Post AzQkx3QKXgiRVeAvT6 by p@raru.re
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(DIR) Post #AzQke4o3B5KwINDkX2 by kaia@brotka.st
2025-10-21T10:05:59.241497Z
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how difficult is it really to run your own email service, like self-host it? :peek:
(DIR) Post #AzQkmISOJD2owt0eZs by lain@lain.com
2025-10-21T10:07:33.882494Z
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@kaia very easy unless your ip address has ever been used for spam then it's nearly impossible: https://mailinabox.email/
(DIR) Post #AzQkx3QKXgiRVeAvT6 by p@raru.re
2025-10-21T10:08:56Z
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I think if you want gmail people to receive mail as an example, that can be quite cumbersome too@lain @kaia
(DIR) Post #AzQkx4Ll6AeYNl2myu by lain@lain.com
2025-10-21T10:09:27.337679Z
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@p @kaia i used link related for years without any issues, including sending to gmail addresses.
(DIR) Post #AzQl2HhYsv0xEujGJE by p@raru.re
2025-10-21T10:10:07Z
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oh nice, they do all the DNS wizardry@lain @kaia
(DIR) Post #AzQl2PIKebaQmyzE5w by lain@lain.com
2025-10-21T10:10:27.718521Z
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@p @kaia yeah, that's the complicated part so i'd only use something that automates that
(DIR) Post #AzQl2pQjTzkrqZ7InY by fox@cytag.nl
2025-10-21T10:10:07Z
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@kaia The most honest answer is "Don't".You have to jump through so many hoops and settings to get things right and then your emails might still end up in the spam.It is, however, an interesting learning experience though, so you can always give it a shot.
(DIR) Post #AzQlEobkMl2ilsz5cW by kaia@brotka.st
2025-10-21T10:12:37.615572Z
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@lain Avoid these:.at.ca.de:8b_f:
(DIR) Post #AzQlOUfjLEjrpzSk88 by lain@lain.com
2025-10-21T10:14:27.508373Z
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@evamik @kaia no it's not
(DIR) Post #AzQldaf3MALskwLQ1Y by sally@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-10-21T10:16:07.902149Z
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@lain @kaia You do it over I2P, not over clearnet.
(DIR) Post #AzQldbdfimqDmwhpVg by lain@lain.com
2025-10-21T10:17:04.960733Z
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@sally @kaia you know how the winners do it? they do it and do it and do it and do it until the job gets done.
(DIR) Post #AzQm5nrxqGu9pSpvTE by phnt@fluffytail.org
2025-10-21T10:22:17.923147Z
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@p @lain @kaia Depends. I never had problems with Google (or any provider really), but they do weird rating that is completely non-transparent. What caused me more issues is services refusing to send me mail, because some of them do domain whitelisting apparently. But that is also a problem with my main email provider.If you can find a hosting company that is strict enough about who they allow to host email on their IP space, then it's probably gonna work fine.
(DIR) Post #AzQmQrr4DeBoGsSeOG by grillchen@brotka.st
2025-10-21T10:26:05.812388Z
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@kaia @lain .cricket is a very good tld
(DIR) Post #AzQmWXxd68aiJAErUO by rain@melonbread.xyz
2025-10-21T10:27:09.043Z
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@kaia@brotka.st I use MailCow and have no real issueshttps://mailcow.email/
(DIR) Post #AzQnpJAWQ0yXt5mMEK by mandelhorn@mastodon.social
2025-10-21T10:38:07Z
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@kaia @whitequark posted about that just recently: https://mastodon.social/@whitequark/115343167332029690In the replies you can even find its NixOS configuration: https://mastodon.social/@whitequark/115344391915709156
(DIR) Post #AzQpm2BjIMOiGMuVn6 by ilja@ilja.space
2025-10-21T11:03:24.826170Z
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@kaia i've done it, not as hard as some claim it to be. most arguments i've seen is either "it's too hard to set up and maintain", which 100% depends on what sollution one uses, and they chose the hard to set up and maintain sollution. Or it's delivery problems. In my experience, it can indeed happen that ms/google doesn't show your mail even when everything is set up right, but not always. And delivery does seem to go through when replying to email, and most places have a contact form where the email thread starts from anyhow. So in practice this didn't matter too much for my use case (personal mail, mostly receive, or send to only a small set of people). In the end i did switch to a local coop for hosting my mail bc i can't trust myself to not mess up my server during times where i need my server to be up :3c but that's more of a general self hosting thing rather than email specific.
(DIR) Post #AzQrbrdjrGwqYpI1ho by PogoHandshake@sportloto.company
2025-10-21T11:23:21Z
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@kaia doesn't worth it, to be honest. but if you have enough time, I'd recommend "Run Your Own Mail Server” from @mwl
(DIR) Post #AzQry4e2BgNFGV1CqG by kaia@brotka.st
2025-10-21T11:28:02.467023Z
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@PogoHandshake @mwl what a range :meowOwoEyes:
(DIR) Post #AzQvpDSKSRxFnqZibI by i@declin.eu
2025-10-21T12:11:20.644678Z
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@kaia there's a ton of automatic all in one setups these days, but deliverability/reputation racketeering is even worse than fediblock because it's a multi billion corporation with no accountability instead of some powertripping dweebowning the domain and keeping an imapsync backup is about the right level of ownership that's not a complete pain
(DIR) Post #AzQwLCajCvwAO8kvVA by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2025-10-21T12:17:08.032337Z
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@kaia uhhh theres https://github.com/docker-mailserver/docker-mailserver is a thing
(DIR) Post #AzQyncOl3FO2RZpnpg by mwl@io.mwl.io
2025-10-21T12:43:47Z
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@kaia @PogoHandshake :flan_blush: thank you!