Post B0BMCGN5m0QcSwfDhA by jack@status.sexyferret.science
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(DIR) Post #B09NchbcqmIo6CiGdk by cody@catboy.baby
2025-11-11T22:50:08.414Z
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They are at it again... Chat Control 2.0 is being fast tracked last minute with an EVEN WORSE proposal if you can believe it... Due date TOMORROW.Please please please if you live anywhere in the European Union, email, call or get in contact however you want, but let your countries members of parlament know that you oppose this absurd legislation and that they should too.LET'S FLOOD THEIR EMAILS so they can't miss this.https://fightchatcontrol.eu/
(DIR) Post #B09NvCvT8qhcRtooJU by cody@catboy.baby
2025-11-11T22:53:28.937Z
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If you don't live in the EU, please let your followers know about this so those who do can email their MEPs, do. You can also email any country's MEPs, as their emails are technically reachable even if you're not European. Consider this legislation sets precedents for similar legislation to be passed in other parts of the world...
(DIR) Post #B09QAF8HQ4nrXq6l2O by cody@catboy.baby
2025-11-11T23:18:36.636Z
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And to be frank, even if your non-european country never passes any law like this and this law is not implemented by basically giving the EU a complete backdoor into ALL communications from ALL countries (which is probably how most will deal with this), it would still mean that every time you chat with your European friends, your conversation would be monitored.
(DIR) Post #B0AEOm8eUpKtfoPBFw by AleF2050@livellosegreto.it
2025-11-12T08:08:58Z
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@cody I really hate this sneaky move to get a worser version of Chat Control approved.We better hurry up because right now we've got only hours, but they unfortunately nailed the momentum where we were just good and chilling....
(DIR) Post #B0BMCErVNxZFmgsTp2 by jack@status.sexyferret.science
2025-11-12T17:10:38.358154Z
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@cody just admit you like protecting pedophiles more than children this is embarrassing
(DIR) Post #B0BMCGN5m0QcSwfDhA by jack@status.sexyferret.science
2025-11-12T17:11:18.777201Z
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@cody there is no civil liberty to secretly converse with a corporation!
(DIR) Post #B0BMCHXlPoYi6KfFy4 by jack@status.sexyferret.science
2025-11-12T17:11:37.214677Z
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@cody rights are between natural persons
(DIR) Post #B0BMCIYVeWkXEw1Mlk by cody@catboy.baby
2025-11-12T21:43:20.052Z
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@jack@status.sexyferret.science There are many studies that support the opposite of what you're defending, either you have literally no idea about what you are defending or you are a paid shill for anti-privacy corporations who WILL proffit from this law being passed. Either way I don't think I am interested in federating with you, good bye.
(DIR) Post #B0BMlm2g0wUIpI30aW by blossomlilija@jorts.horse
2025-11-12T18:10:42Z
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@cody say sike... so accessing diy in europe would be practically made impossible given lots of countries laws of controlled substances..? *sighs*
(DIR) Post #B0BMlrgD3O56JLa9Oy by blossomlilija@jorts.horse
2025-11-12T18:13:28Z
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@cody I'm also assuming it'd cut access to signal then as well, given signal's latest threat of cutting access with the proposal prior.. right..?
(DIR) Post #B0BN4iUFSO73IlybYW by cody@catboy.baby
2025-11-12T21:53:25.178Z
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@blossomlilija@jorts.horse Yes. I really don't see the point in having Signal in the first place if AI companies are going to be scanning your chats anyway, it would give people a false sense of security... So yes, I think Signal would cease operations in Europe. Either way I don't think the proposal is actually even implementable technically speaking, but they will try their absolute best and they will probably succeed in many cases or at the very least make it very difficult and illegal to use anything properly built for encryption.
(DIR) Post #B0BNhmfJr44vYTme4O by blossomlilija@jorts.horse
2025-11-12T21:55:37Z
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@cody yikes.. so signal is just as (un)safe as mastodon/discord/etc? double oof...
(DIR) Post #B0BNhoNfTf9CsJXZpo by blossomlilija@jorts.horse
2025-11-12T21:56:48Z
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@cody (I'm not the most tech-educated one, all I was being told is signal being allegedly some sort of safe/isolated~ish(?)/private messenger)
(DIR) Post #B0BNhpFCGdxvYKaKGm by cody@catboy.baby
2025-11-12T22:00:27.301Z
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@blossomlilija@jorts.horse It is safe right now, what I mean is it wouldn't be safe if this proposal is made into legislation in the EU. Signal as of right now is E2E encrypted with very strong encryption and only stores your phone and username. That's ALL police get when they make a data request to Signal, phone number and username. But if this passes, they would be forced by European legislation to scan your chats before encrypting or to encrypt for whoever you are talking to AND police, so they can scan. And I assume rather than doing that, Signal would just cease operations in Europe to avoid having to comply with that absolutely stupid law.
(DIR) Post #B0BO9Rc5ifWGN6Smdk by cody@catboy.baby
2025-11-12T22:05:28.671Z
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@blossomlilija@jorts.horse Also by police I don't ACTUALLY mean police, because I really doubt police has enough resources to scan every single text sent in Signal, it would probably be subcontracted to some tech giant, who would score an infinite money glitch by exploiting this law, which they are very much lobbying to pass.
(DIR) Post #B0BOHQhsyRH5sPyttY by blossomlilija@jorts.horse
2025-11-12T22:06:37Z
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@cody oh yeah I already understood. a lot of european countries already have active contracts/partnerships with "this certain US surveillance giant" so that's fun.. /s
(DIR) Post #B0BOV8cH1xqBp9tQ9o by cody@catboy.baby
2025-11-12T22:09:23.995Z
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@blossomlilija@jorts.horse Yup, exactly... this law is absolute fucking shit, and I say this as a very much pro-EU person, who is actually actively participating in software development for the EU Commission, and extremely proud of it... So yep, it's bad.
