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(DIR) Post #AyfXfot4u7fffYxOBE by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T15:29:16Z
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#GiftArticleWhat the Public Memory of #CharlieKirk RevealedFor those who felt denigrated by his rhetoric, the bipartisan tributes to him as a champion of free speech augured something dangerous: the #mainstreaming of formerly #extremist views.By Nikole Hannah-Joneshttps://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/28/magazine/charlie-kirk-rhetoric.html?unlocked_article_code=1.pU8.xYGk.f_VTKCpgv7OH&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
(DIR) Post #AyfXpUGsPRcgcphLw8 by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T15:31:01Z
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The day #CharlieKirk was killed, Dominic Durant’s 11yo daughter came home from her middle school in Tulsa, OK, & told her father that her friends had been very upset about his death, & that they felt she should be upset, too. “I’m sad,” she said, tears in her eyes.
(DIR) Post #AyfXxTcchu8evcgD3Y by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T15:32:16Z
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Durant struggled with how to respond. He, too, had been appalled by the act of violence. But his young daughter did not know much about #Kirk, & he worried she would look him up on YouTube & come across the many ugly assertions the right-wing activist had made about #Black Americans like them.
(DIR) Post #AyfY3JKjs8vWkz62RE by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T15:33:20Z
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For instance, Kirk had claimed that 4 prominent & successful #BlackWomen, who all went to Ivy League universities — Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, the fmr first lady Michelle Obama, the TV host Joy-Ann Reid & fmr Rep Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas — did not “have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously” & had to “go steal a white person’s slot.” He’d argued that “Black America is poorer, more murderous, more dangerous” than when #Black people were living under #JimCrow.
(DIR) Post #AyfYG2fF9x8ep3l3RI by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T15:35:49Z
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Durant did not want his daughter thinking that because her friends were grieving him that the things #Kirk had claimed were acceptable or right.It was a difficult & heart-rending conversation, grappling with how his daughter’s classmates could admire a man who’d said such hurtful things. “I said it’s natural to be sad & I don’t want to change your opinion about being sad,” Durant recounted.
(DIR) Post #AyfYQraqf3JrfjrWFM by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T15:37:28Z
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Durant continued, “But I am explaining to you that the gentleman who just got shot was under the impression that you, as a young #Black #woman, don’t have brain processing power. So I am explaining it to you to let you know what he said was wrong & not true.”As a Christian, Durant also felt he had to address #Kirk’s version of #Christianity, which condemned & disparaged people who are #gay & #transgender.
(DIR) Post #AyfYcoDl1e8cghl2dE by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T15:38:48Z
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#Kirk once posted, “The pride & trans movements have always been about grooming kids.” In another instance, he had pointed to a passage in the Bible that said men who lay with other men “shall be stoned to death,” saying it “affirms God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.”This #intolerance was not reflective of Durant’s own understanding of Jesus or the Gospel, nor the faith his family practiced. “I reminded her not to be a hypocritical Christian,” he said.
(DIR) Post #AyfYdO3NnhEJoxBGSW by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T15:40:02Z
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“I told her, You know, the Good Book, the Bible, says you judge a man as he lived, not as he died.”Durant left the conversation about Kirk’s death grateful that it had prompted a father-daughter talk about his child’s #worth as a #Black #girl & about having empathy for those marginalized by society. He hoped that this moment of beatifying #Kirk had passed.
(DIR) Post #AyfYgmR3bcwgJBs8W0 by peteriskrisjanis@toot.lv
2025-09-28T15:40:33Z
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@Nonilex and so America's incredibly awkward relation with it's internal neverending xenophobia and racism never ends, because no one wants to be frank about it.
(DIR) Post #AyfYlTkyTqmhpEQeSe by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T15:41:24Z
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But a few days later, #Oklahoma’s superintendent of #schools, #RyanWalters, directed all the state’s schools to observe a moment of silence in honor of #Kirk. Durant felt a shock that quickly flamed into outrage.People were free to mourn Kirk or not, he said, but the #state had no right to #order his #child & other #children to honor a man whose words had often denigrated them. “My initial thought was, Hell no — there’s no way.”
(DIR) Post #AyfYsxK4x6yHYBPixU by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T15:42:49Z
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He’d already decided that his daughter would not participate when, to his relief, the #Tulsa #PublicSchools, a district that is majority #Black & #Latino, & several other #Oklahoma #school districts announced that they would not comply with the dictate. For that, they now face a state #investigation for failing to commemorate the activist who Walters said was a champion of free speech, civil debate & conservative & Christian values.
