Post Az0LgPKIJ3FXYJML2m by c7eadcf0d03595f681003d0053266729d54882444e0789d80d539b687821e562@mostr.pub
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(DIR) Post #AyzA9zKg7cVh0tuxsG by 3f770d65d3a764a9c5cb503ae123e62ec7598ad035d836e2a810f3877a745b24@mostr.pub
2025-10-07T16:36:23.000Z
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Additional Web of Trust and community moderation tools need to be explored and developed.
(DIR) Post #AyzAA0xi3zKG4FBeLo by amerika@annihilation.social
2025-10-08T02:39:04.322299Z
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@3f770d65d3a764a9c5cb503ae123e62ec7598ad035d836e2a810f3877a745b24 No, we need free speech insteadAnd anyone who objects needs to take the needle :)
(DIR) Post #AyzALJiMgMZbPeOnFw by ube@spergia.net
2025-10-08T02:41:19.435987Z
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@amerika @3f770d65d3a764a9c5cb503ae123e62ec7598ad035d836e2a810f3877a745b24 stop giving corporations the same legal rights as people, legal persons is retarded, and they do not deserve free speech but the people do
(DIR) Post #AyzB5QhV2ZeIOsyyKu by freemayonnaise@gigaohm.bio
2025-10-08T02:44:30.161552Z
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Right. Community moderation is jewspeak for censorship and control of narratives and messaging when what should happen is people be forced to learn how to ignore, delete, skip shit they don't like...
(DIR) Post #AyzJ2sY5qOXnXDsSBc by amerika@annihilation.social
2025-10-08T04:19:25.804050Z
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@freemayonnaise @3f770d65d3a764a9c5cb503ae123e62ec7598ad035d836e2a810f3877a745b24 Free speech > all
(DIR) Post #AyzJGdvJ1CwwEEIXIG by amerika@annihilation.social
2025-10-08T04:21:50.818534Z
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@ube @3f770d65d3a764a9c5cb503ae123e62ec7598ad035d836e2a810f3877a745b24 I don't have a problem with corporate personhood.I have a problem with unpunished voters...
(DIR) Post #AyzJLXhfZUfoNyFwFE by ube@spergia.net
2025-10-08T04:22:14.348080Z
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@amerika @3f770d65d3a764a9c5cb503ae123e62ec7598ad035d836e2a810f3877a745b24 bratty little voter needs rape correction! 💢😭💢😭💢😭💢😭💢😭
(DIR) Post #AyzJaVV037wLtPSvKq by amerika@annihilation.social
2025-10-08T04:25:21.087969Z
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@ube @3f770d65d3a764a9c5cb503ae123e62ec7598ad035d836e2a810f3877a745b24 The voters love sodomyrape2rule
(DIR) Post #AyzvEn7fdmw4RHcqye by freemayonnaise@gigaohm.bio
2025-10-08T06:43:00.307580Z
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Except that pesky exception where 2A > freeze peach > all
(DIR) Post #AyzvXBrqNZEoObzpDc by amerika@annihilation.social
2025-10-08T11:30:33.373427Z
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@ube @3f770d65d3a764a9c5cb503ae123e62ec7598ad035d836e2a810f3877a745b24 (whip noises intensify)
(DIR) Post #AyzvmT4Khsv25a7ff6 by amerika@annihilation.social
2025-10-08T11:32:26.906987Z
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@freemayonnaise @3f770d65d3a764a9c5cb503ae123e62ec7598ad035d836e2a810f3877a745b24 Free speech requires that people manage their own input and expression.That's too much for most normies...
(DIR) Post #Az0LgPKIJ3FXYJML2m by c7eadcf0d03595f681003d0053266729d54882444e0789d80d539b687821e562@mostr.pub
2025-10-08T04:57:26.000Z
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Why do we need moderation tools? Isn’t moderation censorship?
(DIR) Post #Az0LgQgfFMjnlypiYC by 3f770d65d3a764a9c5cb503ae123e62ec7598ad035d836e2a810f3877a745b24@mostr.pub
2025-10-08T11:51:32.000Z
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No, moderation isn't censorship. Community moderation tools allow the users of the community to have control over what content their community sees.It gives them personal control over their feed and their attention. At the same time, the person that's being moderated can still say whatever they want and create whatever they want.Free speech doesn't mean the world has to see your content and read it, it means that the world can see your content and can read it if they want to. My front door is kind of a moderator. It keeps unwanted people out. If I allow you in, you can come in. And if you want to stand outside on the street and preach about why you think cats are superior to dogs, you can do so all night long, I just don't let you inside my house to do it. You win. You get to preach. I win. I don't have to hear it.Moderation works the same way. Censorship would be the cops arresting you in the street for speaking or a client banning you for posting.
