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(DIR) Post #AypQzei9gymnnlxULw by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-10-03T10:01:31Z
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Have you had a workshop, memo or other pressure to use AI at your work or school?I'm defining "pressure" as either training or other work events designed to get you to engage with AI when you might not have bothered otherwise. Of course any mandate that you MUST use it would count too.
(DIR) Post #AypRKn3jqiQhm48Drs by toni@zug.network
2025-10-03T10:05:17Z
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@futurebird C-suite always promotes that AI will make us more efficient and everyone should be “empowered” to use it. I have no interest, and I’m not (yet) forced to do training or anything. I do sometimes watch presentations, so I can make fun of how bad it is later.
(DIR) Post #AypRe0xwMy3cPGaQK0 by david_chisnall@infosec.exchange
2025-10-03T10:08:46Z
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@futurebird When I was at MS, I had a weird mixture of options 2 and 3. Management told you you must use AI for everything, if you weren't using AI you were going to be first in line for redundancies, and that AI was the future of all of the things. At the same time, to use the corporate Copilot subscription you had to agree to a policy that basically meant that you indemnified the company that produced Copilot against any legal issues arising from its use. I declined to use it and sought alternate employment.
(DIR) Post #AypS9Uh5tGQTaHiX4K by catmisgivings@stranger.social
2025-10-03T10:14:23Z
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@futurebird I answered for work at my company itself (nil) but I'm reviewing conference papers for a conf my professional organization puts on, and let's just say prompt engineering hits a major point of one of the three conference tracks
(DIR) Post #AypVnGCbUPP45J6pxA by tantramar@mastodon.social
2025-10-03T10:55:15Z
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@futurebird self-employed, so no. clients are unlikely to ask/demand it, since presumably they’d be using it to replace me. there’s also a “no generative AI has been used…” disclaimer on the footer of my website.
(DIR) Post #AypWE84joT1GhMF4zY by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-10-03T11:00:02Z
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@pre "People imagine that code is written for the computer to run, but really it's always been written for the programmers to understand."Say it again. Print it out and post it on the wall. Carve it into a granite pillar and put it in the town square.
(DIR) Post #AypWFqqwogZ9rZc4qu by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-10-03T11:00:29Z
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@pre "What is 'good code'?"Point to the stone tablet with the quote.
(DIR) Post #AypXZh6erc0zNdzGmu by EndorNim@mathstodon.xyz
2025-10-03T11:15:07Z
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@futurebird @pre 01011001 01100101 01110011 00101100 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 11100010 10000000 10011001 01110010 01100101 00100000 01100011 01101111 01110010 01110010 01100101 01100011 01110100 00101110
(DIR) Post #AypYvG9zpU928KOanI by lerxst@az.social
2025-10-03T11:30:20Z
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@futurebird @pre and the corollary: “code is read by humans many more times than written by humans”We seem to forget as an industry every 20 years or so that coding is the easy part of these jobs, and if you understand the problem well enough to explain it in your native language that you are already 90% there.
(DIR) Post #AypZsnS1hMh8T6Dbpw by VCP@mastodon.social
2025-10-03T11:41:04Z
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@futurebird my university has gotten an OpenAI subscription for all faculty & students. 😑
(DIR) Post #AypaTxOTh6qw1IHJBI by 3TomatoesShort@disabled.social
2025-10-03T11:47:47Z
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@futurebirdI don't work, but developers at my husband's work have been told they have to use it 🙄
(DIR) Post #Aypai6nHXen9EBd06K by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-10-03T11:50:23Z
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@3TomatoesShort This is so bizarre to me. I remember in the early days of the internet if you found out a company had a high speed connection at the office or if they gave you a nice laptop you might want to go work there more. I somehow don't think young people are feeling the same way about companies who buy AI services for everyone. Maybe I'm just old. But ... I don't think so.