(DIR) Post #AyfZE9NNKmMd0v3uWe by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T15:46:14Z
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#Oklahoma, of course, is a deeply red state. But in the wake of Kirk’s death, individuals & institutions across the nation moved not just to condemn his killing & political violence, but to venerate him. It was unsettling to many to see politicians from across the political spectrum speak with reverence about a man who espoused the #racist #GreatReplacementTheory, which argues that #white Americans are being systematically replaced by #multiculturalism & by #brown & #Black #immigrants;
(DIR) Post #AyfZF9c3wGx42QPW1g by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T15:46:52Z
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who continuously claimed that “there’s a war on white people in this country; who said it was “a fact” that “prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people”; who gave a platform to people who believe in #eugenics & race *science*; who contended that Black people commit more crime than white people & that the blame lies in a Black culture that accepts that Black men “impregnate women & they don’t stay around”;
(DIR) Post #AyfZPxK9y6jX6vBg8m by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T15:48:48Z
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who referred to a #transgender athlete as an “abomination” & called “the transgender thing” a “throbbing middle finger to God”; & who declared that #Islam, the world’s second-largest #religion, “is not compatible with Western civilization” & that it is a sword being used “to slit the throat of America.”
(DIR) Post #AyfZdPxKpLcNfvvjzU by jaycee@toot.community
2025-09-28T15:51:12Z
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@Nonilex Kirk was, in the vernacular, a horrid twat. Giving Nazis free range and empathy just makes them stronger! I say Fuck Kirk and his vile rhetoric. My empathy is for the victims of such rhetoric!
(DIR) Post #AyfZga9rLw62BXIViy by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T15:51:49Z
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Still, #NFL & #MLB teams held moments of silence. #CSPAN covered Kirk’s memorial service live. #Cardinal #TimothyDolan recounted how, after Kirk’s death, he spent time researching & determined that #Kirk was a “modern day St. Paul” & a “hero” albeit “pretty blunt” & “pretty direct.” Mainstream news outlets such as #CNN & #CBS invited #JackPosobiec to come speak about his friend’s “life’s work,” & about how to “fill this void” Kirk had left behind.
(DIR) Post #AyfZwQ2MkXabQfLONc by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T15:54:41Z
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These outlets did not mention that Posobiec is a #ConspiracyTheorist who has been labeled an #extremist by the #SouthernPovertyLawCenter because of his ties to #WhiteSupremacists & #neoNazis.Even #Democratic politicians felt compelled to pay tribute. Gov #JoshShapiro of #Pennsylvania ordered flags to be flown at half-staff “as a mark of respect for the memory of #CharlieKirk,” though he later criticized Kirk’s rhetoric.
(DIR) Post #AyfZyY2bxiDYpeTS5Y by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T15:55:04Z
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Gov #GavinNewsom of #California, who has crafted an image of himself as the face of the #MAGA #resistance, implored that “the best way to honor Charlie’s memory is to continue his work.” And last week, the House passed a bipartisan measure to honor #Kirk, with 95 #Democrats joining #Republicans to vote for a resolution in support of the man who said that President Joseph R. #Biden Jr. “should be put in prison and/or given the death penalty for his crimes against America.”
(DIR) Post #Ayfa6bNnQCf1VrDut6 by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T15:56:31Z
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Last year, The Washington Examiner, a #conservative news outlet, published a column calling the organization #Kirk co-founded, #TurningPointUSA, “one of the most destructive forces in Republican politics.” It said that “a healthy conservative movement cannot tolerate conspiracy theorists being presented as serious political figures” & called the organization’s leadership “toxic.” But the period since Kirk’s death has revealed a deeply unsettling cultural shift.
(DIR) Post #AyfaKVzAHkjmpNKvoG by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T15:59:03Z
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8 months into #Trump’s second term, it is clear that Kirk’s ideas are no longer considered on the #extremist periphery but are embraced by #Republican leadership.When Rep #JasmineCrockett (D-TX) bemoaned that only 2 of the 58 #Democrats who refused to sign the resolution honoring #Kirk were #white, #LauraLoomer responded on X by railing against “ghetto Black bitches who hate America serving in Congress.”
(DIR) Post #AyfaV9uMi13hXcAPxY by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T16:00:57Z
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#LauraLoomer is not merely some right-wing provocateur. She has the ear of the president of the United States & understood that such an explicitly #racist comment in 2025 America would bring no political consequence.
