Post AzApeimvutAJXTSyES by michal@toot.kottman.xyz
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(DIR) Post #AzAmkvhWWKUBSiCki0 by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2025-10-13T17:14:21Z
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Do I know a mechanical keyboard nerd who knows all these post-Cherry switches?I know that I like Cherry MX Blue, but it's hard to find a large keyboard with these these days.Should I look into switches from other manufacturers?Are there any that are designed to feel the same as MX Blue, so that I could buy a keyboard with them blind, without first trying them out?Was there a technological progress such that the newer switches are objectively better than the original Cherry MX ?
(DIR) Post #AzAomXjEotLnbIu5cu by pony@blovice.bahnhof.cz
2025-10-13T17:37:02.521938Z
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@wolf480pl You don't because they kinda suck. You think you do and you will and then you will try something else and realize you were wrong. But that kinda doesn't matter I guess, everyone has to try.I got a box of Akko Creamy Cyan somewhere, the force diagram looks very similar and they do feel similar (bad). They can be easily purchased in the EU, full keyboard shouldn't cost you too much.You can look for other switches, keyword these days would be clicky ig, there will be very few options. (This is also assuming you want just switches and not full keyboard with them, which may not really be possible these days anymore.)
(DIR) Post #AzAovJask3tyMvB680 by p@raru.re
2025-10-13T17:38:35Z
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I use browns with rubber o-rings @wolf480pl
(DIR) Post #AzApGQwQcRvDEoKHwm by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2025-10-13T17:42:27Z
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@pony I think I want a full keyboard, ideally a mass-produced one.So knowing which switches I'll be ok with and which I won't would be very valuable...Anyway, what do you think is the problem with MX blue's force diagram and what's an example of a switch that solves it?
(DIR) Post #AzApeimvutAJXTSyES by michal@toot.kottman.xyz
2025-10-13T17:46:17Z
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@wolf480pl I bought this Cherry / Kailh / Gateron sampler (blue, brown, red, black).At this point I don't know which is which.
(DIR) Post #AzApjiumsBe1NbWcVs by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2025-10-13T17:47:37Z
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@p not enough keys :(
(DIR) Post #AzAppKPyrfmH8pmvoG by p@raru.re
2025-10-13T17:48:43Z
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for realz?I'm using TKL :\@wolf480pl
(DIR) Post #AzApx5RiPjy11VIbnE by pony@blovice.bahnhof.cz
2025-10-13T17:50:09.084605Z
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@wolf480pl you can buy a mass produced kit without switches and caps and provide them separately, though pricing and shipping may combine in a way it could be better to just get some off shelf basic keyboard (could be even akko) and just strip it, dunno (you'd not need the keycaps), full size is yet another choice that is not on top of the favors, but that's another thingthing with cherry mx blue is the click doesn't add much, it's a part that cannot be really lubricated, it's... well, arguably maybe a matter of choice, but i don't know anyone who tried a decent non clicky tactiles who would regret it... personally i also don't really love how these clickies are very light at first and the force bump is at bottom, like you already pressed the key decisively enough and yet you get an extra resistance?
(DIR) Post #AzAqJrvepuu5lGASUy by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2025-10-13T17:54:17Z
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@p I use a Razer BlackWidow (last year with Cherry switches, looks like the one in the picture) and of those macro keys on the left, I use two, and have ideas what I could do with the rest.
(DIR) Post #AzAqQoOaN7XepV0dHs by p@raru.re
2025-10-13T17:55:30Z
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looks like my microsoft sidewinder keyboard which I have as a backup here somewhere@wolf480pl
(DIR) Post #AzAqWkpaXNnhVoTOT2 by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2025-10-13T17:56:37Z
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@pony the force bump is not at the bottom tho? It's somewhere in the middle. I can definitely get past the bump without bottoming out, and when un-pressing, move to the next key before the current one is completely released.