(DIR) Post #AypavgBTH0qekkPh44 by aadeacon@mastodon.social
2025-10-03T11:52:48Z
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@futurebird No But I am retired
(DIR) Post #Aypawkv99EbHjWI6QC by mzedp@mas.to
2025-10-03T11:53:02Z
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@futurebird Pressure to use, and "training workshops" with "experts" to "teach prompting".
(DIR) Post #AypbHtkVWG3zCAOcLo by NormanDunbar@mastodon.scot
2025-10-03T11:56:50Z
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@futurebird Thankfully I've retired so no mandates here.
(DIR) Post #AypbrHLBnXRoUzQNUW by Sir_Osis_of_Liver@beige.party
2025-10-03T12:03:13Z
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@futurebird I work for a consulting engineering conglomerate. We now have access to AI, but using it has been left up to employees to figure out for themselves, so far.I think we have it only so our advertising blurbs can claim that we use "the latest AI tech"🤷♂️
(DIR) Post #Aypbs1ApOOUYeAvkjA by 3TomatoesShort@disabled.social
2025-10-03T12:03:15Z
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@futurebirdI don't get it, either. If it was beneficial and problem free, people would just choose to use it. I think it's insulting to hire senior engineers who have been honing their craft for years, and then dictate the tools they should use with no discussion etc.
(DIR) Post #AypcYae9tX08pLwwKW by lxskllr@mastodon.world
2025-10-03T12:11:01Z
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@futurebird Not sure if I should vote. The company I'm with is unique in several ways with regards to this question, but AI has never come up, and no one sane would ever propose it. If they did, it would be a hard veto from me, and the matter would be dropped. You could hardly have a worse fit.Industry is land surveying
(DIR) Post #Aypcc1dU0S1POwGuLg by Oneironaut@infosec.exchange
2025-10-03T12:11:40Z
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@futurebird @3TomatoesShort companies that dont go in on ‘AI’ will be blamed when the stock market tanks
(DIR) Post #AypcmAs6WSSSwQwxxw by Frantasaur@mastodon.ie
2025-10-03T12:13:27Z
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@futurebird we did a training on the dangers of AI that was mandated before they rolled out a basic copilot. It was explained how it really works (and the inherent flaws with AI output), and we went over a lot of other dangers including the studies that show the effects of over reliance on AI (cognitive abilities can decline). It ended with a long list of things we are NOT allowed to use AI for, and a stern reminder that we are personally responsible for all output (AI or not) used in our jobs.
(DIR) Post #AypdHh1D3Em3cWEpRQ by mhoye@mastodon.social
2025-10-03T12:19:12Z
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@futurebird @3TomatoesShort I wrote a thing about it: https://exple.tive.org/blarg/2025/09/25/hyperrealist-datacenters-and-potemkin-mcribs/...but the short version is, it's got nothing to do with human needs anymore.
(DIR) Post #Aypdgbs5KEUGtcqrDc by artemis@dice.camp
2025-10-03T12:23:42Z
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@futurebird My workplace just had a couple days conference on AI use. I think it was mainly managers invited, so I wasn't included, but my boss came back from it trying to use Copilot to help write our departmental procedure documents (which are very specific to us & our processes), so I'm not thrilled.
(DIR) Post #AypeLjwAF2upmiN7bc by trollkatt@mastodon.online
2025-10-03T12:31:08Z
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@futurebird I am happy that for now, nobody's pressing me to use it. One of our colleagues connected ChatGPT to a special chat channel in our Mattermost (slack-like alternative) but besides two queries that day nobody has asked anything else 😅
(DIR) Post #AypecBeMyOkQMttJTs by peter_mcmahan@mas.to
2025-10-03T12:34:08Z
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@futurebirdThe university I work at has constant workshops on how use "AI" in teaching (!) and how to write prompts for academic work. They have gone all-in on Microsoft so Copilot has been added to our LMS (and of course is pushed in all the MS products we have to use)
(DIR) Post #Aypghs9Cb2ddWm9Sls by juergen_hubert@mementomori.social
2025-10-03T12:57:31Z
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@futurebird Well, there was some mandatory AI training at my company, but the main gist was: "Uploading any internal company data into AI systems not specifically greenlit by our CISO is a no-go."They said that we _can_ use AI tools, but nobody is forced to. And if someone uses AI tools for their work, they are still responsible for the results - including double-checking it.Frankly, short of outright banning AI tools this was probably the best I could hope for.
