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(DIR) Post #AzvAJ2gwMsWUKuTga8 by BrodieOnLinux@mstdn.social
2025-11-05T02:14:56Z
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> The year is 2035> ext-zones is still open in Wayland protocols. > There exists 5 different plugins with different incompatible versions of the protocol> Apps and toolkits just deal with the mess and partially implement support because they desperately need to be able to position windows> Window positioning is now a standard feature that web apps rely on> "I guess it's time to re-open ext-zones in Wayland and standardize it"> There are now 6 incompatible versions
(DIR) Post #AzvAap6DdtX5OQmQym by monotonehell@aus.social
2025-11-05T02:18:05Z
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@BrodieOnLinux xkcd deference
(DIR) Post #AzvAnjPM78BbVRt0sK by BrodieOnLinux@mstdn.social
2025-11-05T02:20:29Z
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We are probably about a year or so away from Wayland protocols losing complete control of ext-zones and app developers implementing it through plugins and outside of the Wayland discussion space. When that happens good luck trying to fix the mess that it's going to create.
(DIR) Post #AzvG8r7T8aRfH7PcH2 by technobaboo@ordinary.cafe
2025-11-05T03:20:17Z
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@BrodieOnLinux someone is gonna frog protocol it
(DIR) Post #AzvGQKjsGZfK3qi4zg by BrodieOnLinux@mstdn.social
2025-11-05T03:23:29Z
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@technobaboo There's already a KDE plugin in the Fedora repos, there's some use of it in the automotive space, if that push can be done to bring it into qt then there's not much than can be done to stop it
(DIR) Post #AzvIBVzsKJUCXfFwCu by technobaboo@ordinary.cafe
2025-11-05T03:43:11Z
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@BrodieOnLinux let's just hope they never make an app crash without it, idk if I can fit it into stardust
(DIR) Post #AzvIN7nM8PHcxKw6ee by BrodieOnLinux@mstdn.social
2025-11-05T03:45:20Z
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@technobaboo I am hopeful for the protocol but it side stepping any discussion could cause some big problems.
(DIR) Post #AzvLvTYW2F8M9b4AHg by alavi@techhub.social
2025-11-05T04:25:07Z
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@BrodieOnLinux Wayland is fucked up
(DIR) Post #Azvdkzvp7WEcYV7bd2 by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2025-11-05T07:44:56Z
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@BrodieOnLinux@technobaboo but qt is listed as one of the required (2 client + 1 server) implementations for ext-zones to get merged...
(DIR) Post #Azw2osfcYcPW2zUWMC by deedend@mastodon.social
2025-11-05T12:25:43Z
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@BrodieOnLinuxHello, would you consider making a video about #MangoWC ? It looks interesting
(DIR) Post #AzwxGpPvqAgHV23X8a by alteredspecifis@social.linux.pizza
2025-11-05T13:07:20Z
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@deedend Think you'd get faster response if you linked directly to the projecthttps://github.com/DreamMaoMao/mangowc@BrodieOnLinux
(DIR) Post #AzwxGqj6yLcJYo2Mfg by BrodieOnLinux@mstdn.social
2025-11-05T22:58:15Z
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@alteredspecifis @deedend I'm aware of the project and need to get around to it eventually
(DIR) Post #AzxUlY3Vjmu17MpCds by mage_of_dragons@mastodon.social
2025-11-06T05:13:34Z
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@BrodieOnLinux Idk that much about Wayland but why do they have so much trouble with window positioning? At least in my mind that seems like a pretty simple interface
(DIR) Post #AzxWYH8rVjFInx7uaG by trzyglow@mastodon.social
2025-11-06T05:33:36Z
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@BrodieOnLinux sometimes i wonder what happened to frog protocols?
(DIR) Post #AzxYeBJIJ18WMbwy1I by BrodieOnLinux@mstdn.social
2025-11-06T05:57:06Z
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@mage_of_dragons There's about 3 hours worth of reading to get you up to speed on that, the TLDR is Wayland wants to be able to support more than just desktop compositors so creating a system that makes sense in VR is very hard, there's some security concerns with allowing windows to choose where they can place themselves, and there's also a handful of people in Wayland who just want to do something that is not X11 or Windows but that's a minority