up... 😱
(DIR) Post #B0Lgx9AoS51weo84jg by rlcw@ecoevo.social
2025-11-17T21:23:10Z
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@futurebirdThere is indeed a distinct lack in archival and rotation shelving in interior design. IKEA is failing us. Mainstream minimalism is terrorising the physical bibliophiles!
(DIR) Post #B0LjA4JW1z0VG4UOMy by LisaMaesie@nutmeg.social
2025-11-17T16:38:50Z
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@futurebird I want something like this but for books. Like, even if the doors are only deep enough for paperbacks, and the bigger books go in the main shelves, that’d be great.
(DIR) Post #B0LjHYqAvopfxjL1hA by OskarImKeller@fnordon.de
2025-11-17T21:49:16Z
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@futurebird What a lovely give-away.
(DIR) Post #B0LksYzzPDm77d8XA0 by Bongolian@mstdn.social
2025-11-17T22:07:06Z
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@futurebird Before Ikea invaded the US, there used to be local bookshelf builders in some college towns. It was even possible to buy rattan bookshelves from the Philippines at one time from Cost Plus. Ikea particleboard bookshelves can collapse under book packing stress over time, whereas solid wood will bend if the the books are exceptionally heavy and the bookshelf is wide and not supported in the middle.
(DIR) Post #B0LpVf5n5Erd8CkVSi by wil@beige.party
2025-11-17T22:59:01Z
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@futurebird That would be my mom. Totally broke but always found a way to make her space more livable. @UkeleleEric
(DIR) Post #B0MIBkhPQREDOpCfsu by Su_G@aus.social
2025-11-18T04:20:21Z
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@futurebird Incredibly good advice on books & book shelves in home decorating & thank you very much for it. Also lots more (plus some great pics) in the responses! 😁
(DIR) Post #B0MannUFJ83EDyKydU by simon_brooke@mastodon.scot
2025-11-18T07:48:58Z
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@futurebird and, furthemore, the problem is not "where can I store all these books" so much as "where can I store all these books (which are of varying sizes) in such a way that I can always retrieve the one I need at a particular moment with the least searching? "