(DIR) Post #AypgwRArAHVaDOs2DY by rcl@mastodon.gamedev.place
2025-10-03T13:00:09Z
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@futurebird Hmm, I would participate in your poll, but there is no option that would fit a voluntary engagement with AI
(DIR) Post #Ayph9ouEF3NZaBTTX6 by weekend_editor@mathstodon.xyz
2025-10-03T13:02:37Z
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@futurebird @pre I'd say, rather, put the granite pillar in every software manager's office.Preferably hanging above their chair by a thin wire.
(DIR) Post #AypiZ0QMebdoV34xWa by synlogic4242@social.vivaldi.net
2025-10-03T13:18:21Z
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@futurebird @pre well, a syntax for the source code language (for humans) that can be reliably and deterministically and efficiently mapped to a binary language-specified data object, which is itself the thing the computer executed. this has been known for like 40+ years now I can confirm firsthand lol
(DIR) Post #Aypijk43orWewjlYDw by aintist@mstdn.social
2025-10-03T13:20:16Z
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@futurebird I haven’t but my daughter managed to convince the teacher running the environmental club not to use ChatGPT because of the environmental impact.
(DIR) Post #AypilVGDpZ1Hc1IIoS by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-10-03T13:20:39Z
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@mhoye @3TomatoesShort in reference to your essay (which I liked) Potemkin villages aren’t all apocryphal. We had them in the South Bronx in the 80s. Neglectful landlords were persuaded to paint the brick walls that faced the freeways with fake curtains and windows to disguise the extremity of the disinvestment and population loss the Bronx was suffering at that moment. Of course now we are more inclined to paint them to seem abandoned to slow the building boom.
(DIR) Post #AypkRV7epnSRIgsVfc by foolishowl@social.coop
2025-10-03T13:39:24Z
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@futurebird I haven't been pressured myself, as I'm a contract worker, but the direct employees are required to go through several hours of training on "AI", despite the fact we don't use it at all.
(DIR) Post #Aypllf5faEdJxf7qnQ by admin@mastodon.slightlycyberpunk.com
2025-10-03T13:54:14Z
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@futurebird Went from banned to mandates very quick. Recently got questioned by my manager about why I wasn't using it, because they're checking who is and isn't...only time they've ever done that for any tool and I've been there since 2012. Also a complete reversal on security policy, we've always been told we're not allowed to install software ourselves, to the point that I was nearly fired for having a pertable version of Firefox on my system once. But what's the process for using the AI? Login on the website and download and install it yourself.I'm still not using it but they're pushing it hard...
(DIR) Post #AypmOKRsGNeNEewvh2 by mhoye@mastodon.social
2025-10-03T14:01:14Z
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@futurebird @3TomatoesShort Reminds me of the (also maybe apocryphal maybe not) story about a guy in I think Oakland who'd fire off a starter pistol outside a few times a week just to keep the rent down.
(DIR) Post #Aypmg6ha6z0HoUm2Ai by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-10-03T14:04:29Z
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@mhoye @3TomatoesShort 🤔
(DIR) Post #AypmjMiyzq9KNKz0Ou by wollman@mastodon.social
2025-10-03T14:05:02Z
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@futurebird Don't know how I can answer this; the choices don't seem adequate. Work *is* an AI lab (and has been since before I was born). But I run infrastructure, I'm not a grad student, so my involvement is making sure the compute nodes can talk to each other and to their storage. I don't actually use the stuff.