(DIR) Post #B0BOppPBeUi0K6daNs by blossomlilija@jorts.horse
2025-11-12T22:10:25Z
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@cody I'm also not looking forward for the planned electronic ID stuff either..
(DIR) Post #B0BOpqrwD5IirZ63pw by cody@catboy.baby
2025-11-12T22:13:07.671Z
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@blossomlilija@jorts.horse Electronic ID can be a good thing if implemented correctly. It can speed up a lot of things you need to deal with the government for (tax filings, public healthcare, subsidy applications...) Requiring ID for non-government related things is however NOT okay.
(DIR) Post #B0BPPvI9FArJ0MYZ7o by blossomlilija@jorts.horse
2025-11-12T22:16:02Z
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@cody eh... I'm extremely anti putting bureaucracy into the internet.. just as I'm against the electronic health insurance files some/many european countries are already trying to push forI do think certain thinks just should not digitalized simply from a moral position
(DIR) Post #B0BPPwJFSZKiA44xTk by cody@catboy.baby
2025-11-12T22:19:38.983Z
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@blossomlilija@jorts.horse I always thought technology should serve the people, and this is one way I think technology can do so. Bureaucracy is and always will be tedious, so the least time we can spend doing it the better. However there are many ways in which you can do bureaucracy, both in paper and digitally, and some ways of doing it are absolutely abhorrent, and others are actually surprisingly good... I think EID is actually a good thing as long as we focus on putting it where it needs to be and not where it doesn't need to be (and I am pushing for doing this as much as I'm able from my day job).
(DIR) Post #B0BQOSzr3gmquirxnU by blossomlilija@jorts.horse
2025-11-12T22:24:15Z
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@cody oh, yeah, technologyshould serve the people, I just personally came to the conclusion that western society has stopped asking "should we" while kept pushing the "could we" and I have simply no trust in the system of ever being able to have a proper/good implementation of this.Especially do I have no trust in it as it being sold as mandatory.1/2
(DIR) Post #B0BQOUQ7lVOVKUASNk by blossomlilija@jorts.horse
2025-11-12T22:24:22Z
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@cody I just think some forms of technology can be bent for good, but some technology (ie. ai, mass surveillance (which eID kinda is), etc) just can not be "done good" 2/2
(DIR) Post #B0BQOVVphlYSiTqWv2 by cody@catboy.baby
2025-11-12T22:30:34.390Z
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@blossomlilija@jorts.horse eID is not mass surveilance, eID in its roots (just eID by itself) is an authentication system. Where you put that system and what you do with it is up to you, and it can be used to surveil, sure, but by itself it's just a way to log-in, same way you could use GPG to sign a message, all it says is "I am this person and I said this". There are many places where you should never be forced to say "I am this person", but I think you should be able to say "I am this person" in many places where it makes sense (see previous examples)
(DIR) Post #B0BQVeHzTIhlxpmELY by cody@catboy.baby
2025-11-12T22:31:54.066Z
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@blossomlilija@jorts.horse But I totally get your frustration with the system... It is kind of disheartening to see shit be miss-used ALL the fucking time...
(DIR) Post #B0BR6DHgq0TavO4V7I by blossomlilija@jorts.horse
2025-11-12T22:37:54Z
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@cody idk I just can see just from my current situation, too disabled to be able to work anymore, forced-retired because of it, I already live in a very limited life and this entire eID stuff and electronic health insurance files stuff just seems.. not good to say it kindly..idk maybe my priorities are more towards better accessibiltiy for disabled people to get doctors appointments/therapy, better public transport/disability accessible cities, less fossil fuels..1/2
(DIR) Post #B0BR6R4jYyQnhG7Lrk by blossomlilija@jorts.horse
2025-11-12T22:38:02Z
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@cody the list of things I think european society could benefit more from than a stupid eID especially under the consideration of germany's proposal of marking trans people on said eID on top of all that.. 2/2
(DIR) Post #B0BRdUCix1IoxOcAIC by cody@catboy.baby
2025-11-12T22:44:31.350Z
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@blossomlilija@jorts.horse Yeah I agree... Again, eID can be used for many useful things, I envision this being used so you can quickly make a doctor's appointment from your phone and not need to call the hospital. Many disabled people have problems with calling, either it gives them anxiety or hell, maybe their disability is they literally can't talk or hear. I think a good option to make doctor appointments is through an app on your phone, it's much more agile and at least for me, it gives me less anxiety.But I can also see how some insurance company CEO could be jerking off to the idea of requiring a full health report to be disclosed from eID in order to provide insurance... This is something we should legislate against.
(DIR) Post #B0BRez2fmXWOt9cx2O by blossomlilija@jorts.horse
2025-11-12T22:43:31Z
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@cody like I'm not "Against Tech just because" I just simply think there are way more important issues europe faces (project fortress europe, the EU's participation with israel in its genocide, the capitalist system in its entirety, the EU vassal position towards the US, rise of fascist partys within the EU, its members and the EU parliament/commission..) that needs more important fixes than *gestures at this eID stuff*
(DIR) Post #B0BS3NOat5SbMzVo7k by cody@catboy.baby
2025-11-12T22:49:12.175Z
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@blossomlilija@jorts.horse Absolutely agreed. No discussion there... Other stuff is in way more dire need of attention. I don't get paid for it though, which doesn't mean I will not fight for it, I do. But this I get paid to fight for, and if I can make something proper off of it, I will definitely push as much as I can to get something that is utopian rather than dystopian.