Post AzuPTHLq1UBWquzELQ by Zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith
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 (DIR) Post #AzuMhAK6eLHJFP6fdg by adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa
       2025-11-04T16:59:03.164701Z
       
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       Btw, Kaiona, the Firefish/Calckey developer who kinda fell off the face of the Earth went to BlueSky. Abandoned the Fediverse altogether.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzuMnsbAwq70IoIB04 by adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa
       2025-11-04T17:00:14.922771Z
       
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       BlueSky is pretty fucking terrible, though. Considering just deleting my account or otherwise deleting the app or whatever. The entire platform is just openly hostile and antagonistic. It’s like being on Mastodon.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzuO9GKG1gVDvU8fPE by adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa
       2025-11-04T17:15:19.871468Z
       
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       BlueSky is also internally fracturing in the same way that the Fediverse is fractured: via large, ever-growing block-lists. At least with BlueSky it’s on an individual, user-by-user basis vs. domain-by-domain, so you don’t end up with 1 server admin unilaterally blocking access to a remote user or server for their X number of hosted users. But, it’s still becoming a problem. And, BlueSky users seem a lot more block-happy than even Mastodon admins. I guess, as it turns out, having everyone live under one “big tent” or whatever doesn’t work out: most people don’t like one another and forcing everyone all together is never going to result in anything other than dysfunction.As I expressed therein:The end-result of the Bsky experience for any srs or long-time user is getting blocked by a sizable percentage of the user-base + oneself blocking a sizable percentage of the user-base—not dissimilar from the Fediverse experience w/ nw fragmentation behind colossal server block-lists.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzuOHEdqAhh31H6HVw by adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa
       2025-11-04T17:16:45.550867Z
       
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       It doesn’t help that the whole network is also populated almost exclusively by Western liberals, who demonstrate time and time again that they’re the most insufferable, most dangerous psychopaths inhabiting this planet’s crust.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzuPP2JG0Oqn2kkxJA by dcc@annihilation.social
       2025-11-04T17:29:24.913809Z
       
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       @adiz Uh yea, i told you months ago.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzuPTHLq1UBWquzELQ by Zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith
       2025-11-04T17:29:54.550449Z
       
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       @adiz Is it federated yet
       
 (DIR) Post #AzuSzX7BFWwCs6CbD6 by adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa
       2025-11-04T18:09:34.961049Z
       
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       @Zergling_man No, and it never will be. It doesn’t use a federated model for its decentralized networking approach.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzuT33e0lIjOd3EteK by adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa
       2025-11-04T18:10:14.553692Z
       
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       @dcc A man’s got to find out for himself sometimes. Especially when it’s the hot new thing in town.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzuT7wvXAFmjF8lfWq by dcc@annihilation.social
       2025-11-04T18:10:57.747164Z
       
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       @adizdirty_harry_know_ones_limitations.gif
       
 (DIR) Post #AzuTNJokL9bya3vCl6 by kirby@freerobuxextremist.com
       2025-11-04T18:13:43.919652Z
       
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       @adiz 2019 twitter but on an overengineered mess, basically. Twitter users have always been block happy. I remember having like 10 people blocking me on my humble little 200 tweet account back then.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzuTmd1Q4l1NNiuyqO by adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa
       2025-11-04T18:18:27.197227Z
       
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       @kirby I do think that Authenticated Transfer Protocol has viability, even if Nostr (I think) is superior architecturally. The problem with both networks though is that the user-base is just beyond bad to the point that there is nothing fun or constructive or enjoyable about using either network. Especially so with Nostr because the clients are so terrible that the user experience overall is horrid. Activity Pub is the weakest of the lot but at least the clients are pretty great and the overall experience is nice and the users are fun.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzuVBTRouRDYsig5Ts by phnt@fluffytail.org
       2025-11-04T18:34:11.051125Z
       
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       @adiz @dcc I tried to sign up half a year ago, they didn't send and email to my own server, gave up.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzuVO3dUBk0mam8PxI by adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa
       2025-11-04T18:36:25.312828Z
       
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       @phnt The protocol is interesting and the primary app has a really good UI/UX but the entire network and community is absolutely cancer. @dcc
       
 (DIR) Post #AzuVSxAFg1G5y8nMau by phnt@fluffytail.org
       2025-11-04T18:37:20.567315Z
       
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       @adiz @dcc You've just described Nostr, Mastodon and Bsky all in one post.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzuVXLTTEcFWWVsYJU by mirage@ryona.agency
       2025-11-04T18:38:08.536678Z
       
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       @adiz Bluesky is the network where you go if you want 10 principals asking you to see them in their office after making a joke.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzuXoUQBQIJL6SdzdI by adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa
       2025-11-04T19:03:36.726848Z
       
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       @phnt No, there is really functional or good Nostr client/app. Universally all terrible. Don’t really know why. BlueSky’s client/app is basically just Twitter…which makes sense considering it was developed originally by Twitter prior to X. Fediverse has a lot of clients to choose from, many of which are solid (including PWAs like Misskey). Nostr has nothing good going for it, even though the protocol is arguably the best. It’s really very unfortunate. Meanwhile, Activity Pub basically has everything going for it despite it being the shittiest of protocols, in my opinion. Really looking forward to/hoping for something like widespread FEP-ae97 implementation. @dcc
       