(DIR) Post #AypnGU88U17strXa8O by cubeofcheese@mstdn.social
2025-10-03T14:11:03Z
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@futurebird there have been workshops at conferencesOther teachers have also promote AI tools during staff meeting. But nothing oficializar endorsed by the school or mandatory trainings
(DIR) Post #Aypns9k8jJwSfuHP3A by thesquirrelfish@sfba.social
2025-10-03T14:17:50Z
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@futurebird This imposed AI demand reminds me of a thing VCs have been doing for awhile.. if you get an investment from Funder A, then all of a sudden you're expected to switch to the other apps in Funder A's portfolio. So for example, your company will now to have to pay for and use specific hiring software, payroll software, maybe even project management tools and all of that stuff is pretty expensive. So the funders investment is also buying clients for the other companies in their portfolio.... We need modern trust busting so much.
(DIR) Post #AyppOGtnlBj25ag0i8 by jochie@strangeweb.page
2025-10-03T14:34:51Z
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@futurebird Work pressures us to use AI, but is blocking vendors/sites for which they have no legal agreement, so I picked both #2 and #3.
(DIR) Post #Aypt1kCF4BYM6rocj2 by michael_w_busch@mastodon.online
2025-10-03T15:15:32Z
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@futurebird I have had both work pressuring people to use the image and text generators (stock art being replaced by image generator slop; offered a project only if I agreed to have the work product be fed into a text generator) and also work righting banning them because plagiarism is unacceptable & accuracy matters.
(DIR) Post #Aypv5ye7U7bTzW08um by dpnash@c.im
2025-10-03T15:26:26Z
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@futurebird I voted "has pressured", but it was relatively modest pressure (the result of one manager who was really enamored with ChatGPT 4 for a while and who has largely stopped bugging people about it since then). This was a bit over a year ago, when all the dev teams had to do a short workshop for MS Copilot.I did the workshop, it generated crappy code, I walked away. There are some *very* choice comments on internal chat from one web dev team who did a slightly different workshop and had an unbelievably bad experience.I've not felt any pressure since then.
(DIR) Post #Aypv64GaaWLXQH2R4S by dpnash@c.im
2025-10-03T15:31:54Z
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@futurebird Although I haven't had further pressure myself, I have *already* had to deal with other people's botshit, since every so often I encounter a bug report that has (a) "that ChatGPT style" and (b) errors in the steps to reproduce or its effects on end users, and in some ways this is more annoying than the brief corporate pressure was a few months back.
(DIR) Post #AypzItYo6WRbncvp44 by StumpyTheMutt@social.linux.pizza
2025-10-03T16:25:53Z
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@futurebird We have to filter our code through SonarQube, which then offers nonsensical AI solutions to its naive "code smells."
(DIR) Post #Ayq7KZV8SDbPncWaEC by glyph@mastodon.social
2025-10-03T17:55:44Z
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@futurebird @mhoye @3TomatoesShort @gvwilson I think this still qualifies “Potemkin villages” as apocryphal, although perhaps “bronx window paintings” wouldn’t be
(DIR) Post #Ayq9qERcTgFHfU6Y8u by nessotropheion@glaceon.social
2025-10-03T18:23:44Z
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@futurebird
(DIR) Post #AyqA4sY4AWv66Q6WFk by nessotropheion@glaceon.social
2025-10-03T18:26:37Z
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@futurebird There have been optional trainings at my workplace (a public highschool), and while I'm not expected to use it because as an instructional assistant I'm not the one creating assignments, I now have to help kids with obviously AI-generated worksheets and it's driving me up the wall
(DIR) Post #AyqAGE78KRgGAkux0q by dnorman@cosocial.ca
2025-10-03T18:28:41Z
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@futurebird @JMMaok missing a big “work is aware of AI and trusts you as an adult to make decisions about its use”
(DIR) Post #AyqJf2KIBwOgRMygBE by diazona@techhub.social
2025-10-03T20:14:01Z
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@futurebird That is a rather broad definition of "pressure" if you ask me.At my workplace we've had a few presentations along the lines of "here are some interesting things we've been doing with AI, here's where they seem to work well/not well, and here is how you can try them out if you want to", which I would definitely not consider "pressure" but nevertheless seem to meet the definition being used here
(DIR) Post #AyqLqyYCFtI076Imx6 by zeborah@mastodon.nz
2025-10-03T20:38:25Z
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@futurebird Where's the tickbox for "Work has spent the last ten months drafting a policy about being ethical with AI use and has also just put up a proposal to fire a bunch of experts and replace them with AI tools with no indication that they have any idea what AI tools could do the work. (Probably because there aren't any such tools.)"