(DIR) Post #Az0LgRPgXyka1btfiy by amerika@annihilation.social
2025-10-08T16:23:41.257191Z
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@3f770d65d3a764a9c5cb503ae123e62ec7598ad035d836e2a810f3877a745b24 @c7eadcf0d03595f681003d0053266729d54882444e0789d80d539b687821e562 Censorship is any condition more restrictive than an open debate. Moderation is just the method of censorship.
(DIR) Post #Az2uSWKfLYvJwGZBrM by 3f770d65d3a764a9c5cb503ae123e62ec7598ad035d836e2a810f3877a745b24@mostr.pub
2025-10-08T16:36:50.000Z
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if i mute you, you're not being censored. you can still say whatever you want. i did not stop you from speaking. there is a major difference there.
(DIR) Post #Az2uSXHVolzksm6BaC by 18fcc139950a9cce3fee5ee4f4f46f3e3f0e338277dcc8bcd692b3ce0e94084e@mostr.pub
2025-10-09T20:58:53.000Z
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If you're muting someone on behalf of an entire community of 1 million members, that's centralized censorship. Period. Continues are a hard problem to solve.But that's still blatant censorship.
(DIR) Post #Az2v1ig3RMXSMTM58S by amerika@annihilation.social
2025-10-09T22:09:07.432734Z
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@3f770d65d3a764a9c5cb503ae123e62ec7598ad035d836e2a810f3877a745b24 @c7eadcf0d03595f681003d0053266729d54882444e0789d80d539b687821e562 Muting is something individual accounts do; censorship is something that platforms do.I mute like a methed-out motherfucker on here but it's mostly to filter out people speaking in other languages.
(DIR) Post #Az2xssEArYjnEmmudk by 3f770d65d3a764a9c5cb503ae123e62ec7598ad035d836e2a810f3877a745b24@mostr.pub
2025-10-09T22:35:53.000Z
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Right. So if I mute you, you're not censored. If I use a platform's tool to remove something you posted, you're not censored. Your post is still available on potentially infinite other platforms and relays. For example, if I have a community forum about cars and you post about trees, I'm going to remove it from the community that I moderate. But community platforms that don't have moderation tools would still show it and as I said, it's not technically deleted so your content exists everywhere else.If the platform itself removes or filters out your post, then I could argue it's censorship or shadow banning.
(DIR) Post #Az2xst3vl88bpJ0FJQ by amerika@annihilation.social
2025-10-09T22:41:20.222828Z
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@3f770d65d3a764a9c5cb503ae123e62ec7598ad035d836e2a810f3877a745b24 @c7eadcf0d03595f681003d0053266729d54882444e0789d80d539b687821e562 "If I use a platform's tool to remove something you posted, you're not censored."I disagree. That is very different from muting.We allow some censorship, like we allow killing murderers, for something like the off-topic or spam problem you mention.
(DIR) Post #Az2xvlhnZJnDsV1bAO by amerika@annihilation.social
2025-10-09T22:41:53.130679Z
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@18fcc139950a9cce3fee5ee4f4f46f3e3f0e338277dcc8bcd692b3ce0e94084e @3f770d65d3a764a9c5cb503ae123e62ec7598ad035d836e2a810f3877a745b24 @c7eadcf0d03595f681003d0053266729d54882444e0789d80d539b687821e562 "If you're muting someone on behalf of an entire community of 1 million members, that's centralized censorship."Impossible to dodge the accuracy of this.
(DIR) Post #Az2xxXieXXpv50Gplo by 3f770d65d3a764a9c5cb503ae123e62ec7598ad035d836e2a810f3877a745b24@mostr.pub
2025-10-09T21:00:46.000Z
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you're thinking about platforms. think in protocols. it's slightly different. the content still exists elsewhere on the network.
