Post AyTs0TkdXfkLyEzSmu by vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de
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(DIR) Post #AyTezBm7amuaWcju8u by foone@digipres.club
2025-09-22T21:54:13Z
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man when people were telling me that smart TVs are a privacy nightmare, I thought that was because they recorded what you watched using their built in media-player OS.NOPE! Apparently Roku TV's will give you popups based on what DVDs you're watching through them, because they screenshot the HDMI-in and compare it to a database. that's a few steps creepier than I was expecting from a garden variety privacy invasion
(DIR) Post #AyTfCVVhWqZVUtPSE4 by foone@digipres.club
2025-09-22T21:56:32Z
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we've got one "smart" TV in the house and it's not using its internal smartness, we have it hooked up to a apple TV. but now I gotta go dig in the options and see if I have to turn off "SCREENSHOT ALL OUR CONTENT AND MAIL IT TO A SERVER"
(DIR) Post #AyTfEOA7orpfHrDNL6 by twinspin6@outerheaven.club
2025-09-22T21:57:22.258271Z
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@foone that sure is disturbing and user-hostile
(DIR) Post #AyTfFdL6sPN4eDwjeS by Canageek@wandering.shop
2025-09-22T21:56:59Z
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@foone see mine has voice recognition, so it is very much never allowed to know a Wi-Fi password, as far as it knows, I don't have internet and will never have internet
(DIR) Post #AyTfLDG6kyxPUuGctM by EllisDee@wolfgirl.bar
2025-09-22T21:58:41.882464Z
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@foone or just watch hardcore furry porn until someone kills themselves
(DIR) Post #AyTfYrRMfqdjso2YtM by avatastic@avatastic.uk
2025-09-22T22:00:24Z
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@foone When I plugged my first ever Smart TV into my network, the first thing I did was watch the traffic it was sending.It was phoning home with the OTA broadcast viewing we were doing.
(DIR) Post #AyTfcXQB2xACx9EphA by foone@digipres.club
2025-09-22T22:01:01Z
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@EllisDee I would but it's so hard to find that on laserdisc
(DIR) Post #AyTfhE2UXI7mHxOWg4 by otte_homan@theblower.au
2025-09-22T22:01:16Z
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@foone ... does it use fqdns and DNS so that a po.hole can block the shit out of it, or does it use hard coded ips so that a pfsense can redirect all GET and POST requests to a /dev/null -> http://503 ?
(DIR) Post #AyTfkAmt59NV4YV9GK by foone@digipres.club
2025-09-22T22:02:06Z
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@otte_homan rokus have used DNS-over-https for a while now, specifically to stop people DNS-blocking their ads
(DIR) Post #AyTg6fK4EYD298kKW0 by KanaMauna@sauropods.win
2025-09-22T22:06:42Z
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@foone Yeah I was disappointed when I found out about this “feature”. Not a fan of our vacation pics being collected by a crazy stalker corporation.
(DIR) Post #AyTgA492Ozl802D07M by timoj@mastodon.online
2025-09-22T22:06:05Z
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@foone Please. The Foone I know would already have it on an isolated segment and fooling it into phoning home to a Windows ME machine distributing decontextualized Carmen Sandiego context in the typeface from Williams’ arcade classic, Joust!
(DIR) Post #AyTgA5PNhiQVv0rZEO by foone@digipres.club
2025-09-22T22:06:50Z
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@timoj it's not my TV! it's my roommate's! I try not to force everyone in my house to deal with my bullshit. I mean, other than my wife, but she signed up for it. even with her I try to lessen the impact a bit.
(DIR) Post #AyTgIAey3za0WR0aa8 by jbrownesq@mastodon.social
2025-09-22T22:06:37Z
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@foone the apple TV is safer than "insert smart TV brand here"? Have you looked at what the apple TV is doing on the network?
