Post AzTgSRRVNEjCgQkfj6 by MeanwhileInOhio@nicecrew.digital
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(DIR) Post #AzTXSlC52Xw4Lxc8Ke by deprecated_ii@poa.st
2025-10-22T18:22:30.867282Z
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every time someone asks about getting a certification on a forum or reddit you always get the crowd who say "the best engineer I ever worked with didn't have no certs he only had an 8th grade education he started as a janitor in 1983" but they never mention where to find a time machine to go back to 1983
(DIR) Post #AzTXwt72ABpdbFcToG by jb@nicecrew.digital
2025-10-22T18:27:58.833142Z
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I’ve held a bunch of Microsoft certifications over the years There were only two reasons to have them 1. Job required it2. Might get your resume in the right stack* *superseded in current day by race and gender quotas
(DIR) Post #AzTYv8fZS3jJDxVIgq by deprecated_ii@poa.st
2025-10-22T18:38:51.560095Z
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@jb the only reason I care at all about certs is to get past HRI'm happy to get them if the company is going to pay for them of course. especially if they offer any kind of pay raise for doing it
(DIR) Post #AzTZOqznj6Od678SxM by chrislw@podcastindex.social
2025-10-22T18:42:49Z
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@deprecated_ii I only care about certs when they get me access to other certs I care about that will give me a badge or piece of paper that pretends to prove that I'm competent about what I care about
(DIR) Post #AzTdiTCEK10wtQYfsO by MeanwhileInOhio@nicecrew.digital
2025-10-22T19:00:45.551405Z
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I have many certs, all clearly listed on my resume, many matching what was asked for in the job description. None of them got me past HR. My age and White name more than cancelled them out.
(DIR) Post #AzTdiUdCzCBlLOBjZA by deprecated_ii@poa.st
2025-10-22T19:32:32.134153Z
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@MeanwhileInOhio @jb it's also the worst job market in living memory, continuing to get worse for several reasonsit won't last forever, and when the tide turns would you rather have the certs or not
(DIR) Post #AzTdnh6Q2ushTEKbnk by monkyyy@poa.st
2025-10-22T19:33:32.879519Z
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@deprecated_ii I hate this stupid game; why pretend that its winnable by any method other then luck
(DIR) Post #AzTeA6nLCfXBWa602q by professionalbigot69@poa.st
2025-10-22T19:37:35.568167Z
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@deprecated_ii @MeanwhileInOhio @jb it's simplewe, uhkill HR
(DIR) Post #AzTeF6QM0dLLp3j1Fo by MeanwhileInOhio@nicecrew.digital
2025-10-22T19:38:05.057121Z
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I'd rather have the certs, but I wonder about their value. They've been commodified and the qualifications of the holders are unpredictable, and some company's actual need for the certs beyond a filtering mechanism is questionable.
(DIR) Post #AzTeJnStvRHuTE9f7o by stoner713@poa.st
2025-10-22T19:36:40.890295Z
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@MeanwhileInOhio @deprecated_ii @jb Name change to Hasairid DarJeetinstein?
(DIR) Post #AzTefV8ClqVDyop8jo by Paultron@poa.st
2025-10-22T19:43:16.113454Z
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@MeanwhileInOhio @jb @deprecated_ii my current job was so insistent on the degrees and certifications but I'm confident I could teach a reasonably bright high school kid to do my job better than the Indian "engineers" that count as my colleagues
(DIR) Post #AzTflzvzG7DrCmlqpE by deprecated_ii@poa.st
2025-10-22T19:55:37.488143Z
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@MeanwhileInOhio @jb I don't think a certification means anything besides "passed a test" or maybe "paid someone to pass a test"but from a filtering point of view, they're easy signposts for non-technical recruiters and can be shorthand for a whole bunch of "skills" they know nothing about. HR types have never been less competent at mapping skills and experience to a job than they are nowit's an extremely stupid state of affairs but there's not much we can do to change it
(DIR) Post #AzTgSRRVNEjCgQkfj6 by MeanwhileInOhio@nicecrew.digital
2025-10-22T20:02:05.958255Z
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I've hired, and seen hired, people of all types with varying mixes of education and certification who had no practical idea of what they were doing, at all. No exaggeration, in my last job, they hired a guy who could barely type and then replaced him with a second guy who had no idea what a CSV was and struggled with text editing. This was for a high-level Linux admin job at a large company you may recognize. I'm guessing the rest of their candidate pool was worse because the company gave up trying to fill the position and doubled up my load before laying me off at the completion of a project. Tech and tech hiring is a complete shitshow.
(DIR) Post #AzThAJjdOLPFWK9YcC by deprecated_ii@poa.st
2025-10-22T20:11:14.519509Z
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@MeanwhileInOhio @jb @Paultron I believe, based on everything I've seen and heard about hiring in the last 5 years or so, that the first two filters (computer filters, then HR) select against competent, conscientious applicants. not by intentional design, but it's just how it works outthe first filter is presumably some kind of fairly dumb keyword/keyphrase matching filter. that selects for the people who just lie their asses off, or do the "copy the job description" trick, or have AI write their resume specifically to the job descriptionthen HR reinforces it by refusing to actually consider candidates for more than a few seconds. the guy who's telling the truth and would be a good fit gets rejected while the people gaming the system get through, because they look better than him at a glance. the details of projects and experience are ignored at this layer, as it might as well be sanskrit to an HR drone. zero comprehension is possiblethen we get the stories from hiring managers about how they haven't seen an actually good candidate in years and we obviously have a huge skill shortage and we need to quadruple H1B visas immediately