Post AyzPvHIEf3GJdkmaLQ by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
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(DIR) Post #AyzNXvXFBsofafXZLM by Cat@mastodon.sdf.org
2025-10-07T22:34:12Z
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@tomjennings dude I saw you favorite one of my posts & I apologize for being embarrassingly starstruck for a minute but you've been a huge influence on me since way back in the BBS era. you showed me tech & art/imagination can coexist. a ways back you wrote something about the way coyotes talk to each other called "coyote protocol" - I carried that with me & not long back wrote about a similar idea regarding fireflies. glad to see you here on Fedi, hope you check out my Gopher space one time. 🐱💕
(DIR) Post #AyzNXx2TbFOSFpA1fE by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-10-08T05:10:02Z
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@Cat Lol thanks! I'm so flattered! The meaning of "tech" has changed so much... of course I'm understand what you mean. I told you about coyote protocol? I intended to actually make them, I didn't, but I made a dozen boxes that built on the ideas using tiny radios, outdoors, batteries and solar, crhet live in the yard, a year now, and talk to each other when someone walks by, and play bird songs. But i should make the coyotes! I played with gopher, got frustrated with the limitations, but I'm thinking of it again, with maybe a site generator/updater instead of hand coding, with is is so error prone... Hey can you suggest gopher clients? Android and Linux ? What do you use?
(DIR) Post #AyzNY19iIHYj1QZrV2 by Cat@mastodon.sdf.org
2025-10-07T22:55:06Z
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@tomjennings I was too young to appreciate FidoNet at the time, it was something stuffy adults used to send mail to each other, but learning more about it later in life taught me that you can build something big & magical without approval from a committee or acceptance from a faculty, it just takes a passionate, hard working hacker or two. Gopher is another good example of this. it also showed me that some projects are finite, they have logical ends & it's ok to close them off or let them go.
(DIR) Post #AyzNnIHatjYOU6Y1lA by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-10-08T05:12:48Z
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@Cat Lol I like the part about you remembering FidoNet as something for stuffy adults! Lol
(DIR) Post #AyzPMm46G9zywUiaqO by Cat@mastodon.sdf.org
2025-10-08T05:30:19Z
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@tomjennings I read it on your website I think. my firefly protocol described a way to make an LED firefly jars have a bit more personality than just flickering randomly. I haven't found time to publish it anywhere yet though.re. Gopher, if you prefer the CLI I like phetch: https://github.com/xvxx/phetch - it's super capable and user friendly, I use VF-1 as a backup - https://sr.ht/~solderpunk/VF-1/GUI I like Lagrange - https://gmi.skyjake.fi/lagrange/ - ostensibly it's a Gemini browser but it handles Gopher fine
(DIR) Post #AyzPvHIEf3GJdkmaLQ by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-10-08T05:36:41Z
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@Cat Thanks! I'll work on that stuff in the AM!
(DIR) Post #AyzQJf0o7tj29YG168 by Cat@mastodon.sdf.org
2025-10-08T05:32:55Z
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@tomjennings Lagrange should also run on Android IIRC but I can't say for sure, I don't have a device.those browsers are the few niche ones that will render gopher://baud.baby properly - I'm an artist and hacker in equal measure so I deliberately fly in the face of what constitutes a "proper" Gopher hole hahaha
(DIR) Post #AyzQJgKhDREEFWZPjk by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-10-08T05:41:04Z
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@Cat Ok thanks. I never setup to look at Gemini protocol but it's past time I started.
(DIR) Post #Az0R28soccPmhEgolc by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-10-08T17:23:43Z
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@scottAhh great to know! I'll do it today. @Cat
(DIR) Post #Az10nHc5Tg8vmL4xqC by scott@mastodon.clitheroe.ca
2025-10-08T11:33:52Z
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@Cat @tomjennings Lagrange runs beautifully on Android! It's a great Gemini and Gopher browser
(DIR) Post #Az10nJ9Rl8QCY5h7Tc by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-10-09T00:04:29Z
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@CatI can't find Lagrange binaries anywhere. Looking for Android. On desktop, Gophie seems good!There's pocket gopher but only for old androids. @scott
(DIR) Post #Az11J4e1ENp0p68pzk by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-10-09T00:10:16Z
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@CatI found Lagrange and more from skyjake.fi... unfortunately I'm not setup to do builds, no longer have the interest in that level of stuff... I have too many code projects as it is... Too much to learn up front to try it out. On desktop, Gophie seems good!There's pocket gopher but only for old androids. What are you using for gopher server? I take it Gemini does gopher as well. Haven't started rtfm Gemini yet will shortly. @scott
(DIR) Post #Az11xePpebR9Lgr2Bs by Cat@mastodon.sdf.org
2025-10-09T00:17:36Z
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@tomjennings @scott You can find a few pre-compiled Lagrange binaries here; https://git.skyjake.fi/gemini/lagrange/releases - YMMV depending on your Linux loadout.the .baby's backend is Bitreich's geomyidae gopher://bitreich.org/1/scm/geomyidae/log.gph - but it's a bit of an oddity in how you lay out Gophermaps, it uses its own syntax that is unconventional but I find helps with big cumbersome maps like mine. That's really all I can say re. daemons though, it's all I've used forever. @tomasino might have suggestions?
