Post AyjaXTc5C5IxroYoKm by starluna@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #AyjJ2AMD2Tf3wocV2O by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-30T11:04:03Z
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Medbeds are just a way for conservatives to fantasize about universal healthcare without being called "socialist."It's a permission structure, an outlet for that unspeakable desire to see a world where the reaction to a person being sick is the very obvious thing: help them, help them get better, do it now.
(DIR) Post #AyjJA2SoGqtzmbSf4q by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-30T11:05:29Z
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It's like when someone makes up a convoluted story about how they are the last person on earth and the only other person is their crush... and they are choking and need CPR and ... and.. and...Come to the left and you wouldn't need to hide it anymore!
(DIR) Post #AyjP3XsteNXSvkwyNE by axeln@norden.social
2025-09-30T12:11:30Z
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@futurebird @hypebot That is the best take I have read in a while. It is the technofascism version of idealism.
(DIR) Post #AyjRDy1vUog8p9GrUu by Nobodyknows789@mastodon.social
2025-09-30T12:35:44Z
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@futurebird It's strange. Conservatives are mainly christian. I seem to recall jesus being all about selflessly helping the sick. Funny how christians never seem to follow their own rules!
(DIR) Post #AyjVgN00eeeQBnAoDo by joshbuddy@sfba.social
2025-09-30T13:25:45Z
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@futurebird It made me think of Elysium, like someone watched that and have a fever dream about beautiful healthcare provided by a private/public partnership
(DIR) Post #AyjXK42qe4F4wPzbV2 by faraiwe@mstdn.social
2025-09-30T13:44:07Z
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@futurebird it's a fantastic myth of getting a service for nothing, after SOMEONE ELSE pays for an initial investment in hardware, so you can have free healthcare.It removes the human element which needs to be educated, trained, then paid and cared for, to provide you with healthcare.Jack-off TEA party/libertarian fantasies, no less.
(DIR) Post #AyjYJXCspvhP38zvk0 by fraggle@social.coop
2025-09-30T13:55:12Z
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@futurebird a medbed features in the film "Prometheus" (prequel to the alien films) and there's a scene where the main character (a woman) can't get the healthcare and needs from it because it's been programmed specifically for a billionaire white guy who came with them on the shipSo even though it's a fantasy, scifi already showed us why it's not necessarily a good one
(DIR) Post #AyjaXTc5C5IxroYoKm by starluna@mastodon.social
2025-09-30T14:20:02Z
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@futurebird It was also the primary plot point in the movie Elysium.Maybe these people were watching those movies while high or sick and somehow thought that they were documentaries.
(DIR) Post #Ayjb37Z4hmgWkeF72W by chessert@mastodon.online
2025-09-30T14:25:51Z
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@futurebird Also, no point helping other people, if you can’t make a profit from it. A fundamental Republican belief: empathy isn’t free.
(DIR) Post #AyjcSjHViEEavBnmoS by clanger9@mastodon.online
2025-09-30T14:41:43Z
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Like all good conspiracy theories, it's also self-perpetuating. Anyone who tries to explain that "medbeds aren't real" is automatically classified as part of the conspiracy."See, it MUST be true because everyone is telling me that it isn't!!" 🫠
(DIR) Post #AyjfKdYvOLzsjImRIu by michael_w_busch@mastodon.online
2025-09-30T15:13:50Z
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@futurebird The "medbed" conspiracists also present a fantasy of healthcare without healthcare workers who have their own needs and rights.And now I am thinking about all of the bigotry (classism, racism, sexism, etc.) underlying that.
(DIR) Post #Ayjfmpei1TFsLQvk0G by ravindra@mastodon.gamedev.place
2025-09-30T15:18:57Z
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@futurebird also it means that they are allowed to oppose anything that would improve the state of healthcare in the here and now, because "actually it's a waste of time and money to train doctors and nurses to treat patients, or hire researchers to discover new treatments, when all we have to do is get our hands on the medbeds and make them available to the public"
(DIR) Post #AyjjKENLR31uQmQS0W by david_chisnall@infosec.exchange
2025-09-30T15:58:38Z
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@futurebird Medbeds are just a way for conservatives to fantasize about universal healthcare without being called "socialist."I'm fairly new to this conspiracy theory, so please forgive me if I'm misunderstanding it, but I think it's more of a conservative fantasy. If I understand it, MedBeds are perfect health care that has limited access to an in-group. The key part is that you get perfect health care if you are part of the in group, but people who are not part of it are denied healthcare.In the ideal conservative world where these things exist, you completely dismantle the healthcare system, get rid of all of those pesky workers, and only members of the in group get any healthcare.
(DIR) Post #AyjlM8x2lzm45zABOa by jmcrookston@mastodon.social
2025-09-30T16:21:22Z
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@futurebird I learned long ago never to say "well, things can't get any crazier"
(DIR) Post #AyjqV38iFZHiRoggcq by bob_zim@infosec.exchange
2025-09-30T17:18:57Z
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@futurebird For some people, absolutely.For other people, it’s more an excuse to just keep messing things up, much like “we’ll solve climate change with carbon capture!”
(DIR) Post #AyjyocCqtcdiLBSqQq by ChuckMcManis@chaos.social
2025-09-30T16:11:47Z
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@starluna @futurebird I am particularly struck by how many right wingers clearly saw some dystopian sci-fi at some point and said, "Ohhhh, I want that!"
(DIR) Post #AyjyodOEUnKy0lnRoG by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-30T18:52:11Z
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@ChuckMcManis @starluna I mean I think the motorbikes from mad max are really cute but that’s about as far as that goes. (would like to drive the apocalypse bike around the not apocalyptic nyc please)🙏
(DIR) Post #AyjzsIrkqQrvTDv0WO by theogrin@chaosfem.tw
2025-09-30T19:04:02Z
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@futurebird I'm reminded of an anthropological story -- not sure how apocryphal it is, but it's been cited many a time -- about finding ancient evidence of a once-broken femur which was healed. That doesn't frequently happen without a community around which is willing to provide aid, be it for altruistic reasons or otherwise -- so it was considered as proof of at least the ability to form a community. (I wouldn't call it proof of sophonce, of course. Animals form communities, that's hardly a point of argument.)Not sure why it leaps to mind. Possibly because conservatives have always been wont to eliminate the very common desire to provide care to those who need it, so that they're 'normal'.
(DIR) Post #AylF6PBFrCflZyBKgy by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-10-01T09:29:24Z
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@smitten_ In a way it gives me a sliver of hope because it means that a lot of people can't really tolerate what Ben Shapiro suggested in an interview once "good things happen to good people, bad things happen to bad people"At some point this conservative philosophy ask you to look at people who are suffering and think "well they probably deserve it" ... that's maybe possible if it's people you don't know. (but still bad)When it's your friends and family? Not so much.
(DIR) Post #AylFSRtoQhy4NjXCnA by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-10-01T09:33:24Z
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@smitten_ "Public Health" is meddling, in this world view with the natural order. At private grade schools with tuition of more than 30k a year a doctor comes to each school in the fall several times so everyone can get vaccinated. It's always been like this. Because the most rich and powerful people in the world don't want their kids to die. This will happen if similar support is done by the government for "everyone else" or not.