Post AzFm8j14Cn8SuIvbs0 by snappler@poa.st
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(DIR) Post #AzDc2AAtRd8NFjpwvo by WandererUber@poa.st
2025-10-15T01:58:21.924961Z
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"Climate change is a big problem, actually""Pssh, you another librul who wants to ban cows?""No.""Let's hear it then.""It's simple. We, uh, kill all the Indians."
(DIR) Post #AzDcCMqvACH9T6MRBQ by Fash-E@poa.st
2025-10-15T02:00:12.399453Z
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@WandererUber We need a campaign to show environmentalists how much pajeets litter, especially into rivers
(DIR) Post #AzDcGMWGLP6laqbRPk by Fash-E@poa.st
2025-10-15T02:00:55.845475Z
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@WandererUber Killing them will cut down global pollution by like two thirds
(DIR) Post #AzDcWCMHtEcGiHULCa by occasionalbangers@poa.st
2025-10-15T02:02:18.149111Z
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@Fash-E @WandererUber Indonesia is a big polluter as well.
(DIR) Post #AzDcWDsaEe2nQjbeBE by blankdeblank@nicecrew.digital
2025-10-15T02:03:46.452336Z
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So is brazil
(DIR) Post #AzDcWqFFaokqQ2VHmq by WandererUber@poa.st
2025-10-15T02:03:53.768579Z
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@Dudebro @Fash-E I will vaporize the terror cuboid you are trying to turn the world into and then I will watch bears roam the overgrown ruins.
(DIR) Post #AzDcuKe4jNk3MfJfcm by occasionalbangers@poa.st
2025-10-15T02:04:48.539924Z
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@Fash-E @WandererUber They don't care. Environmentalists don't actually care about the environment, they care about *appearing* to care about the environment. Leftists are status obsessed. They care only about doing things that grant them high status. They could care less if anything actually improves.
(DIR) Post #AzDcuLXNPlyg8BBpp2 by WandererUber@poa.st
2025-10-15T02:08:08.851202Z
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@occasionalbangers @Fash-E If you think this, you don't understand politics. People who care get funneled into politics, and then forced to pick a side. Then they get the carrot dangled in front of them endlessly while nothing gets done on the issue. Otherwise they wouldn't be activated and they wouldn't vote. It's like saying the right doesn't really care about migration, just because the Republicans use it to do something else.Some issues "make progress" over the years, because it is what ZOG wants. Viable climate/environmental action cutting into profits is not what ZOG wants. So nothing changes.A lot of people genuinely care about the environment and among them are lots of people in the sciences and institutions. It's just that solving a problem is intentionally impossible.
(DIR) Post #AzDcwlAX5WpeClei2a by WandererUber@poa.st
2025-10-15T02:08:32.747496Z
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@Dudebro @Fash-E That IS environmentalism and Sierra Club said this for decades until they got muzzled
(DIR) Post #AzDdIyHuzZvfGQhYEC by WandererUber@poa.st
2025-10-15T02:12:34.764143Z
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@Dudebro @Fash-E >performative ones that want a pretty front yard while a child wades in a lithium leech field on the other side of the planet.>performativedidn't you just say you wanted to annihilate all of these children?Besides, I don't particularly feel like it's my responsibility to teach brown people how to handle hazardous materials. I need the lithium.
(DIR) Post #AzDdd5Sg1yTrIuKFcm by WandererUber@poa.st
2025-10-15T02:16:13.741777Z
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@Dudebro @Fash-E I am not paying money to implement that.
(DIR) Post #AzDdnEyJWiWnhAxtlQ by WandererUber@poa.st
2025-10-15T02:18:02.109284Z
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@Dudebro @Fash-E I think a lot of people are going to die if the West stops babying them and I don't particularly care. I don't think actually nuking India is the most efficient use of our resources, what with the fallout and all, but if it was, I don't see the difference between that and just letting them all die. If anything, it would be a mercy.
(DIR) Post #AzDeMNkqrdU14QQPnk by sickburnbro@poa.st
2025-10-15T02:24:25.516607Z
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@WandererUber @Dudebro @Fash-E they took a giant payout to stop making a deal over it ( that letting illegals in was actually bad for the environment )
(DIR) Post #AzDeRphgNVmXCTXemu by sickburnbro@poa.st
2025-10-15T02:25:24.987631Z
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@WandererUber @Dudebro @Fash-E we are still on "we can't stop giving the illegals free healthcare" so I'm not holding my breath yet
(DIR) Post #AzDeXYrtsrtEiy3KV6 by occasionalbangers@poa.st
2025-10-15T02:22:05.481606Z
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@WandererUber @Fash-E That's all great but their passion for the environment will shrivel up as soon as you call them a racist for holding certain views. Their concern for the environment extends only as far as it does not interfere with their reputation.Most people do not truly have beliefs. They simply belong to a group, and adopt whatever that group stands for. Most people do not think very deeply about anything. It is like all those women that said that Charlie Kirk deserved to die, despite not knowing anything about his beliefs. They simply knew that Kirk was "bad," very bad in fact, and so needed to be gotten rid of. Showing such people pictures of India will elicit disgust from them in the moment, but it will not change their fundamental beliefs. They will continue to blame White men for everything. They will not vote for policies to do something about Indian pollution, and they will continue to vote to cripple the West with environmental restrictions. Only if you change the minds of leaders on these issues will your average environmentalist become concerned about third-world pollution as much or more than they do about that of the West.
