Post B0FUDqBbShvfmhgvfE by sun@shitposter.world
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(DIR) Post #B0ETBSlxFShfTd2LsO by stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe
2025-11-14T09:21:56Z
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This Isn't a BattleAfter reading a post describing the FreeBSD community as 'toxic', I share a different perspective. This isn't a battle. It's a reflection on coexistence, the original Open Source spirit, and the quiet richness of taking a different path.https://my-notes.dragas.net/2025/11/14/this-isnt-a-battle/#MyNotes #IT #SysAdmin #FreeBSD #NetBSD #OpenBSD #Linux #OpenSource
(DIR) Post #B0ETBUDHtKA3wgph7Q by h4890@liberdon.com
2025-11-14T09:45:58Z
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@stefano Interesting. It is my experience, following from the side lines, that anyone remitely conservative or christian, is aggressively being hated upon and hounded in many open source communities. I think perhaps only OpenBSD and most likely Omarchy are two communities where these groups are allowed to be themselves.
(DIR) Post #B0Efhnw9IHdzpkzdnk by tfb@functional.cafe
2025-11-14T12:06:02Z
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@stefano They're calling Unix users "tech boomers" and apparently it's the BSD communities that are the toxic ones?!?!
(DIR) Post #B0Efr3ENnfhDsEvnH6 by phnt@fluffytail.org
2025-11-14T12:07:58.832432Z
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@tfb @stefanohere-s_a_nickel_unix_user.png
(DIR) Post #B0Ej7H16c0w57r9EI4 by vermaden@mastodon.social
2025-11-14T12:44:05Z
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@stefano My part from Quare FreeBSD about FreeBSD Community below.
(DIR) Post #B0EmYEQodFUcmxigts by jae@darkdork.dev
2025-11-14T13:23:00.588425Z
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@phnt @tfb @stefano no scruffy beard or suspenders here. i'm wearing diesel shoes, black t-shirt, baseball cap, and and i'm drinking coffee from a mysterious region in south america. bsd community i've had zero issues with. they are pretty fun and pragmatic people. meanwhile when i was using linux regularly it's like a battle of sparta vs persia via splitting-hair war.
(DIR) Post #B0EmjgUEfE68zAmRns by peteorrall@mastodon.bsd.cafe
2025-11-14T13:24:56Z
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@stefano Great post! I've been using #Linux #FreeBSD for about two decades and want to share my experiences. For context, Linux became my daily driver and I dabbled in FreeBSD on the side.As a newcomer to both the #technology and #culture of #Linux and the BSDs, *back then* there was more toxicity. And by toxicity I mean abrasive and unhelpful responses ("RTFM!") or some kind of "l337" attitudes in various mailing lists and forums. This, of course, was before YouTube and Reddit, where the former mediums were more prevalent.Some Linux distros were friendlier than others. In those days, the #Debian mailing lists and forums were a rough place for newcomers and it drove a lot of people away. I left the forums because of that. I rarely post to the mailing lists but for other reasons.At some point, there was considerable effort to improve the etiquette in said mediums, particularly the mailing lists. Sure, some fiery disagreements can take place but overall people are friendly and welcoming.FreeBSD, on the other hand, has been a more positive experience. Yes, there are people who are vocal about their contempt for Linux, but they aren't disrespectful to other people.Having witnessed both communities grow and change over the years, there's definitely less toxicity and FreeBSD is still a more welcoming community.
(DIR) Post #B0FS0RLeIX7l4tsA5Y by passthejoe@ruby.social
2025-11-14T21:06:56Z
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@stefano The BSD communities in the Fediverse are extremely welcoming and helpful. That's one of the perks I've found when running OpenBSD and FreeBSD (and reading about NetBSD) -- pretty much everybody is there to support each other.
(DIR) Post #B0FTIGn4OEfRV5lRQG by sun@shitposter.world
2025-11-14T21:21:56.637847Z
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@jae @phnt @tfb @stefano the "averse to change" comment was like a dog whistle to me. the person probably came into a community area and had "suggestions" backed by nothing and didn't like being (politely) ignored. I've seen it before.
