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 (DIR) Post #Ayf22a2z35mjlpOpE0 by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-09-28T09:34:48Z
       
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       So, I hear about this "medbed" thing and search youTube to find some kind of overview about the scam but none of the results do that. They are just advertisements for medbeds or people who think they are real.That's bad.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ayf29Qzp6Amhj6Bnns by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-09-28T09:36:00Z
       
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       Oh one "medbed" video says "do not get scammed" but it's about how you have to get the real "military" medbed, not the fakes. :/This is really sad.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ayf3LGNUVEI2DvSpdo by drexer@ciberlandia.pt
       2025-09-28T09:49:19Z
       
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       @futurebird shit just tried to do the same search and its awfully true. I thought the results might be biased from the USA side compared to the rest of the world but no, its just a complete radicalization pipeline inside youtube.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ayf3YxUbVxRNhqK06C by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-09-28T09:51:52Z
       
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       @drexer This is a scam that targets very sick people. People in horrible pain. People who are scared their loved one is dying and nothing can be done. It's a kind of scam I have a particular ire for. I think people have mostly been laughing at it, but this is very real for some people and they think it's their only chance to live. And when they are dead AND broke the scammers will keep their money.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ayf3lGsPGsqFIcKHdA by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-09-28T09:54:04Z
       
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       @tootbrute @drexer We are a people of endless creativity.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ayf3sFMTIpZscxiOTA by davep@infosec.exchange
       2025-09-28T09:55:18Z
       
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       @futurebird @tootbrute @drexer And simplistic idiocy.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ayf4RuWWFsLuQOQ8au by JamesWidman@mastodon.social
       2025-09-28T10:01:44Z
       
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       @futurebird It's so destructively dumb that i don't even get to laugh at the fact that, in his dumb medbed post on truth social 8-ish hours ago, he like... uploaded an a.i. deepfake of his own voice.He just let someone use a computer to generate a counterfeit replica of his voice, dubbed over video of him, and he just uploaded that as if it were something he said out loud in front of a camera in real life. And though the message is garbage, it sounds uncharacteristically coherent (for him).
       
 (DIR) Post #Ayf555RBbwM7ZFbg0m by JamesWidman@mastodon.social
       2025-09-28T10:04:15Z
       
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       @futurebird But no, we can't spend time laughing about that, because now magats are going to be talking about medbeds, a medical technology concept so silly that it was never even depicted on star trek in its 59-year, thousand-ish episode history.star trek, a show with food/matter replicators, warp engines, instant dermal generators, telepathy, and Q. Medbeds are too silly for that type of fantasy.In star trek, in the 24th century, people still die in sickbay.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ayf556RZryGMgknVGC by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-09-28T10:08:52Z
       
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       @JamesWidman The Drops of Truth:* rich people have access to better medicine* medical knowledge has exceeded what one person can learn in a lifetime* people in the US pay a lot for medical care but don't get their money's worthThe Emotional Hook:* A simple solution for all the pain.Who wouldn't want this to be real? It's silly but I understand the attraction.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfIKSYlDy9t1loITo by epicdemiologist@wandering.shop
       2025-09-28T12:29:52Z
       
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       @tootbrute @drexer @futurebird Jesus. It's like the bastard child of the quackiest claims for hyperbaric chambers and Original Series Star Trek.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfIKTv8AHe9FRHfzE by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-09-28T12:37:15Z
       
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       @epicdemiologist @tootbrute @drexer I've found a bunch of private facebook groups where people discuss this stuff. I think that's where the real action (financial transactions) are happening. Some of these groups seem to be "pay to join" just to find out more about the medbeds. They have a lot of members. We may not hear from those who are scammed since they feel shame, or they die (this targets the terminally ill) or they are convinced they will get to use the bed if they stay quiet.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfIZyOl8BlI7KWtRw by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-09-28T12:40:07Z
       
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       @epicdemiologist @tootbrute @drexer In case this needs to be said. Medbeds don't exist. Many of the photos are AI generated and based on MRI machines which larger hospitals use to scan people for things like cancerous tumors, or to plan complex surgeries. In the past hyperbolic chambers were used to treat polio. No one is hiding this technology. Want "do your own research?" wikipedia is OK for this topic. Do not give someone thousands of dollars if they say you must keep it a secret.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfIi1yphK79XiFFSK by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-09-28T12:41:34Z
       
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       @epicdemiologist @tootbrute @drexer I promise if a medbed was real I would find it because I have a friend who needs one and I'm not someone who cares if people think I'm looking into something "crazy" I don't care. But there is nothing here but scams and more scammers.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfIkn8JM6IkMczjTE by CatDragon@mastodon.world
       2025-09-28T12:42:03Z
       
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       @futurebird it’s ridiculous. How can they not understand that if such a thing existed they’d be advertised everywhere? Can’t watch the local news without ads for the latest greatest prescriptions and a real med bed would be a license to print money.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfIuDsxGCc9wPJEFk by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-09-28T12:43:47Z
       
