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 (DIR) Post #AzMZgEiVQQnjU2cC7k by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-10-19T09:44:20Z
       
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       "The cost to use AI is currently artificially low but, on the other hand, the demand is also low."Is... that that really an "other hand" it sounds like it's the same hand?
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMZqUs4DeLiTryoKG by chessert@mastodon.online
       2025-10-19T09:46:08Z
       
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       @futurebird Who needs it, but then who's askin'? 🤷‍♂️
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMaAYcTzX2vtmFvkG by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-10-19T09:49:46Z
       
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       @Leendaal Oh. I see. Very intelligent, how could I miss it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMcSt3WwrkSOwm7yy by kevinriggle@ioc.exchange
       2025-10-19T10:15:28Z
       
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       @futurebird I keep saying that, observationally, the market-clearing price of most of these AI-powered tools is zero. (I.e. people only want to use them, barely, if they're free.)
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMdNy1n8SAYKOBD6m by kevinriggle@ioc.exchange
       2025-10-19T10:16:25Z
       
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       @futurebird Again observationally, people won't even pay for better results.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMdNzBOqDRtuTgOiu by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-10-19T10:25:49Z
       
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       @kevinriggle It's very nice translation and spellchecking software and it can make funny images.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMej6JjbuwG4YDJdA by timo21@mastodon.sdf.org
       2025-10-19T10:40:41Z
       
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       @futurebird perhaps it is one of those AI hands with either 3 or 14 fingers?
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMfeHo7YyccDMh8fA by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-10-19T10:51:12Z
       
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       @timo21 Listen. Hands are HARD. The next update will address this I'm certain.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMfrRsbQT3lDZ4EwC by mavu@mastodon.social
       2025-10-19T10:53:30Z
       
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       @futurebird the thing is, the one hand is in someone's pocket, and the other hand is at the end of a shoulder that shrugs.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMg11Nco1DzvV8t7Y by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-10-19T10:55:18Z
       
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       @mavu Which one is the famous "invisible hand"?I worry a lot about the "invisible hand" everyone says it's wonderful but the only thing I can think of with invisible hands are ghosts and aren't ghosts scary?
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMh0TZ2dGBz0DmnsO by petealexharris@mastodon.scot
       2025-10-19T11:06:24Z
       
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       @futurebird @mavu "Where's that Hand of the Market that's supposed to be fixing these egregious problems clearly caused by market incentives?""It's invisible, trust me bro"
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMjBx6nKKjLj7Ar3o by llewelly@sauropods.win
       2025-10-19T11:30:54Z
       
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       @futurebird as far as I can tell, microsoft has already shifted to "charge people for *not* using it". And I suspect there are enough other companies going that direction to make it the overall industry direction.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMjMchrWQ8TdUbI6i by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-10-19T11:32:50Z
       
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       @llewelly This is hell.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMjeLdFk6SHtRtd0C by Flisty@mstdn.social
       2025-10-19T11:33:28Z
       
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       @CppGuy @futurebird even the people that make it don't know what it's for. "We've invented this thing that's hugely inefficient and expensive to use, and we don't know why, but if we hype it up massively, make it free, and make it seem like The Future Is Robots maybe people will invent a use for it that we can monetise?"
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMjeNEVn3qwrIKtiS by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-10-19T11:35:58Z
       
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       @Flisty @CppGuy I've already agreed that I like the "talking spellchecker" ... is it supposed to be more than that?Of course I used to be able to use google like a talking spellcheker but now it over-corrects and redirects what I type so aggressively it can't do that anymore. So I suppose we need all those data centers to replace the broken search engines. :((I'm being silly if it isn't obvious)
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMjrLAOmgHmDMaxvc by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-10-19T11:38:24Z
       
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       @Flisty @CppGuy This is a bit in the tone of "the cupholder" (but the cupholder was punctually useful for other things...)
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMk3zw12GDK84u3zk by sjcooke66@mastodon.social
       2025-10-19T11:40:37Z
       
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       @futurebird 💯
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMkEc7RvCKdS5JUAa by Flisty@mstdn.social
       2025-10-19T11:42:33Z
       
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       @futurebird @CppGuy I am old enough to remember spellcheck being The Editor Replacer. Turns out it has only fully replaced copyeditors in low-margin publishing, with bad results. Everywhere else it's Just Another Tool, as is Excel over handwritten spreadsheets. It will increase productivity when used with expertise, but it will also increase capacity to make big errors. A run-of-the-mill competence multiplier like all the other office tools we have.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMpV3zSZ4C8ITEtjU by 8000mark@social.tchncs.de
       2025-10-19T12:41:32Z
       