(DIR) Post #B0FTWjGTJuZdrkPZeC by Nudhul@shitposter.world
2025-11-14T21:24:34.350936Z
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@sun @jae @phnt @stefano @tfb many such cases of tourists wanting to change things they only discovered yesterday
(DIR) Post #B0FTpH8m6pj88tefJI by jae@darkdork.dev
2025-11-14T21:27:54.799925Z
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@sun @phnt @tfb @stefano seems reasonable. the fist-shakers tend to end up punching themselves in the face.
(DIR) Post #B0FTqJTutIfLh02S9I by phnt@fluffytail.org
2025-11-14T21:28:05.538908Z
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@sun @jae @tfb @stefano In case of BSDs, being averse to change is kinda a selling point to be honest. And I don't mean that in a bad way. Sometimes you specifically don't want all the new flashy features or getting stuck in the Linux "reinvent the wheel" cycle every 5-10 years. Things are much more stable.
(DIR) Post #B0FU12Owjcozu9pNE8 by jae@darkdork.dev
2025-11-14T21:30:02.295119Z
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@phnt @tfb @stefano @sun > In case of BSDs, being averse to change is kinda a selling point to be honest. we remain stable until further notice. it's part of our charm
(DIR) Post #B0FUDqBbShvfmhgvfE by sun@shitposter.world
2025-11-14T21:32:20.513236Z
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@jae @phnt @tfb @stefano maybe I should be more charitable but you get attuned to these kinds of things. I am not an a-hole, I almost instantly checked out of online spaces because of bad experiences with #Debian on IRC. But I guess contrary to some people's experience, I did ok with the OpenBSD community, which is perfectly friendly and helpful if you are careful to not waste people's time.
(DIR) Post #B0FUFI01XS8wKqxx6u by josephholsten@mstdn.social
2025-11-14T21:31:58Z
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@stefano I had a great conversation the other day with some FreeBSD folks about how to position it competitively when the user believes they need k8s instead.Sure, plenty of k8s flame was thrown, but at the end we agreed that for the user’s particular needs (some workloads were Linux only codebases, multi-cloud deployment not cost-optimized) k8s was really a better choice than nomad+jails or a custom orchestration setup.
(DIR) Post #B0FUSHJhO7CLyzMX2W by jae@darkdork.dev
2025-11-14T21:34:57.694913Z
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@sun @phnt @tfb @stefano > I almost instantly checked out of online spaces because of bad experiences with #Debian on IRChad similar experience when i was huffing the nixos gas. these days my online space is well, you know.> careful to not waste people's time.i think that's the key, sun. being respectful of people's time then it's worthwhile. the openbsd guys are often labeled angry bofh's by newcomers. just have to take time to get to know them.
(DIR) Post #B0FuaBG6OQRkJq6oAS by ricardo@mastodon.bsd.cafe
2025-11-14T16:28:59Z
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@stefano I really wonder *where* Yorick interacted with those alleged BSD users ... Twitter?, Reddit? 🙈
(DIR) Post #B0FuaCTxqN8477bOPg by stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe
2025-11-14T16:32:51Z
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@ricardo I think discord.
(DIR) Post #B0FuaDSaCzcP97xnto by grahamperrin@mastodon.bsd.cafe
2025-11-15T02:27:08Z
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@stefano @ricardo the article mentioned the FreeBSD subreddit and The FreeBSD Forums. Yorick Peterse shared his post in the sub, where it was very well-received. Pictured: insights that are not visible to the public (I very rarely share such things, doing so seems harmless on this occasion). No mention of Discord, Twitter, or X. Also pictured: the wiki for FreeBSD Discord very recently cautioned that the FreeBSD Community Code of Conduct can not be enforced. I do not imagine that this caution relates to any recent misconduct there …<https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct/><https://wiki.freebsd.org/Discord/DiscordServer><https://yorickpeterse.com/>#FreeBSD #Reddit #forums #Discord #community #conduct #misconduct