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(DIR) Post #AzZEUR6RyYTaRPpGNM by sinituulia@eldritch.cafe
2025-10-25T12:12:34Z
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An encouraging take on why and how to stop using Pinterest, which us people looking for specific image references have hated for years because of how it's poisoned image search... (The original source! Give it to me!)"When you're exploring sources that aren't designed for marketing, you don't just find pretty images. You find stories, histories, details that will surprise you." And friction in the experience makes you act, not just scroll.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFknMA4cWKM#Pinterest #Sewing #Fashion
(DIR) Post #AzZEUSlFoKi3aFvMcC by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-10-25T12:18:06Z
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@sinituulia I really appreciate it when people on here post links to things they watch on youTube. I didn't know about this channel and now I do. Ya'll are the best algorithm in the universe.
(DIR) Post #AzZEUZoLbELLRsQQuO by sinituulia@eldritch.cafe
2025-10-25T12:14:47Z
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Too long didn't watch: Over a third of images offered to the viewer that is logged in are ads, and half of the things left are still things you can buy.Just scrolling is easy to get stuck in, and you feel like you're doing something, getting inspired, planning... You're mostly just looking at ads.And let's just very briefly touch on how a lot of the images are stolen, disseminated without the original creator's permission, cannot be taken down, and have also been used to train AI. Not great!
(DIR) Post #AzZEUjI6LyUWqlPp2G by sinituulia@eldritch.cafe
2025-10-25T12:15:28Z
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Special mention: There's a fucking fisherman aesthetic inspired latte, because caramel has... Sea salt in it?Ah, I hate it here. š
(DIR) Post #AzZFAooaCphC91g6Ns by WeirdWriter@caneandable.social
2025-10-25T12:25:45Z
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Right? I sometimes often joke that the Fediverse is the best RSS reader ever because I find the best links on here. @futurebird @sinituulia
(DIR) Post #AzZFLOSGYHczZmHXfs by sinituulia@eldritch.cafe
2025-10-25T12:27:40Z
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@futurebird I'm pretty selective with what I link because I know it can be a lot to drop whatever you're doing while browsing here, to watch a video, and I want it to always be worth it... But yes. š She's pretty great! YouTube has classified this as sewing content, so it's probably not even being recommended to people who don't watch a lot of crafts stuff, even if it's not strictly about sewing. Today I am the algorithm!
(DIR) Post #AzZHiYu44TBYY9SZjU by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-10-25T12:54:17Z
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@sinituulia I'm really impressed with Steph's analysis. (is she on here yet?) #Pinterest is mostly shoppable and sponsored content. Social media should connect us with other people and their ideas. It's more fun, and healthy that way. I would love to see this kind of analysis of #facebook, #instagram, #tumblr and #bluesky.There are more interesting graphs like this one in her video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFknMA4cWKM
(DIR) Post #AzZIpQSjx4UILvW2y0 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-10-25T13:06:44Z
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@Jirikiha @sinituulia I used to think there might be some middle ground where you could have "some" ads on social media and it still be a powerful and enjoyable part of the internet. I now think that social media cannot function in a positive way if it has advertising at all. We just need to find other ways to make it work. Ads are the reason people think social media is "toxic" ...
(DIR) Post #AzZJMnQTax2Z83MxBg by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-10-25T13:12:46Z
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@Jirikiha @sinituulia Listen. I think most people would agree that you can't have advertising in church, right? Do we need to explain why? Maybe we do. But, your social world is probably, in part, online. There shouldn't be ads in that space either, or sponsored posts, people *just* there to sell you something or try to get you to join something (like a church... ) or fake people made by a company to make you think "people are saying X or Y"This isn't radical. No ads in my social place!
(DIR) Post #AzZJpIogTnKCapHjk0 by zenkat@sfba.social
2025-10-25T13:17:55Z
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@futurebird @Jirikiha @sinituulia Ads in human social networks are effectively eusocial parasites, colonizing and exploiting the natural behaviors of their host species (us humans) for their selfish gains. Compare to the behavior of Formica ssp, where queens from one species take over another species's hive, exploiting the workers's natural behaviors for their own gain.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formica
(DIR) Post #AzZKEPo9cf2jW40na4 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-10-25T13:22:27Z
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@Jirikiha @sabrina @sinituulia This is why there is all of this talk of college being bad. I too was radicalized by the logic. :)
(DIR) Post #AzZKdw3QrtGElZKL20 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-10-25T13:27:04Z
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@Jirikiha @zenkat @sinituulia Yes! We've been talking about that paper. Probably the biggest ant news of the year IMO. Although I think that situation is so complex and deep it's more like a strange symbiosis. After all who is being exploited?
