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 (DIR) Post #AzvzcRNpsqxO55Y63E by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-11-05T11:49:49Z
       
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       The concept of personal AI detector software makes no sense to me. There is a role for such tech in filtering, bot detection, preventing spam, in the spheres of mass processing. But in the intimate space of human communication I don't think it works.Nonetheless there is demand. There was also, once, demand for psychic mediums who could detect if *other* psychic mediums were frauds. People continue to use "lie detectors" despite all of the evidence that polygraphs are junk.
       
 (DIR) Post #Azw05QYG3W2VtnFIHY by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-11-05T11:55:06Z
       
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       AI causes a lot of anxiety because being "fooled" by AI makes us feel foolish. If you look at a painting and enjoy it, only to later find out it was generated it can make you wonder if you have the perceptive appreciation of art that might be a part of your identity. If you laugh at a joke generated by AI, do you have a sense of humor?No one likes to feel like we have been tricked. But let me "tap the sign" I am not immune to propaganda. I can be "fooled" by AI.
       
 (DIR) Post #Azw0Rqdzj0XfC6cVCi by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-11-05T11:59:09Z
       
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       I'm putting "fooled" in quotes since, just as cloud computing is just "other people's computers" AI generated content is just other people's recycled art.Some of the time, AI generated content can be good. It can be moving, meaningful, and some artists incorporate it into their work effectively. When I've looked at the kind of work flow that allows AI to be used effectively a lot of the "magic" vanishes. A person is still curating, refining, and shaping the final product. It's time consuming.
       
 (DIR) Post #Azw0TLyQjB9CePtdT6 by toerror@mastodon.gamedev.place
       2025-11-05T11:59:24Z
       
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       @futurebird The conclusion I came to re art whether written / visual media etc. is that it is as the art establishment would say, art is self expression;  It's a communication from the artist to the viewer, and while the superficial aesthetics of a generative piece may work for you, it can only ever be a homogenised echo of things others said - the comminication is non existent, and while it can be fun to look for faces in the clouds, it's important to remember that that's what you are doing.
       
 (DIR) Post #Azw1Ws5HtiCb3yLT6W by Phosphenes@mastodon.social
       2025-11-05T12:11:14Z
       
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       @futurebird Personally I agree some of it is really good, and shows a lot of human creative effort:https://youtube.com/shorts/kKyj8QVj9PgWe don't say a writer, director and editor are doing nothing just because they're not in front of the camera or drawing the pictures.
       
 (DIR) Post #Azw4jsjH6vDCgrwcNM by asakiyume@wandering.shop
       2025-11-05T12:47:11Z
       
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       @futurebird The thing I resent about my suspicion about things being AI generated is that it contaminates things the other way: I end up doubting or dismissing legitimate but overly dramatic or "perfect" photos taken by actual photographers.But you're right: it's not that there's something subjectively bad about the product of AI but simply that the production of art (or writing or music) by AI is a repudiation of human effort, experience, and communion.
       
 (DIR) Post #Azw5G9c1sJNKJqwaOG by lionelb@expressional.social
       2025-11-05T12:53:02Z
       
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       @futurebird Exactly. Admitting our vulnerability is an essential part of protecting ourselves from its influence.
       
 (DIR) Post #Azwf4RZYs1NMteVNGS by NatureMC@mastodon.online
       2025-11-05T19:34:16Z
       
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       @futurebird As a journalist, checking sources and facts is part of every day's work (unfortunately more and more). But just one software isn't enough! Investigative colleagues like @Bellingcat need a whole collection of instruments plus crowdsourcing and professional knowledge.You invent one software, AI companies break it, you have to adapt the software etc.My problem: I trust less text and photos than before AI came up.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzxIxZiSBuruIBwaDg by stevenaleach@sigmoid.social
       2025-11-06T03:01:14Z
       
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       @futurebird I wonder if there's any chance that all the AI slop might have a positive impact -- people might actually start carefully *reading* things and thinking "did that actually say anything?" every now and then.Frankly, the enormous amount of pitchy, buzz-wordy marketing type text on the internet makes LLMs *terrible* writers 'cause that's the kind of stuff they're primed to write.Might the bar now be raised for actual human writing?Is that a reasonable hope, maybe?