(DIR) Post #AyqOEr0CAh9PYpubQm by KanaMauna@sauropods.win
2025-10-03T21:05:22Z
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@futurebird At my former employer there was a ban on all unauthorized AI/bots. Government so they took the risk to clients' PII seriously.
(DIR) Post #AyqYq9KRzlTiekoCnY by mwt@mastodon.nz
2025-10-03T23:04:00Z
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@futurebird we're encouraged to use it, but not pressured. So far people seem to like it for helping write things. I use it for code questions when I can't find answers elsewhere.
(DIR) Post #AyqcO5mbz6HFMqrEqO by cmessias@fosstodon.org
2025-10-03T23:43:52Z
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@futurebird it started as encouragement, like offering courses and tools, but last week they said AI usage is going to come up in performance reviews and I think this is a big YIKES
(DIR) Post #Ayqd6MCiIDap2QApUW by epilanthanomai@signs.codes
2025-10-03T23:51:47Z
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@futurebird I put "bans in some cases" but really it's been more or less "We have this license for a genai tool in case you want to experiment I guess. But talk to legal before you even think about putting generated code into a released product."
(DIR) Post #AyqeeqAPUw9NlZ6SPY by JaykeBird@social.vivaldi.net
2025-10-04T00:09:17Z
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With my workplace, they've set aside time for us all to come in to learn about some AI tool, and they send newsletters and internal updates... but yet it's not even ready enough yet to be tested on our workflows, much less us being able to actually use it. They're giving us updates on a tool that we can't even touch lol. It's been moooonths.There's Microsoft's Copilot that they're encouraging us to use too, but minus some higher ups shoehorning usage of it into their presentations, there's not been that much pressure.
(DIR) Post #Ayr7m9PjEXem9q6eQa by PTR_K@dice.camp
2025-10-04T05:35:32Z
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@futurebird Not the question, since we've never been pressured to use AI, nor banned from it. But to give an idea the degree to which AI at work comes up:* It is not impossible that some group is using analytical AI to flag patterns in research data for further analysis. But if so, I've never had contact with it.* The organization supplied optional AI office productivity tools for things like summarizing or drafting emails. I didn't trust them so chose not to take the training on them.1/n
(DIR) Post #AyrdSyUinxMvK4LFQW by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-10-04T11:30:41Z
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@bytebro I think you cite Adam, with whom I was talking just then.
(DIR) Post #AyrezNLC3uUtbRtmfw by grob@mstdn.social
2025-10-04T11:47:42Z
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@futurebird took the "pressured" option, even though there has not been a direct "please use this AI tool" but rather "look how cool this AI is, why not use it to make all the hard stuff easier for you".The reason I chose "pressure": the company painted itself into a tech debt corner for which AI is touted as (part of) the solution. Which I find severely questionable. I do not want a probable workaround, I want a reliable long-term solution of issues (ain't gonna happen though).
(DIR) Post #AyrkvCDa4djvfmjDRA by olsner@social.vivaldi.net
2025-10-04T12:54:11Z
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@futurebird quite soft pressure here, more like encouraging finding ways to do ”more with less+AI” to save money or something. Don’t really see the logic, but whatever. Plus some reasonable policies about not giving secrets to public AIs.But since work is a mostly-Microsoft shop, there’s an endless onslaught of Copilots to fend off (having uninstalled 5 and counting…) requiring constant upkeep just to NOT use it.