(DIR) Post #AzZKlTkpyESpJQE61Q by petealexharris@mastodon.scot
2025-10-25T13:28:24Z
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@futurebird @Jirikiha @sinituulia Yes. If anyone is in your social spaces with the goal to *get something out of you* they're not to be trusted. They're incentivised to act in ways that maximise what they can get, and escalate if they can get away with it, not participate in a healthy social way.We've all met people like that. Nobody likes them. Ads are like creepy unsolicited DMs from them.
(DIR) Post #AzZKpGpDz0beN55PzE by zenkat@sfba.social
2025-10-25T13:29:06Z
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@futurebird @Jirikiha @sinituulia Yes -- since the worker species DNA is also being replicated, there's mutual benefit ... weird and cool.
(DIR) Post #AzZLLsPFnDGkC4UEEK by graydon@canada.masto.host
2025-10-25T13:34:58Z
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@futurebird @Jirikiha @sinituulia In statistical, count-the-people terms, most US churches are nothing but advertising.This is not unrelated to the current state of affairs.
(DIR) Post #AzZLROCf04PEG3E05A by maswan@mastodon.acc.sunet.se
2025-10-25T13:35:58Z
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@futurebird @Jirikiha @sinituulia We were just talking in Swedish earlier today about how the most likely explanation for how increasingly far away from common sense and reality our political leadership is. And making the connection to the cesspits of propaganda (troll factory and not) and advertising social media they seem to spend time on.Realizing that you are not immune to propaganda (incl advertising) and taking steps to minimize exposure should be a priority and taught in school.
(DIR) Post #AzZLtv2uU8iQE5Ggz2 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-10-25T13:41:10Z
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@maswan @Jirikiha @sinituulia I think it is natural to think "I am too smart to be manipulated by ads. I know how they work." And that part is fine but this next bit is not "... and that's why I don't need to worry about how much of my time is spent in ad-saturated spaces. I am smart enough that the ads do not impact me unlike the weak willed and uninformed."That second bit isn't true for ANYONE. Let me put a saliva sensor in your mouth and show you a food you like when you are hungry.
(DIR) Post #AzZM8FRPS9wlXDYnSK by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-10-25T13:43:46Z
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@maswan @Jirikiha @sinituulia Or maybe you aren't sensitive to photos of food, but things like violence, gross images, soaring music. It moves your heart. If you care about media enough to enjoy it at all then you can (and have) been manipulated by ads. And maybe even manipulated to rationalize that you think the manipulation is fine. It's what I wanted! I wanted to get excited about the iPhone 4. Or the Video Game. Or the Endless Crab Plate.
(DIR) Post #AzZMKjjaeKO2xk1FFg by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-10-25T13:46:01Z
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@maswan @Jirikiha @sinituulia Heck I have happy memories of unboxing my iPhone 4. And I will keep enjoying them as my happy memories. But, a lifetimes of Apple advertising and branding played a big role in that. It helped that it was also a pretty good gadget.The only way is to simply avoid ads whenever possible. This will first of all vastly improve your level of happiness and quality of life. It's a lot of work. Not always possible. But still worth it.
(DIR) Post #AzZMcrOsszgXx0ya1o by maswan@mastodon.acc.sunet.se
2025-10-25T13:49:07Z
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@futurebird @Jirikiha @sinituulia Yeah, this realization has come late in my life (probably somewhere in my 30s), but at this point I really try to minimize the amount of ads I'm exposed to.Luckily adblockers work fine for most of the internet, the rest of it I just refuse to participate in (like youtube where adblocking frequently fails me, I've learnt to just not click those links).I think now a majority of the ones I see are in print in my morning newspaper.
(DIR) Post #AzZMlm1GGIN7rtB1U0 by bradr@infosec.exchange
2025-10-25T13:50:46Z
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@futurebird @maswan @Jirikiha @sinituulia All of this without even starting to talk about ad networks as an unavoidable and unmonitorable vector for malware and privacy failures (just the infra, not even getting into the content).
