Post AzMifeu9TP4209rUPI by mhoye@mastodon.social
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 (DIR) Post #AzMifZKADmJ2h5zB7Q by mhoye@mastodon.social
       2025-10-18T19:05:06Z
       
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       I don’t spend a lot of time on here telling you all how smart my kids are but today I was talking with my son about the idea of a “Third Place” and he mentioned how all these “coming of age” stories he’s read have kids "hanging out at the mall”, and what a weird, totally alien idea that is to him and his friends. “Did they even have places you could sit down or not buy anything then? None of us have money.”
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMifeu9TP4209rUPI by mhoye@mastodon.social
       2025-10-18T19:06:19Z
       
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       “I wish I lived in a world where I had a third space that wasn’t my room” and God Damn I felt that.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMifkGfX72wdRR2hM by mhoye@mastodon.social
       2025-10-18T20:19:24Z
       
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       If we don’t want kids staring at screens all day then maybe we should build a world where online multiplayer chat isn’t  the only third space that teenagers have available to them.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzNCv8ZmR2JGzid7Me by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
       2025-10-19T17:04:03Z
       
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       @mhoye I've been clamoring for physical hangout space, social space, eg cafes for just meet and talk. Half of it hinges on the cost of real estate; I kinda resisted that idea as simplistic but I think it's just fundamental. In the 80s and 90s the pink warehouse scene, including group houses, were project oriented and did lots of stuff, but there was lots of "fallow" time where nothing happened and that really where the ideation and scheming and planning happened.  But we didn't need to track hours per unit time. We just had the space. Scroungy and cold and sometimes dirty, but flexible, safe and continuous. *CONTINUITY* id what you need to have social and physical things happen.  Hetero places were much more male dominated then the queer ones we made. Gay men can certainly be as piggish as straight men but a very large number of them embrace process, and could be modified, sometimes, but often just identified as dicks and better groups forked off from them. We quickly ended up with a women majority and majorly strong female vibes. Surprise! Theres some threshold past which positive feedback ensures it can't flip back. Boiling menstrual sponges on the kitchen stove was one of those markers, lol.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzND4D1XGgRTOXwDeS by benpocalypse@mastodon.social
       2025-10-18T21:56:05Z
       
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       @mhoye Remember rec centers? Skate parks? Arcades?
       
 (DIR) Post #AzND4DqaCtH7wrozDc by dymaxion@infosec.exchange
       2025-10-19T08:58:51Z
       
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       @benpocalypse@mhoye interesting to note that most of those are de facto very male spaces. Far fewer third spaces for teenage girls.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzND4EOcAMUtePkAGO by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
       2025-10-19T17:05:39Z
       
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       @dymaxion @benpocalypse @mhoye Space to do things largely accountable to the people using it. And no "productivity" metrics. Fuck all that. Hanging out "doing nothing" is art making. Trust is essential. Accountability is important but they had nothing to to with outcomes.