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       @futurebird This sounds like an argument for an economy of scale. Something not a single player in the AI space has figured out how to do, though.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMsnVXPBLbwoDbTsG by MedeaVanamonde@beige.party
       2025-10-19T13:18:27Z
       
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       @futurebird @mavu And The Wrong Hand.Or Hands.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMst2m924CpLG8ay8 by PizzaDemon@mastodon.online
       2025-10-19T13:19:28Z
       
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       @futurebird reminds me of this... which is also not entirely real tech
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMt6kgX5alvI037EO by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-10-19T13:22:01Z
       
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       @PizzaDemon When I was at a little bookstore up in Halifax I found a book from The Museum of Jurassic Technology and I was deeply confused by if it was real or not. It was an old looking book and claimed to be from the 1930s a catalog of the Museum with descriptions of the offerings. I decided NOT to look it up and just see what I could make of the object itself. I got about halfway in before I realized "Artists did this."Magnificent!
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMtNAQn8L3flyVv1s by ReverendMoose@mas.to
       2025-10-19T13:24:56Z
       
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       @futurebird @mavu I always think of that hand from the first Zelda, and that thing was terrifying.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMtNYxZw5Xrqc2RSy by llewelly@sauropods.win
       2025-10-19T13:24:56Z
       
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       @futurebird @PizzaDemon I have conflicted feelings about it, because I've met so  many people whose knowledge of the actual Jurassic, and of biology and history in general, is so bad they'd have no idea it wasn't intended to be scientifically true.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMtW0UHTPSfXUMRY8 by evan@cosocial.ca
       2025-10-19T13:26:33Z
       
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       @futurebird @PizzaDemon you should visit! It's amazing.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMtcvgVjD9GfeNlfk by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-10-19T13:27:49Z
       
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       @llewelly @PizzaDemon I was so disappointed that the deeply eccentric west coast "intellectuals" that the book implied didn't really exist. I wanted to imagine them having a seance in the Winchester mansion to better understand billion year old motors.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMtzm9tJQ0pmp1E3c by lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net
       2025-10-19T13:31:53Z
       
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       @futurebird You're aware of the "Silurian hypothesis" ?@PizzaDemon
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMvDkJJ528y3xeFe4 by PizzaDemon@mastodon.online
       2025-10-19T13:43:18Z
       
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       @lienrag @futurebird first aware of it from the old Doctor Who episode
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMvDlbQHAEG4R8EWO by lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net
       2025-10-19T13:43:48Z
       
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       @PizzaDemon AFAIK that's where it took its name from.@futurebird
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMvDmQ7EgmKbeqiXI by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-10-19T13:45:39Z
       
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       @lienrag @PizzaDemon The Museum of Jurassic Technology took it's name from the "Silurian hypothesis" or Dr. Who did?Confused.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMvFJQ420BVF0YW92 by llewelly@sauropods.win
       2025-10-19T13:45:58Z
       
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       @futurebird @PizzaDemon I got caught in the tar pit of trying to figure out what paleontological sites a Los Angeles based organization would be physically nearby.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMvJshum1cJqK5Gl6 by lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net
       2025-10-19T13:46:44Z
       
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       @futurebird Not sure whether you're joking or not, but the Silurian Hypothesis (which is a serious scientific question) took its name from the Doctor Who episode.@PizzaDemon
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMvKdqjV3b63HZTWq by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-10-19T13:46:51Z
       
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       @llewelly @PizzaDemon I love the tar pits! Can't get enough of them.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMvPY1uZ5AdRz8h9s by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-10-19T13:47:49Z
       
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       @lienrag @PizzaDemon Ah!I wasn't kidding. But I don't think The Museum of Jurassic Technology has much to do with the Silurian Hypothesis. They are something much more deeply surreal.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMvc4msbBpIWN5A6S by paco@infosec.exchange
       2025-10-19T11:52:00Z
       
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       @Flisty I was just watching a video (that could have been a blog post) on the accountability paradox. They never tell you what it is for, because the minute they do that there’s criteria for success, failure, good, bad. So they just kinda say “here it is, take it as is and go find great uses for it.” But they never say “great uses like X, which it is really good at” because they can’t.(Apologies if one of you put that video in my feed yesterday, and here I am telling about it today! I do that sometimes.)@CppGuy @futurebird
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMvc63ZsamGSRu0lk by Flisty@mstdn.social
       2025-10-19T11:54:16Z
       