(DIR) Post #AzZN2B7ShycELctpqK by CurtAdams@urbanists.social
2025-10-25T13:52:26Z
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@Jirikiha @sabrina @futurebird @sinituulia I also see very little media and I find avoiding it leaves me much more content and self-directed. I think it's mostly avoiding ads; I see Samuel Smith's distinction between good (honest) advertising and bad (manipulative) advertising but - seriously, when do you ever get honest advertising on media?
(DIR) Post #AzZN2CngSTz1Yrf4IC by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-10-25T13:53:49Z
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@CurtAdams @Jirikiha @sabrina @sinituulia I like it when people post about their new book or crafts store on here. Or local ads for like ... a mattress store on the subway. That's my kind of advertising.
(DIR) Post #AzZNuYMEWcQ83cjjNY by 3janeTA@beige.party
2025-10-25T14:03:38Z
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@futurebird @sinituulia my estimate was 60/40 ad/real and I thought That was pessimistic!
(DIR) Post #AzZOKsePhKfWWbnIIK by geonz@mathstodon.xyz
2025-10-25T14:08:24Z
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@futurebird @maswan @Jirikiha @sinituulia That said, most ads are showing things that don't trigger salivation for me. ONly most ;) Part of High School English was learning about the tools of manipulation so we'd at least think about looking for them :P
(DIR) Post #AzZOTiAE3c8KbfsvK4 by darkling@mstdn.social
2025-10-25T14:10:01Z
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@futurebird @maswan @Jirikiha @sinituulia I work fairly hard on (a) avoiding the damn things, and if I can't do that, (b) a very conscious rejection.
(DIR) Post #AzZP8oUBSQ4i5QoqBM by mensrea@freeradical.zone
2025-10-25T14:17:26Z
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@futurebird @Jirikiha @sinituulia i think there is a place for ads, just not the surveillance-push model they seem to love to sell. like a sports team hosting a public instance. or a small local shop integrating their wordpress into the fedi and so on. but because it's the fedi you get to ignore or engage or block as you see fit
(DIR) Post #AzZR9A5dKlaGzyd6Ke by mdom@dice.camp
2025-10-25T14:39:52Z
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@futurebird @sinituulia It makes me think of the Dead Internet Theory ā Bots and ads everywhere!
(DIR) Post #AzZRBvBZCiw3dtikoy by quietewe@urbanists.social
2025-10-25T14:40:24Z
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@futurebird @maswan @Jirikiha @sinituulia I think this is especially important considering shifts in advertising practices. Thereās still traditional, āobviousā ads that we feel too smart to fall for (although we do). But now thereās spaces full of ads or downright propaganda presented as fun videos from that nice influencer who feels like a friend to you! Connect less with your friends, and more with the ones weāve created for you!
(DIR) Post #AzZU1FC6lu8GNLZfnc by egoldblatt@gardenstate.social
2025-10-25T15:12:05Z
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@futurebird @Jirikiha @sinituulia All that most churches are about is advertising. Evangelical beliefs turn it straight into an MLM, so I don't think that most people could agree to that massive hypocrisy. Besides, why should there only be one ongoing commercial in the church when so few of us get a respite like that?
(DIR) Post #AzZXOqDVaXebipAmdk by mattmcirvin@mathstodon.xyz
2025-10-25T15:49:59Z
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@futurebird @Jirikiha @sinituulia Jesus didn't seem to think he needed to explain the "no advertising in church" thing
(DIR) Post #AzZXrDXsRm78BNEO6C by clew@ecoevo.social
2025-10-25T15:55:05Z
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I was taken aback by how irrelevant Pinterestās ads were to me, given that almost everything I pinned was DIY. I read ads from Wawak and Mood and Ace Hardware with interest (they donāt sneak them, which helps). Pinterest mostly showed me Shein.Probably it would be worse to be advertised to accurately? It doesnāt seem to have ruined the Taunton magazines though, eg.@futurebird @sinituulia
(DIR) Post #AzaE7qksd7h4UtvVbc by nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social
2025-10-25T23:48:44Z
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@futurebird @Jirikiha @sinituulia It's not only not radical, it's quite literally in the Christian bible.