(DIR) Post #AzDeXa1VadAaJ3YW7E by WandererUber@poa.st
2025-10-15T02:26:26.460790Z
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@occasionalbangers @Fash-E That wasn't your initial point, I know all this, and nothing I've said should have given you any indication you needed to post this at me.If you need to ascribe labels to lemmings, go ahead. Actual smart people with beliefs get memed into the system and those were the ones I was talking about here. Some retard with an in-group and a flavor of the week cause does not interest me in the slightest.In addition, your text lacks any statement motivating why I should even care about these people's opinion, and or why your prior statement, which was about what they do or do not care about, was at all relevant to my interest.I know they're slaves. I know they do as they're told. Why would I care then?
(DIR) Post #AzDg2YwtjZwZuCjjoO by feralphilosophernc@nicecrew.digital
2025-10-15T02:43:15.052159Z
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"Go on.""About what? That's literally it."
(DIR) Post #AzDg6v05gmvXSIJ6H2 by feralphilosophernc@nicecrew.digital
2025-10-15T02:44:01.450494Z
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>we are not the same
(DIR) Post #AzDiLBZF5eNSncgD9k by egirlyuumimain@poa.st
2025-10-15T03:09:02.212129Z
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@Fash-E @WandererUber This is why I dont take environmentalists seriously
(DIR) Post #AzDjRZNpYWaCM3wy1o by WandererUber@poa.st
2025-10-15T03:21:23.780826Z
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@sickburnbro @Dudebro @Fash-E part of early environmentalism comes from studying ecology, which leads to natural conclusions about the carrying capacity of any given ecosystem. What I'm getting at was that them saying it is second-order from "if we don't, the ecosystem will reach it's maximum and then collapse" which will happen no matter what these people argue about. Look around you! Already is.
(DIR) Post #AzDk7iNUVLuUPgt5m4 by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
2025-10-15T03:29:00.381151Z
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@WandererUber @sickburnbro @Dudebro @Fash-E You can kick the can down the road if progress is potentially being made towards solutions for the problem you’re preventing. We did that for like the past 80 years in America, but it’s pretty clear we can’t do it another 80.
(DIR) Post #AzDkzYhmgRWY3G3Qps by WandererUber@poa.st
2025-10-15T03:38:44.338422Z
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@BowsacNoodle @sickburnbro @Dudebro @Fash-E I think that there are also other limits than straight up resources. Human society (:joker:) operates in more realms than that and that complexity needs to be sustained somehow. The rules work similarly though so it's comparable. Even if innovation allows the West to technically 10x output again, which it might, other factors will lead to collapse long before that. But that's beside my original point, so yeah.
(DIR) Post #AzDlYkaoTgSD3VZfuK by skylar@misskey.yandere.love
2025-10-15T03:45:04.104079Z
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@WandererUber hot take climate change is real but a total nothing burgerit's like the kind of thing you'd watch a 40 minute youtube documentary on because it's an interesting science concept but it doesn't really affect anyone's life outside of civil engineering for projects with very long service lives
(DIR) Post #AzDlkvOs7cVg36nIcC by WandererUber@poa.st
2025-10-15T03:47:18.279784Z
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@skylar Debatable. Probably affects US more than Europe, since that's mostly temperate and doesn't get hurricanes.And a lot of white people care about ecosystems too, like coral reefs and the arctic etc
(DIR) Post #AzDmJCIHokscI33XsG by skylar@misskey.yandere.love
2025-10-15T03:53:22.856785Z
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@WandererUber ain't no waywe're used to chaotic weather, while the bri'ish simply start dying when exposed to a beautiful 75 degree sunny day or an inch of snow
(DIR) Post #AzEQ71irIC1qC9EjD7 by WhitestTemplar@poa.st
2025-10-15T11:19:29.820844Z
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@WandererUber
(DIR) Post #AzEQGueSR9k5A0tMxM by WhitestTemplar@poa.st
2025-10-15T11:20:52.291976Z
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@Dudebro @Fash-E @WandererUber Yes, but it's really the wrong populations declining. It should be brownoids and Whites and most East Asians should maintain their populations.