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       @paco @CppGuy @futurebird add to that "in the future, it will be able to do X" which is essential Muskology
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMvc7G1PoKGBKjSnw by Flisty@mstdn.social
       2025-10-19T13:48:25Z
       
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       @paco @CppGuy @futurebird so far only Elizabeth Holmes has been punished for this practice, but it's absolutely the same thing that Musk and Altman do.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMvc8H7dCnfL2Fr9s by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-10-19T13:50:00Z
       
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       @Flisty @paco @CppGuy Feels sexist and yet also hard to get mad about.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMvdq7Y6G7rc2ahxA by Flisty@mstdn.social
       2025-10-19T13:50:24Z
       
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       @futurebird @paco @CppGuy I get mad that it's *only* her, not that it's *her*.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMvvtAPVsIyGxXIGm by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-10-19T13:53:40Z
       
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       "The video generation tools often fail to deliver usable material that correctly meets the prompt or that respects three dimensional geometry and object permanence... but, on the other hand, thousands of gallons of drinking water are used to produce every five second clip."
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMw3YjbMdgvDeebZI by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-10-19T13:55:03Z
       
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       When discussing new technology it's important to consider Both Sides.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMwCPpFr9Q4CAWN6G by darkling@mstdn.social
       2025-10-19T13:56:37Z
       
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       @futurebird As the owner of the local water monopoly, I fully support your highlighting of these important points.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMwG4dOaRoRd7ibdA by Flisty@mstdn.social
       2025-10-19T13:57:16Z
       
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       @futurebird I watched this from @adamconover yesterday https://youtu.be/55Z4cg5Fyu4 where he says they've calculated that every Sora clip costs $5 to generate. Insane.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMy8eD4dNVbYaze6K by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-10-19T14:17:22Z
       
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       @u0421793 @mavu @doctormo 🙁
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMyRZ8hi5zPKiyDdw by llewelly@sauropods.win
       2025-10-19T14:21:48Z
       
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       @futurebird well, for most of the first century of movies, object permanence was at best an inconvenient side effect of the need for physical sets and physical models. Then along came CGI ...
       
 (DIR) Post #AzMzsCRqHfKajLBas4 by llewelly@sauropods.win
       2025-10-19T14:37:48Z
       
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       @futurebird ai was invented because global warming wasn't making deserts fast enough.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzN0QTTlTAVTOfQdOK by Moss@beige.party
       2025-10-19T14:43:57Z
       
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       @futurebird @lienrag @PizzaDemon FWIW, the museum itself is a real place, with physically-existing exhibits, worth a visit.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzN12sY0iJeS9Kj94i by haloedrain@toot.cafe
       2025-10-19T14:50:54Z
       
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       @futurebird @PizzaDemon I want to defend California here, but on the other hand I didn’t realize the San Jose Rosicrucian Museum was a weird thing to have until I described childhood field trips there to my husband and he was like “wait, *Rosicrucian*??”
       
 (DIR) Post #AzN5jmD2YRYKlDd4Pg by RnDanger@infosec.exchange
       2025-10-19T15:43:30Z
       
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       @futurebird "but on the other hand demand is artificially high"
       
 (DIR) Post #AzN7Qw5hn3ktoYLHBQ by chris@mastodon.chrispelli.fun
       2025-10-19T16:02:28Z
       
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       @futurebird the bubble will burst as soon as they are trying to really monetize it. The "awe" phase is mostly over. Some people (mostly software devs) have found some use for it. But pretty much no one will pay what it really costs. Most people use it because it's free or cheap. But that's the most that the majority will pay.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzNAXBRRvgD51XBRLc by bogosity@im-in.space
       2025-10-19T16:37:09Z
       
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       @futurebird When you talk about AI "art" you should also consider the third hand. "On the other other hand, there are three hands!"
       
 (DIR) Post #AzOOBXVUnsuFbTbr5k by p4@masto.ai
       2025-10-20T06:44:54Z
       
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       @futurebird @timo21 metaverse couldn't do legs, AI can't do hands. Which extremity will spell the doom of the next tech bubble?
       
 (DIR) Post #AzPmzORRNIVa1ayfyK by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-10-20T22:57:35Z
       
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       @PizzaDemon Here is the book!It’s an amazing artifact.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzPwGJMcPFHomprdiq by tobinbaker@discuss.systems
       2025-10-21T00:41:24Z
       
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       @futurebird @PizzaDemon the museum is an amazing piece of performance art. I hope the Borzoi is still there up in the tea room guarding the samovar.