(DIR) Post #AzAqZswip2mJY7IpWK by p@raru.re
2025-10-13T17:56:43Z
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you can get numpads on their own too, maybe that could work for the macro keys?@wolf480pl
(DIR) Post #AzAqZtzwuWxCoPovBo by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2025-10-13T17:57:09Z
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@p and remap them in the kernel to emit non-numapd keycodes? Maybe...
(DIR) Post #AzAqcV3O6uMsJhfROy by p@raru.re
2025-10-13T17:57:37Z
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last resort type thingI don't see so many kbs with that many keys@wolf480pl
(DIR) Post #AzAqlhdEiLj9vwp7Pk by pony@blovice.bahnhof.cz
2025-10-13T17:59:17.636696Z
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@wolf480pl hm possibly, must admit that while i have a box of those switches, i was so disappointed with them that i just replaced them after a week or so
(DIR) Post #AzAqs2QOJtxy9upuSG by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2025-10-13T18:00:27Z
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@p there's Razer BlackWidow v4, but that one has Razer Green switches - no idea if they're any good.Or I could get a keboard without macro keys and maybe find some keys on it I don't use and remap those... like right ctrl, right shift, pause/break, etc.But those keyboards that try to be narrower than standard are a no-go for me :/
(DIR) Post #AzArnFHVBxQAXUxOXw by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2025-10-13T18:10:48Z
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@pony I guess I should try some tactile non-clicky... btw. are all mechanical switches pinout-compatible?
(DIR) Post #AzAsArB4Sc9yjVCvmC by pony@blovice.bahnhof.cz
2025-10-13T18:15:02.660947Z
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@wolf480pl generally yes... of course, there are other considerations, like the low profile ones may not fit the plate, but you don't need to be much afraid to get any random switch
(DIR) Post #AzAuC15jHok9g6OEoC by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2025-10-13T18:37:40Z
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@pony https://allegro.pl/oferta/klawiatura-keychron-v6-max-wireless-czarny-17817250018🤔
(DIR) Post #AzAuY7PyRey1fcOkZE by p@raru.re
2025-10-13T18:41:38Z
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I go @wolf480pl
(DIR) Post #AzAuf6cLor9HDOWFTU by pony@blovice.bahnhof.cz
2025-10-13T18:42:54.995564Z
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@wolf480pl i see a fully built at 589, now 200 is a significant difference especially if you were not to use the switches, but given the logistics, i'd think about it, switches are almost never sold individually so you you'd need to overbuy to provision an entire full size keyboard (there is like going to be maybe 90-piece set) and also you have to buy keycaps, those can be very inexpensive, but then they are not very good, the ones that come with keychrons are usually nice
(DIR) Post #AzAuwIhW9AgDc78QWe by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2025-10-13T18:46:03Z
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@pAt least you have a normal nav cluster. If I didn't have to type in 2FA codes I'd consider one like that.
(DIR) Post #AzAv3wsv8tRaGk7E6i by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2025-10-13T18:47:26Z
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@ponybut aren't the stock keycaps for this keyboard space-cadet-shaped (as in, very rounded corners)?
(DIR) Post #AzAv6aVsmASfkmb8y0 by pony@blovice.bahnhof.cz
2025-10-13T18:47:51.403651Z
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@wolf480pl yeah... guess you don't want that if you don't want that :)
(DIR) Post #AzAvyJvwdPWxyDPUY4 by p@raru.re
2025-10-13T18:57:35Z
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gotta have home rowI feel naked without it@wolf480pl
(DIR) Post #AzBCujPpeKZb41GRFY by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2025-10-13T22:07:27Z
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@pony speaking of non-clicky tactile, are Razer Green any good?If so, I could get Blackwidow V4 with these switches, and if I end up not liking them, then replace them with Gateron Blue...
(DIR) Post #AzBCycgqb4NjMa4vjM by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2025-10-13T22:08:09Z
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@pony or wait, are Razer Green clicky?
(DIR) Post #AzBwMDeFqiHmaJUWwq by pony@blovice.bahnhof.cz
2025-10-14T06:36:38.268746Z
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@wolf480pl looks like it, yes, though they also look ancient and the prices i see (1000 czk for 15-pack? srsly?) are crazy