(DIR) Post #AyfaW2KoLuIaLGxIg4 by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T16:01:08Z
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And while #Trump has surrounded himself with people who have said racist things & maintained ties to #white & #Christian #nationalists, the number of #Democrats & esteemed American institutions that have engaged in the mainstreaming of #CharlieKirk demonstrates that espousing open & explicit #bigotry no longer relegates one to the fringe of political discourse, a phenomenon we have not witnessed since the #CivilRights era.
(DIR) Post #AyfagT23wijo2U9xmS by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T16:02:58Z
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In some parts of polite society, it now holds that if many of Kirk’s views were repugnant, his willingness to calmly argue about them & his insistence that people hash out their disagreements through discourse at a time of such division made him a free-speech advocate, & an exemplar of how we should engage politically across difference.
(DIR) Post #AyfakNSKcXXhu2JMK8 by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T16:03:43Z
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But for those who were directly targeted by #Kirk’s rhetoric, this thinking seems to place the civility of Kirk’s style of argument over the incivility of what he argued. Through gossamer tributes, Kirk’s cruel condemnation of #transgender people & his #racist throwback views about #Black Americans were no longer anathema but instead are being treated as just another political view to be respectfully debated — like a position on tax rates or health care policy.
(DIR) Post #Ayfb1yjlGOjoS1rBSa by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T16:06:54Z
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As the #Trump admin wages the broadest attack on #CivilRights in a century, & the shared societal values of #multiculturalism & tolerance recede, using Kirk’s knack for vigorous argument to excuse the re-emergence of unabashed #bigotry in #mainstream #politics feels both frightening & perilous.
(DIR) Post #Ayfb8gJa9gydLIo9PU by GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai
2025-09-28T16:08:07Z
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@Nonilex What is more about that particular passage translation regarding men laying with men is a relatively recent one. The word translated in the past, I think by Martin Luther as an example, as something different. I wish I had a direct reference to the date when the interpretation is homosexuality was made, but I think it came about maybe in the 18th century.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_homosexuality
(DIR) Post #AyfbFB1msVCMKoa87k by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T16:09:17Z
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#Kirk certainly produced viral moments by showing up on college campuses & inviting students a decade his junior to “prove” him wrong about a range of controversial topics such as #Black crime rates & the pitfalls of #feminism. But his rise to fame was predicated on the organization for which he served as executive director, #TurningPointUSA, & its #ProfessorWatchlist.
(DIR) Post #AyfbOb0DfqwlV4L7lA by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T16:10:59Z
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The #ProfessorWatchlist website invited college students not to engage in robust discussions with others with different ideologies, but to #report #professors who “advance leftist propaganda in the classroom.”The site includes photos of professors, along with often highly misleading summaries of the #ThoughtCrimes that landed them on the list.
(DIR) Post #AyfbY1HRLLixbat7gG by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T16:12:41Z
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It provides the telephone numbers of the #universities that employ them for students & parents to register their complaints. While the site claims the organization supports #FreeSpeech, many #professors have recounted enduring campaigns of #harassment after being put on the list. (Nikole Hannah-Jones was placed on it in 2021 because of her work on the #1619Project, after it was announced that she would be a professor at Howard University.)
(DIR) Post #Ayfbjsfz9v5AOZ1bU0 by pattykimura@beige.party
2025-09-28T16:14:46Z
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@Nonilex 💯Style (Kirk), in the Trump age, beats up, batters, stomps substance as a moral, intellectual, internet, communication, and societal value... degrading truth with dizzying speed. And setting the stage for the lies without the flimsy veneer of style (Stephen Miller) to triumph."Judge a man by how he lives, not how he dies."Thanks for this post and threads.
(DIR) Post #AyfbnQLMRPIxgJ4Esa by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T16:15:28Z
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A couple of years ago, Angel Jones, now a professor at a #university in Maryland whose work focuses on educational #inequality, joined the hundreds of #professors across the country who found themselves on the list.Jones landed on it under the tag “racial ideology” when she published an article citing research about how distressing it is for #Black people to go to work after witnessing news coverage of #police #killings.
(DIR) Post #Ayfbp7CSaTZet6i75E by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T16:15:47Z
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She said someone had sent her a picture of a house thought to be hers, but it turned out to belong to another Angel Jones. Someone else had threatened to hang her from a tree & burn her alive. The scholar changed her classroom & removed her name plate from her office door. The university where she was working at the time installed a safety alarm button under her desk.