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       @CatDragon "How can they not understand that if such a thing existed they’d be advertised everywhere?"The conspiracy is that it's alien technology, or human technology that no one knows how to replicate and there are only a few thousand beds, so "they" don't want it to be public since it's a limited resource and "they" want to hog it all for themselves. Which is kind of believable. The part about rich people doing something like that... not the aliens as much.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfIxXh24XTmF5JcGm by mattmcirvin@mathstodon.xyz
       2025-09-28T12:44:19Z
       
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       @futurebird @epicdemiologist @tootbrute @drexer The belief really seems to be based on an idea that a common science-fiction plot device (the "autodoc", a robotic hospital in a tube that can just fix you up) is real.I suppose it was overdetermined that it in a world with artificial scarcity of medical care and a widespread need to believe in magical health cures, an idea like this would thrive. But I actually never heard of it until today--it entered the QAnon conspiracy world after I'd stopped paying attention to their madness.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfJ8g6P9BlDVaUcc4 by SnowyCA@social.vivaldi.net
       2025-09-28T12:46:21Z
       
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       @futurebird @CatDragon Maybe this is helpful?https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/donald-trump-publishes-ai-video-35978622
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfJLrcvbuDv12zdEe by CatDragon@mastodon.world
       2025-09-28T12:48:45Z
       
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       @futurebird let’s also discuss how absolutely vile and immoral it is that Facebook no longer polices medical misinformation.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfJSZbuzcazANihPs by afewbugs@social.coop
       2025-09-28T12:49:56Z
       
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       @futurebird the Sawbones podcast had a good episode on medbeds https://maximumfun.org/episodes/sawbones/sawbones-tesla-medbed/
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfJUBDwdIpy6zGxvs by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-09-28T12:50:17Z
       
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       @CatDragon These facebook groups are dark alleyways and they are luring little old ladies and men back there to mug them. Maybe in a few years we will hear from the people harmed by this ... but some simple rules could stop it from happening at all.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfJZbk9SgFFoAvQmW by zenkat@sfba.social
       2025-09-28T12:51:14Z
       
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       @futurebird The problem is, there are a large number of people who cannot distinguish TV from reality.  It's all just a blur of X-Files and Fox News and YouTube, completely unconnected from any grounding in truth or reality. The age of Mind Plagues has arrived.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfJjNLzogzu4kHhGS by CatDragon@mastodon.world
       2025-09-28T12:52:10Z
       
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       @SnowyCA @futurebird pppffttt if it were true the orange toddler wouldn’t look like a canned ham left out in the rain on a hot August weekend.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfJjP2vWYvrKBNUoq by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-09-28T12:53:01Z
       
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       @CatDragon @SnowyCA No you don't understand he gave up his spot to save a terminally ill child.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfJpPm9j09BKBOrxo by SnowyCA@social.vivaldi.net
       2025-09-28T12:54:04Z
       
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       @futurebird @CatDragon HA!🏆 oooh good one.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfJtJtzVMCsGYvXm4 by CatDragon@mastodon.world
       2025-09-28T12:54:48Z
       
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       @futurebird @SnowyCA oh of course he did.Shame they didn’t have one close enough to save Saint Charlie isn’t it?
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfK7Md6A1E8mOiqrw by zenkat@sfba.social
       2025-09-28T12:57:18Z
       
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       @futurebird @epicdemiologist @tootbrute @drexer Scammers have preyed on the terminally ill for a long time.  Remember laetrile back in the 70's?  Here's a classic Doonesbury strip from 1977 to help you remember ...
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfKI7vx8jd2O1fpMO by glennsills@dotnet.social
       2025-09-28T12:59:16Z
       
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       @futurebird @CatDragon Cixin Liu wrote a short story (turned into a manga) "Taking Care of God". Something exactly like a medbed is important in the story and is called a cradle. Summary: the cradle; e.g. medbed, using technology that the users do not understand but allows them to live 4000 years. I recommend the story, but not the cradle.I like Sci-Fi, but I people using it to sell stuff based on it, and in some cases, not understanding that "Fi" stands for "fiction" is getting old.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfKQhJjT7A2RXsoe8 by epicdemiologist@wandering.shop
       2025-09-28T13:00:49Z
       
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       @futurebird @tootbrute @drexer If medbeds were real, Donald Trump would look like his AI avatar in all those flag-and-eagle images.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfKRXbb3wLec0doi8 by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-09-28T13:00:56Z
       
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       @glennsills @CatDragon I was researching this because I thought it might be the kind of scam one of the characters in my book might be running. And I might still run with that but I'm mostly disturbed to see something like this in its early stages. I think this will grow and get worse before it gets better.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfKVvEz83sX4e9bEG by sahqon@beige.party
       2025-09-28T13:01:45Z
       