 (DIR) Post #AzuY9wb9rBLuZe0XOC by adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa
       2025-11-04T19:07:30.564100Z
       
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       @mirage Liberals are the least chill, most humorless, most controlling, most sanctimonious, most tyrannical people in the world. Absolutely cannot stand them. They don’t realize that leftism or more progressively liberal policies might get widespread support or adoption across society if they weren’t such horrible pieces of shit who nobody likes.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzuYk4myshmKOylbo8 by mirage@ryona.agency
       2025-11-04T19:14:03.639601Z
       
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       @adiz Liberals attempt to be a "centrist" voice at everything and yet I have not seen anyone, no matter if hardcore leftist or right wing extremist, enjoy the company of a liberal. Absolutely awful group of people.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzucqTxIcr4a0Zu4ES by phnt@fluffytail.org
       2025-11-04T20:00:01.616044Z
       
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       @adiz @dcc I think the developers using these protocols more or less describe the whole community using those protocols.Nostr are bitcoin maxies that went there not because of the protocol, because of the hype wave. Structurally it is a good protocol, extensions are clearly and rigidly defined. And since bitcoin maxies are kinda annoying and have nothing interesting to talk about, the network looks like that. Their passion for LLM everything also resembles their clients, barely working with a must-have "blink".ATProto is just a clone of Twitter with federation designed to be so complicated that most don't bother.  And as such, it brought the worst of Twitter with it. The new CEO can't save it, because the community is unsaveable. And AP is mostly chill, just like the main developers on it, minus the heavily political *key forks. I may disagree with lots of things that Eugene did with Mastodon, but I would still be able to have a beer or two with him. Suyjillo just wanted a forum that turned into a fedi server. And Pleroma devs are probably one of the most easy-going calm people I've ever talked to on the series of pipes and I'm no exaggerating that.AP as a protocol was sabotaged from the start by Twitter-brained (now Bluesky) people, but it managed to overcome that, because other people came in. Nostr only has bitcoin maxies that only care about muh censorship, nobody else came yet. I'm not counting glussy since where the money is, that's it.
       
 (DIR) Post #Azucy5PxjwrQDrw6ng by phnt@fluffytail.org
       2025-11-04T20:01:24.304493Z
       
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       @adiz @dcc >ATProto is just a clone of Twitter with federation designed to be so complicated that most don't bother.To add to this. This was very likely done deliberately just to skirt around the EU laws of interopability on social media. Technically interopable with other protocols, in reality not so much.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzueMytJF8CFAs66wi by adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa
       2025-11-04T20:17:04.524689Z
       
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       @phnt To my knowledge ATP doesn’t utilize federation. It’s a different model of decentralized networking. But, yes, it is very complicated/complex. Nostr, compared to AP and ATP is very simple. I don’t see why Nostr couldn’t be easily salvaged. @dcc
       
 (DIR) Post #AzuenniUtgfoKupSTY by phnt@fluffytail.org
       2025-11-04T20:21:57.830316Z
       
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       @adiz @dcc Nostr can easily be salvaged. Simply be a community willing to make their space in it. The problem is that this community likely won't arrive for years since nothing of value happens on Nostr. There is no incentive to do so and you can't easily build communities in Nostr, because everything is build on the idea of individuals. There's no concept of a community (instances) as there is on AP or ATProto. I think that's what Glussy wanted to fill with Ditto, make it feel more like an AP instance, but it didn't really work.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzufsPfRq4Cx9RAL6u by adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa
       2025-11-04T20:33:58.520984Z
       
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       @phnt Actually, Nostr is more like a community than ATP. ATP is entirely individualistic with PDSs which get queried by relays and populated in app views. Nostr is all relays. You could write (a) a good client + (b) provide nice, curated relays and then have a solid community/contender built on Nostr. I think that’s kinda what the Nos.Social people were trying to do but essentially dropped the project. The client was also still pretty janky. @dcc
       
 (DIR) Post #AzvQG2hnSVI4mETBzM by Zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith
       2025-11-05T05:12:24.412387Z
       
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       @adiz I thought the theory was there, but it basically required you to reverse-engineer some part of it that they've been promising to spec for ages?
       
 (DIR) Post #AzvZ8t2tsEgyNX0HMu by adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa
       2025-11-05T06:53:12.935883Z
       
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       @Zergling_man It’s more similar to Nostr insofar as app views populate content from relays that pull data from personal data servers (individual user servers that can be hosted anywhere). Whereas Nostr uses relays exclusively and users can self-host personal relays or leverage/use public relays to store data. Or potentially like every user being a single-user instance on the Fediverse.
       
 (DIR) Post #Azva28SAI4yc5iAJl2 by Zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith
       2025-11-05T07:01:42.134588Z
       
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       @adiz I still believe in revolver