(DIR) Post #AyfcAD5FuH0BDXOpRw by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T16:19:35Z
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“I would cry. I was very fearful. I was anxious,” Jones said. “I was afraid to go to class sometimes. I was just scared all of the time.“I love teaching — it makes my heart go pitter patter — so to be in a space where I am afraid of my students, like that rocks me in a way I can’t even articulate,” she added.
(DIR) Post #AyfcLqGsY5hlwNNnAO by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T16:21:40Z
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When Jones learned of Kirk’s killing, she remembers that there was a sense of disbelief shared by many Americans who were shocked by the gruesome video. But soon, that disbelief was replaced by another feeling. In the immediate hours after his death, she watched as pundits & politicians eulogized Kirk as that rare example of someone who practiced a willingness to hear opposing ideas because he saw it as the salve for political violence.
(DIR) Post #AyfcZ570gMdPjW50Ge by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T16:24:04Z
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After all she’d gone through, & the stories she’d heard of other professors similarly harassed, the tributes pouring in for Kirk both infuriated & saddened her.The next day, Jones went to the class she taught on misinformation & disinformation & showed her students a short Instagram video she had made in response.
(DIR) Post #Ayfcaeyuo2ODGn2vFw by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T16:24:22Z
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In the video, she says that while she does not celebrate Kirk’s death, she also refuses to mourn him. “I cannot have empathy for him losing his life when he put mine at risk & the lives of so many other educators just because we dared to advocate for social justice,” she says in the video, “because we dared to do our jobs.”
(DIR) Post #AyfcfH80v3bUjpVE92 by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T16:25:12Z
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After she showed the video, a white male student in her class asked Jones if she thought her lack of empathy for Kirk might radicalize students. After a short, tense exchange, the student took his backpack and left. Jones said it had made her nervous. There’s a Turning Point USA chapter on her campus, and Kirk’s followers and even some politicians had been posting about revenge on social media. Jones switched her classes to virtual for the week.
(DIR) Post #AyfckXc53XMFJU4qGm by GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai
2025-09-28T16:26:10Z
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@Nonilex But Mr. Klein calls them that sort of thing the right way to do politics and he is such a very fine person
(DIR) Post #AyfcmXTsWETXTxC2hU by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T16:26:29Z
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The past few weeks have filled Ash Lazarus Orr with a similar sense of foreboding. Orr has been at the forefront of resisting efforts to target #transgender Americans, including as a plaintiff in a federal lawsuit brought by the A.C.L.U. against a #Trump administration’s policy that would prevent transgender people from having their chosen gender on their passports.
(DIR) Post #AyfcsnmOpjpjlkqJRA by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T16:27:39Z
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While Orr was never named by #Kirk, they say Kirk’s rhetoric helped fuel an environment that makes #transgender Americans vulnerable to violence and that has paved the way for the removal of their #CivilRights; in February, #Iowa became the first state in the country to take away legal civil rights protections for transgender residents.
(DIR) Post #Ayfcw6iasPb3NJdfSy by peteriskrisjanis@toot.lv
2025-09-28T16:28:09Z
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@Nonilex you can't radicalise something that clearly just pretends to be civil, and clearly has made up his mind.
(DIR) Post #AyfdFqOjGUzCY9l5RA by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T16:31:47Z
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“I firmly believe that no one should be killed for their beliefs, no matter how harmful those beliefs might be,” Orr said. “But we are watching our rights being stripped away. We are having our friends’ lives cut short, & then we are told to stay quiet while those responsible are celebrated.”In just a few short years, Orr has watched as the momentum toward recognizing the full #humanity & #rights of #transgender people has collapsed.
(DIR) Post #AyfdciMdIhrOIHgR2O by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T16:35:48Z
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Orr recently left their home state of WV, finding it no longer safe after being threatened & assaulted.#Kirk’s rhetoric of “#Christian #white #nationalism, anti-#transgender, …anti-woke culture-war framing, this isn’t on the edge anymore,” Orr said. “It has moved into what many consider the center of #Republican identity.” They said they were deeply concerned about how few people seemed willing to point out the consequences of this shift: “Who is actually fighting for us?”