(DIR) Post #AzEQUMjxJbgk2ZsXJY by WhitestTemplar@poa.st
2025-10-15T11:23:42.876627Z
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@WandererUber @Dudebro @Fash-E If you are going to build a city, that is the most efficient way to build it. Even the Romans did it that way, though their buildings actually looked nice and there was a lot less light pollution.
(DIR) Post #AzFAb2T9fzy35d8kvg by Alex1488@poa.st
2025-10-15T19:05:51.306253Z
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@feralphilosophernc @WandererUber Throw in a nice chunk of China and we'd actually get somewhere with the global pollution.
(DIR) Post #AzFQwYznXNJpJhh6uW by Alex1488@poa.st
2025-10-15T19:09:16.681742Z
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@skylar @WandererUber I'm of the mind that it's the sun's natural heat cycle, combined with the fact we're still at the end of an ice age (interglacial period, look it up) and the Earth is therefore naturally heating up. It should therefore naturally start to cool off again in a few thousand years from now.
(DIR) Post #AzFQwaFmrPhdDaBOTI by WandererUber@poa.st
2025-10-15T23:03:30.878831Z
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@Alex1488 @skylar Is that really being of any mind or have you just read that somewhere and it was more comfortable than agreeing with liberals on anything, so you never bothered to look up the fundamentals of the greenhouse effect and how we know
(DIR) Post #AzFjTQmWtcKCZZJIQq by Alex1488@poa.st
2025-10-15T23:14:32.543482Z
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@WandererUber @skylar I'm not sure what you mean with "being of any mind" or whatever, but if you're asking if that's something I've thought about, then yes. 🤷♂️ It's a pretty reasonable explanation.
(DIR) Post #AzFjTSC5e4Mgx8HDua by WandererUber@poa.st
2025-10-16T02:31:08.710945Z
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@Alex1488 Yes, just some dumb wordplay on "of THE mind">It's a reasonable explanationOne can doubt specific climate predictions all day long, but negating the greenhouse effect itself gets unreasonable pretty fast.For any given solar power level, when the atmosphere contains a bigger fraction of a gas that traps heat very efficiently, it gets warmer. Were the sun to output more, it would get warmer still. One factor being true doesn't make the other disappear.And if you ask the people who found out about solar activity and measured it's cycles, and whom you're happy to believe on that front, they say right now it's not the sun doing it.https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/causes/
(DIR) Post #AzFjxZJ3lYHLhOteTo by sickburnbro@poa.st
2025-10-16T02:36:35.729865Z
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@WandererUber @Alex1488 One should never trust any temperature graph from post the 1980s. Once global warming became "settled science" the records were manipulated in unfortunately big ways. The Climate Audit people proved this with Mann beyond any possible doubt.On top of this, the quality of the terrestrial data is currently so poor, it's not worth using, but without it, it's hard to make any kind of analysis that extends any amount of timte.
(DIR) Post #AzFlMMPUwzj0tcIH5M by WandererUber@poa.st
2025-10-16T02:52:17.237143Z
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@sickburnbro @Alex1488 The graph was just the cherry on top and I posted it in a specific context. I'm not one to dismiss skepticism out of hand so once I hear of something like that, I'll look into it. But I haven't yet, and "it was deboonked" isn't an argument by itself. Since the topic is interesting to me, and I always ask people for their best arguments against climate change, I'll read probably everything they did. Regardless of that, this isn't an objection to the effect in principle. The basics of that are so simple that physicists did their first calculations of this effect virtually on a napkin as a conversation piece in the 1800s. One would have to explain how it could not be true, since the physical effects that make it work are so well understood (absorption spectra, radiant heat transfer, etc)The second paragraph is just a restatement of the first argument.Both don't really address my primary argument, and unlike you, Alex doesn't doubt that temperatures are rising. He merely said that of rose in response to solar activity, so even if we're nitpicking the graph, the solar activity is the relevant one in this context.