(DIR) Post #Az12GFCZcevKeSWE6K by scott@mastodon.clitheroe.ca
2025-10-09T00:20:56Z
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@tomjennings @Cat Lagrange handles Gemini and gopher sites, just as an fyi, and also has a TUI mode if you crave a TTY experience (I haven't tried it yet, but I really should...). If on Linux, there's a Flatpak version available too for easy of install - that's what I use at present.
(DIR) Post #Az12HGoh6Vqlwvq3lY by Cat@mastodon.sdf.org
2025-10-09T00:21:08Z
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@tomjennings @scott I can't speak to Gemini daemons yet, I haven't had a Gemini capsule in a while but it's on my radar to do soon.
(DIR) Post #Az1FnsT9wkY7Oje1mC by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-10-09T02:52:43Z
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@scott Do you have an SDK to compile it? All I found were sources.@Cat
(DIR) Post #Az1GW7MFx5s0JeVkLA by Cat@mastodon.sdf.org
2025-10-09T03:00:18Z
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@tomjennings @scott are you sure? this URL should have binaries for Linux, Windows, macOS - https://git.skyjake.fi/gemini/lagrange/releases - it might also be in whatever package manager your distro uses, I've never tried to build it myself so can't be much help there sorry
(DIR) Post #Az1GaMHOPrFXkjG4m0 by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-10-09T03:01:28Z
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@Cat D'oh, those are clearly binary releases. NEVER MIND I need to go eat.Thanks!@scott
(DIR) Post #Az1GmeC5dVm6mwdbIe by Cat@mastodon.sdf.org
2025-10-09T03:03:40Z
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@tomjennings @scott hahaha no problem at all, happens to the best of us 💕
(DIR) Post #Az1ORj5T317hW54irA by tomasino@tilde.zone
2025-10-09T04:29:24Z
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@Cat @tomjennings @scott Lagrange on Android is easiest to install via Fdroid. No code/compiling needed.As far as servers go, I'm running motsognir, which is a really strict option, and sorta the opposite of cat's choice. The one I normally recommend is gophernicus. Sadly, none of the options are very straight forward app installs.
(DIR) Post #Az1TCh6scGf8oMO54K by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-10-09T05:22:52Z
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@tomasino interesting, search for "lagrange" returns no matches on my f-droid, Id tried that right away. Not found on google play either. I'm running grapheneOS, but that shouldnt matter.In in Southern CA USA. What country are you in?@Cat @scott
(DIR) Post #Az1ozU5rth2lfX1KGe by tomasino@tilde.zone
2025-10-09T09:26:50Z
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@tomjennings @Cat @scott aha, I forgot that the releases are in their own repo.https://skyjake.github.io/fdroid/repo/You can add it here, then it will show up in search.
(DIR) Post #Az2M6mNbbb2ateP38i by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-10-09T15:38:04Z
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@tomasinoWow, very odd, with f-droid. I will uninstall and reinstall. It's given me problems before. Maybe that will fix it. @Cat @scott
(DIR) Post #Az3O1ulBPkrMVRCPXk by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-10-10T03:34:17Z
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@CatInstalls on phone thanks!Now i gotta puzzle it out@scott @tomasino
(DIR) Post #Az3P4Y3qMhfwvfkORM by Cat@mastodon.sdf.org
2025-10-10T03:45:57Z
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@tomjennings @scott @tomasino hell yeah! welcome to Gopher space 🐱💕
(DIR) Post #Az3Q7l0mlsVduyPXU0 by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-10-10T03:57:46Z
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@tomasinoI loaded the app from the Lagrange site. Odd that search doesn't work on f-droid will invest they separately. @Cat @scott
(DIR) Post #Az3THc9UrhdTCOsSQq by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-10-10T04:33:10Z
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@tomasinoI didn't know that was possible,! Thanks! @Cat @scott