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       @futurebird @CatDragon But even so, "they'd" advertise it and then charge half a billion per use, not give it away for a few thousands to the crafty few who found them.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfKaNhvET1IWJobeS by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-09-28T13:02:36Z
       
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       @epicdemiologist @tootbrute @drexer How many times do I need to explain to you that he gave his spot to a terminally ill child. TDS* is real and medbeds won't cure THAT. *Trump Derangement Syndrome*This is satire of what I encountered when I tried to bring up this very reasonable point.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfKjOSfnXyDStyozY by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-09-28T13:04:14Z
       
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       @sahqon @CatDragon No you don't understand. With the help of Trump and other patriots a few medbeds have been liberated from the deepstate and they are simply looking for the god fearing Americans who need them most. If you join my facebook group you can learn more. Sadly there is a waitlist, and it's very expensive for me to run this group. Donations are appreciated.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfKq5klkk1zTCddJY by sahqon@beige.party
       2025-09-28T13:05:24Z
       
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       @futurebird @CatDragon Damn you convinced me. I need to make a facebook group...
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfL1dUudImXJMj50K by epicdemiologist@wandering.shop
       2025-09-28T13:07:28Z
       
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       @futurebird @tootbrute @drexer The thought of Trump showing compassion to anyone, let alone a terminally ill child, is even less plausible than medbeds.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfL8UPcoI51A2WMGe by sinvega@mas.to
       2025-09-28T13:08:44Z
       
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       @futurebird @CatDragon sufficiently rich people become morons over time. They would want us to know they have them and rub it in our faces. And there are enough bootlickers out there that they'd defend it. I mean, just look at the "trickle down" gibberish
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfL9sZAUYoUMXeC5A by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-09-28T13:08:58Z
       
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       @epicdemiologist @tootbrute @drexer A segment of the population simply isn't able to see that this is true at all. Kind of hard to understand but once you understand this suddenly a lot of the other things people are falling for starts to make sense.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfLTUeX6xd9zJVeGe by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-09-28T13:12:33Z
       
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       @epicdemiologist @tootbrute @drexer To many people Trump is a likable and tough fatherly figure who is honest about his failings and not scared to call out the BS that comes from newspapers and TV shows. And he never confuses you by talking over your head, he makes the issues simple when most people just want to over-complicate everything because they are hiding something. Can you see it now?
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfLgB5f9gML54FPg8 by epicdemiologist@wandering.shop
       2025-09-28T13:14:50Z
       
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       @futurebird @tootbrute @drexer Yes, I know. I've seen it before. PTL club, "Perhaps Today", etc. etc. etc.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfMiILjEk5O7zKs5Y by pteryx@dice.camp
       2025-09-28T13:26:23Z
       
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       @futurebird @CatDragonFunny thing is, the first alien-made sci-fi "medbed" that pops to mind are the sarcophagi from Stargate... y'know, the ones that turn you into an evil megalomaniacal addict.It says something that people are so desperate for improvements in their own lives that they'd favor a miracle cure for the existence of the health care system over a easy explanation for money and power corrupting.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfaTrHcTEWzUHQLSa by realtegan@wandering.shop
       2025-09-28T16:00:40Z
       
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       @futurebird I've seen these... in science fiction.Seriously, this is terrifying that people believe it's real. I guess it's because the orange stain is somehow still kicking despite obvious signs of... anyway... I'll crawl back into my non-medbed hole now.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfoGxPVmE1W5IrFE8 by IngaLovinde@embracing.space
       2025-09-28T18:35:13Z
       
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       @futurebird if medbeds weren't really, then how come all superhero / SF TV series have them???
       
 (DIR) Post #AyfrU7GElRZQGJUC6S by lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net
       2025-09-28T19:11:09Z
       
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       @futurebird This exactly.Trump won because he's *very* good at being a conman.People who keep pretending that his communication skills are bad are deluding themselves.@epicdemiologist @tootbrute @drexer
       
 (DIR) Post #Ayh48CsqfgmDtNOCBM by maswan@mastodon.acc.sunet.se
       2025-09-29T09:07:36Z
       
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       @futurebird There is an even worse worst case: They go for the scam instead of an effective treatment, and this scam actually kills people that didn't have to die.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyhDM39iXGPtMZxHiy by paulc@mstdn.social
       2025-09-29T10:50:58Z
       
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       @futurebird @drexer I've noticed in the dementia world that a group of people believe that there MUST be a cure. And if the medical world doesn't have it—or worse is hiding it for nefarious reasons—then “alternative medicine” MUST have the cure. And thus people are more open to scams.This is made worse by poor understanding of science. I remember in discussions in youth that my rabbi said “what if you do this and there is a cure tomorrow.” Doesn't work this way.
       
 (DIR) Post #AyhbLnsLkDVosAFNPk by stevegis_ssg@mas.to
       2025-09-29T15:19:51Z
       
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       @futurebird @drexer It's kinda like the people who sell counterfeit medications.What do you have to have going on inside your head?