(DIR) Post #AzFm8j14Cn8SuIvbs0 by snappler@poa.st
2025-10-16T02:45:37.933635Z
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@WandererUber @Alex1488 I only have two real contentions on the climate change thing:1. There are non-anthropogenic sources that are as or more likely to be contributory that we do not understand well, if at all (deep-ocean temperature cycles and long-term atmospheric water vapor shifts we have no reliable way to measure)2. The overconfidence in predictive models that fail locally as is coupled with the general insistence that our understanding of things like ice core and tree ring data are workable on global scales to within error rates ~0.1C.The second seems patently absurd on its face, but that's where the alarmists and "consensus" are on things with journal editors refusing to entertain anything skeptical as far as I've heard. A lot of the discarded concepts are operating on geologic timescales and have been dismissed either out of overconfidence or out of our abject inability to ever have truly solid data on them.Yes, green house gas does exactly what the name implies, but water vapor traps far more heat then CO2 and can be explained by, potentially, higher greenhouse gases in the atmosphere (numbers we don't have meaningful long term historical data on) or by heat cycles in the ocean or other forms of greenhouse, subterranian, or oceanic activity we don't understand well (volcanoes are on that come to mind but I'm sure have been ruled out).Regardless, the outcomes from global warming are generally fairly slow (geologic scale), we don't have good reason to believe there would be more extreme weather events because we have no data one way or another, and even then they can be worked around with our present level of technology (assuming we don't do a heckin' societal collapse before then).Personally, I am still all for less volatile forms of energy generation, especially renewable ones, because I think better solutions are still better solutions, even if things like batteries and solar and all those have rare earth mineral and component reuse/recapture concerns.
(DIR) Post #AzFm8kbcINxxpx2JTk by WandererUber@poa.st
2025-10-16T03:01:01.030305Z
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@snappler @Alex1488 water vapor content of the atmosphere is downstream of other factors of atmospheric temperature and couples to it. A warmer atmosphere absorbs more vapor, getting still warmer in the process. It reaches equilibrium all else being equal. There is no reason to believe it rises randomly "just so" to explain this temperature increase.In any case, the causality is backwards because scientists didn't go fake scramble for explanations after they decided to fake tree ring data to fake a trend of rising temperatures. Physicists modeled the greenhouse effect long before that and the temperature measurements in recent history are evidence in support. Doubting their validity is one thing, but that's not what Alex thinks. He says temperatures ARE rising but its not the greenhouse effect.
(DIR) Post #AzFmPmEPVKrNnmIguu by sickburnbro@poa.st
2025-10-16T03:04:06.355380Z
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@WandererUber @Alex1488 So you know where that temperature data comes from and are willing to vouch for it then?
(DIR) Post #AzFn17DkQgrXc6nLmq by WandererUber@poa.st
2025-10-16T03:10:51.376928Z
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@sickburnbro @Alex1488 That's your conclusion to me making the effort of this response? I thought we were past the point of you trying these gotchas on me.No that wasn't the point at all. The point of posting this data was in response to Alex, who doesn't disagree with me on temperature rise in the first place, just on the cause. But I bet you have some data that shows temperatures are... uh falling? staying the same? Idk but surely you have something. But I'd like to stay on what I was discussing in the first place, which were effect fundamentals for atmospheric temperature equilibrium. there are a few well understood effects at play there, one of which is the greenhouse effect. It's not unreasonable to say that a system as complex as Earth's won't have other effects at play, but fud over data isn't an alternative explanation, especially not without any experimental verification for itself either
(DIR) Post #AzFnwZRk9wXHf0jp8C by sickburnbro@poa.st
2025-10-16T03:21:14.369500Z
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@WandererUber @Alex1488 Yes there are lots of things that are needed for temperature equilibrium, I think one of the less commonly talked about is heat transfer into the ocean, and even less common, deep water temps.The most you'll usually see is sea ice coverage, which had a dip a decade ago, but is iirc a little on the higher side of historical average right now.
(DIR) Post #AzFogCTJuVjtj8EWqu by petra@poa.st
2025-10-16T03:29:29.397568Z
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@sickburnbro @WandererUber @Alex1488 Ask him to show his calculations. He likes that. 😄
(DIR) Post #AzFpETbGjbjeh9INlY by WandererUber@poa.st
2025-10-16T03:35:40.952768Z
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@sickburnbro @Alex1488 Off the top of my head, deep water should be downstream from all this, just because of the different scales involved. Air temp changes on the day-to-day scale. Even on the open ocean, temperatures rise and fall with the sun. The deep ocean has so much thermal mass compared to the transfer surface that it's effect should be minimal. My recent convos all seem to lead back to Fourier's law lolIt would be an interesting uni exam question to discuss and estimate this.
(DIR) Post #AzGi1MsxsnstaIKpQe by James_Dixon@poa.st
2025-10-16T13:27:46.483026Z
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@WandererUber @sickburnbro @Alex1488 > and I always ask people for their best arguments against climate change,There is no argument against climate change. The climate is always changing.The argument is against "AGW", anthropogenic global warming. And the arguments saying it's happening have been conclusively demonstrated to be false. None of their predicted events have happened.
(DIR) Post #AzGkpW6Q5X2GYefWts by sickburnbro@poa.st
2025-10-16T14:21:03.461712Z
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@WandererUber @Alex1488 yes, obviously it's something that you can model at some level of correctness as that, but because it's so big and water is weird, it *seems* to have some possibly odd behavior.An example is how you have themaclines. In theory you'd expect one nice gradient of temperature.