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(DIR) Post #Az1t2pWx3Gqyq6XURc by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-10-09T10:12:22Z
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Making a 20 second AI generated video doesn't take twice as much energy as a 10 second video. It takes 4 times as much. This is because the whole video needs to strive for coherence and the size of the data set that determines the next frame keeps expanding like a polynomial. At least it's not exponential, right?Could all of the compute in the world even now even make a two hour movie?
(DIR) Post #Az1tF5tw0moh5T8Zma by Alon@mastodon.social
2025-10-09T10:14:32Z
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@futurebird I asked on Bluesky, and was told that gen AI has a problem with coherent physics, which is why it can't make complete films yet. (It may be able to do frame interpolation, but so far I haven't seen artists work with it, instead of managers try to use it to eliminate artists.)
(DIR) Post #Az1tHVM6LOsebySfs8 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-10-09T10:15:01Z
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This is the same problem I ran into with LLMs. An LLM can't process an entire novel with the care and attention to detail it might manage for a paragraph (and the quality of the paragraphs is already limited)The exciting thing about machines is how they can automate large tasks. But, making "full sized" media seems to remain out of reach even many years into this exciting revolution.
(DIR) Post #Az1u2lROMC4E6rTGu8 by khleedril@cyberplace.social
2025-10-09T10:23:28Z
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@futurebird Of all the people on Earth, is any one moronic enough to watch a two hour AI-generated movie?
(DIR) Post #Az1y6W7vdS5pabPd8i by noplasticshower@infosec.exchange
2025-10-09T11:09:01Z
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@futurebird this goes double for writing code piles. Big picture is a disaster and the "failing hard" will come at maintenance time. 'Big" being set at 10,000 lines is way way way too small. AI is about to learn the lesson the microservices guys already (kinda) learned.
(DIR) Post #Az1yIn8GEfX1o0Q8oK by noplasticshower@infosec.exchange
2025-10-09T11:11:15Z
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@futurebird just pointing out that 2*2 is about the same as 2^2 if you are sitting still on the curve
(DIR) Post #Az27xYsx0diT50m73A by barrygoldman1@sauropods.win
2025-10-09T12:59:27Z
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@futurebird actuly.. the resources it DOES take humans to make a movie I might watch 1 or 3 times boggles my mind. I've always thought those efforts shld go to making a school museum dance... kinda thing instead
(DIR) Post #Az28V5eIDSISFauGLA by michael_w_busch@mastodon.online
2025-10-09T12:19:35Z
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@Alon @futurebird The various image generators now being promoted as "AI" do not have any internal representation of physics or geometry at all.They can never make images or animations that respect those things except incidentally.All they do is approximate "words to image cube" based on the data fed into them.(Nor is making an animation that respects physics the same as making a film, of course.)
(DIR) Post #Az28V6XEvAFV00c8zA by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-10-09T13:05:31Z
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@michael_w_busch @Alon And these people keep saying this part, the physics, the structure, the logic will be trivial to just tack on at any moment but it just keeps on NOT happening.But every 101 level programming class teaches there are three kinds of programming errors:1. syntax (won’t compile)2. runtime (won’t run)3. And? The hardest to fix? Logical.Wow. It can fix the first two. Wow. Amazing.
(DIR) Post #Az28mvmLeRuEqrBJRo by gbargoud@masto.nyc
2025-10-09T13:08:44Z
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@futurebird @michael_w_busch @Alon A comment that stands out from one of the first programming classes I took was the teacher saying something like "you want to see a program that compiles perfectly fine" and then emptying the file out