(DIR) Post #Az2xyTsaImF9SbMaIq by amerika@annihilation.social
2025-10-09T22:42:21.992719Z
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@3f770d65d3a764a9c5cb503ae123e62ec7598ad035d836e2a810f3877a745b24 @18fcc139950a9cce3fee5ee4f4f46f3e3f0e338277dcc8bcd692b3ce0e94084e @c7eadcf0d03595f681003d0053266729d54882444e0789d80d539b687821e562 Not really, because you can censor locally.
(DIR) Post #Az2yKtqsPwn6NpFqca by deab79dafa1c2be4b4a6d3aca1357b6caa0b744bf46ad529a5ae464288579e68@mostr.pub
2025-10-09T22:45:32.000Z
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Sometimes "censorship" is a feature.Some of the best Internet communities I have been part of were moderated forums, because they stayed on topic and didn't get filled with garbage posts and trolls.People should have the freedom to make whatever kind of community they want, a 4chan free for all, or one that is moderated as they see fit.
(DIR) Post #Az2yLOhjhyto4SDUB6 by amerika@annihilation.social
2025-10-09T22:46:30.781236Z
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@deab79dafa1c2be4b4a6d3aca1357b6caa0b744bf46ad529a5ae464288579e68 @18fcc139950a9cce3fee5ee4f4f46f3e3f0e338277dcc8bcd692b3ce0e94084e @3f770d65d3a764a9c5cb503ae123e62ec7598ad035d836e2a810f3877a745b24 @c7eadcf0d03595f681003d0053266729d54882444e0789d80d539b687821e562 It's when you try to connect them up that the problems start.
(DIR) Post #Az3HIX8pmVWWUxEtdo by 18fcc139950a9cce3fee5ee4f4f46f3e3f0e338277dcc8bcd692b3ce0e94084e@mostr.pub
2025-10-09T23:14:29.000Z
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Fully agree with sometimes. Therein lies the complexity. If I brigade 500,000 bots to your community without some filter, it's fucked. Rendered useless. Some barrier is needed. However that same barrier can be used to create an echo chamber (IE Reddit).That's why I say communities are very hard to solve. I don't know the answer yet.But I know mods are definitely not it.
(DIR) Post #Az3HIYgu1KMxIuBcNk by deab79dafa1c2be4b4a6d3aca1357b6caa0b744bf46ad529a5ae464288579e68@mostr.pub
2025-10-09T23:28:34.000Z
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Just maximize freedom. Anyone can make a community as they see fit.You want one for you, your wife and your kids? Feel free. One about how a particular religion pisses you off with no moderation at all? Feel free. You disagree with how someone else runs their particular community and want to start your own with less (or more) restrictive moderation? Feel free.Maximize freedom is the way. Otherwise you're just censoring people's ability to make communities as they see fit.
(DIR) Post #Az3HIZdkUXROFPic6a by 18fcc139950a9cce3fee5ee4f4f46f3e3f0e338277dcc8bcd692b3ce0e94084e@mostr.pub
2025-10-09T23:40:27.000Z
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It's more nuanced than that. Especially in the current age of rampant propaganda.An existing community could have size, and use that size to spread massive lies.Then use moderation to stamp out any fact checking of their lies.Sure, you can create a competing community, but using what reach? Your reach has been stamped out by moderation.Reach matters. Allowing low follower accounts/viewpoints/communities access to the masses is critically important. It prevents the consolidated influence structure that exists today on TradSo.
(DIR) Post #Az3HS01hkzbcgpPzWa by deab79dafa1c2be4b4a6d3aca1357b6caa0b744bf46ad529a5ae464288579e68@mostr.pub
2025-10-09T22:50:13.000Z
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If I made a community for members of my local sports team for instance. Is it censorship to block anyone not on the team? A group about retro video games, to block posts about gardening?
(DIR) Post #Az3HS1VAGwlVGUD25A by amerika@annihilation.social
2025-10-10T02:20:35.692362Z
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@deab79dafa1c2be4b4a6d3aca1357b6caa0b744bf46ad529a5ae464288579e68 @18fcc139950a9cce3fee5ee4f4f46f3e3f0e338277dcc8bcd692b3ce0e94084e @3f770d65d3a764a9c5cb503ae123e62ec7598ad035d836e2a810f3877a745b24 @c7eadcf0d03595f681003d0053266729d54882444e0789d80d539b687821e562 I like the USENET model best.