(DIR) Post #AyfdrKb9wXoEvhRpSq by PaulWermer@sfba.social
2025-09-28T16:38:27Z
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@Nonilex Just one more reason I'm so disappointed in the Democrats in Congress. Their response to the HRes 719 Kirk hagiography was cowardly and disgraceful. (Kudos to the 58 that voted NO)And kowtowing to the bigots doesn't appear to win you any votes, see https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/26/labour-reform-uk-nigel-farage-immigration-voters
(DIR) Post #AyfdrdLYEnc74nI8H2 by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T16:38:14Z
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Robin D.G. Kelley, a historian at UCLA whose scholarship on #RacialInjustice also landed him on the #ProfessorWatchlist, is struck by how rapidly our society has changed since #Trump took office a 2nd time.Kelley pointed to the fact that Trump was widely condemned during his first term when he called the #WhiteSupremacists who rallied in #Charlottesville, VA, “very fine people.”
(DIR) Post #Ayfe36lLD5htUfpGgS by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T16:40:34Z
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Now, #Democrats & #centrists were lining up to honor a man who promoted the same #GreatReplacementTheory that served as the rallying cry for that march. At a time when the president of the #US is using his power to go after #diversity efforts & engaging in a #MassDeportation project, some #progressives are arguing that #POC, #immigrants & members of other marginalized groups who felt dehumanized by #Kirk’s commentary, podcasts & debates have to find a way to locate common ground w/his followers.
(DIR) Post #Ayfe9AQ4Wi6eZalajY by Nonilex@masto.ai
2025-09-28T16:41:48Z
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“There has been an #extreme shift,” Kelley said. “This treatment is authorizing the idea that #WhiteSupremacy & #racism is not just a conservative idea, but a legitimate one.”
(DIR) Post #AyfeQyJsFj7sG4MELY by old_hippie@veganism.social
2025-09-28T16:44:59Z
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@Nonilex Thank you for this excellent thread. Great effort as always
(DIR) Post #AyfedMPmUcBQSn1nBA by steter@mastodon.stevesworld.co
2025-09-28T16:47:15Z
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@Nonilex Well, what is the mass media they consume telling them? People want to be in a herd and follow the leader. A ton of problems began with right-wing talk radio. Now it's media consolidation under billionaire fascists. Our unwillingness to break the chains binding us to right-wing media is our downfall.
(DIR) Post #Ayff8rA2EJ1gnVgIHQ by huntingdon@mstdn.social
2025-09-28T16:52:55Z
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@Nonilex Trump-Miller-Kirk behave as if empathy, something they're normally totally unfamiliar with, is mandatory, when Kirk is the issue. They respond violently to those who fail to show it. No empathy there.
(DIR) Post #AyfgVl07Oks2J7WheK by huntingdon@mstdn.social
2025-09-28T17:08:17Z
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@Nonilex Yeah, that is a whopper. Kirk's version of freedom was to find young people he might overwhelm, and thereby generate a video for his fundraising. What he did was not saved by his demeanor. It made it worse.
(DIR) Post #AyfjKEM6jSjRjk0VCS by PaulWermer@sfba.social
2025-09-28T17:38:30Z
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@Nonilex Yes, that's #opportunistic #GavinNewsom, at work. And that #Democrats think he might be a good Presidential candidate? #sheesh
(DIR) Post #Ayg0IA9P5r9XKxfHCi by Npars01@mstdn.social
2025-09-28T20:49:52Z
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@Nonilex What continues to amaze me is that these narratives whitewashing Charlie Kirk's deplorable views are funded.Donors Trust funds disinformation about Charlie Kirk, just as they co-opt every event to launch mass influence campaigns for partisan gain. These are mass PR campaigns launched at the behest of the wealthiest people on the planet.Few mainstream media outlets wants to examine the funding behind these disinformation campaigns. https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacheverson/2025/09/22/turning-point-usa-charlie-kirk-donors-texas-foundation/
(DIR) Post #AygIC6GCRXqsi06Oqu by goss@c.im
2025-09-28T21:34:24Z
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@Nonilex Well said 👏
(DIR) Post #B1ZzszpTjypUtPea8G by software_libero_e_dintorni@mastodon.bida.im
2025-12-24T16:53:25Z
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@Nonilex :gnu: 💯 🆓 :awesome:
(DIR) Post #B1ZztmR31bOzdpbGM4 by software_libero_e_dintorni@mastodon.bida.im
2025-12-24T16:53:33Z
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@Nonilex :0520:
(DIR) Post #B2PvEfRAWLMDWL1ryS by Grumblesock@clew.lol
2026-01-18T18:06:20.821040Z
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@Nonilex
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2026-01-18T18:11:11.879110Z
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@Nonilex Whites are only group I consider human