(DIR) Post #AyTgIBwjHRNiVoKHuC by foone@digipres.club
2025-09-22T22:08:24Z
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@jbrownesq nope! but it's not my apple TV, so that issue is out of my hand. I just figured that at least we'd only be dealing with the apple TV spying on us... but no, the roku-tv is spying on what the apple TV has already spied on!
(DIR) Post #AyTgLM2AEOBkfQNOaW by mast0d0nphan@mastodon.social
2025-09-22T22:07:58Z
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@foone I'm rocking a dumb Samsung 27" 1080p TV with a degoogled Onn 4K tv box. The little Onn box fucking rules!
(DIR) Post #AyTgLN2CVjoPlpOwHg by foone@digipres.club
2025-09-22T22:09:07Z
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@mast0d0nphan I've been meaning to get one of those. I keep thinking I'll go for a NUC and libreElec or something, but it's a lot more work than I have energy for at the moment.
(DIR) Post #AyTgRPEtE8BcLUDLzE by kuki@layer8.space
2025-09-22T22:10:22Z
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@foone its not a particularly surprising point given the state of *everything* but i do still feel like pointing out the hypocrisy of HDCP controlling where you send an hdmi signal to make sure nothing gets recorded as if anyone would want to do that instead of ripping it directly, streaming services blacking out when you take a screenshot...but for spying purposes that stuff is apparently super duper okie dokie
(DIR) Post #AyTggHzYSFLmDD8djE by timoj@mastodon.online
2025-09-22T22:11:00Z
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@foone @otte_homan Roku is an AdTech company that conveys content, not a content company with ads. They’re like Google, but with better long term hardware support.
(DIR) Post #AyTggJVUoyUiuZ5f9c by foone@digipres.club
2025-09-22T22:13:13Z
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@timoj @otte_homan eh, "better" is debatable
(DIR) Post #AyTgk1IKTaclaKhOYy by foone@digipres.club
2025-09-22T22:13:32Z
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@kuki yeah as long as someone is just doing it to make money, that's fine.
(DIR) Post #AyTgoVoWwpZ5Ohu2Lo by foone@digipres.club
2025-09-22T22:14:37Z
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@gme I've been trying to get off them for a while, but they make a very convenient box to watch youtube on. I've not had the energy to build out a libreelec box or something similar
(DIR) Post #AyTgzVbg3iW3wL8P0C by foone@digipres.club
2025-09-22T22:16:33Z
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@tw I guess once one of them does it and we don't show up with pitchforks and torches at their doorstep, the rest of them are going to do it too or they're getting red-queened by the advancement in adtech
(DIR) Post #AyTh4ASS7Jr7nQ2cFM by uint8_t@chaos.social
2025-09-22T22:17:32Z
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@foone -j DROP
(DIR) Post #AyThJ3elgd8b2ttz5U by sebbs@dotnet.social
2025-09-22T22:20:03Z
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@foone so how long until you send them Never Going To Give You Up or Bee Movie frame by frame on repeat?
(DIR) Post #AyThRJEDfu7fepQ0n2 by baishen@mastodon.online
2025-09-22T22:21:08Z
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@foone @otte_homan What resolver are they using for DoH?I know that they hard code 8.8.8.8 as a DNS server regardless of what you configure.
(DIR) Post #AyThRKVcufdnd6ZQYq by foone@digipres.club
2025-09-22T22:21:40Z
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@baishen @otte_homan don't know off the top of my head. I assume something they maintain?
(DIR) Post #AyTjGK1OaMIkqAJD7I by envyniv@toot.community
2025-09-22T22:42:00Z
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@foone turn off smart tv's wifi but keep the apple tv's as it is?
(DIR) Post #AyTjQhuwaznJqeF9TE by smadin@better.boston
2025-09-22T22:43:57Z
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@foone well that's not great! guess I need to do some digging on whether the fairly old TCL in my office does this.
(DIR) Post #AyTjYb2e2lVeq8bhrc by foone@digipres.club
2025-09-22T22:45:22Z
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here's the page I was linked to (from a tumblr post I've lost track of) on how to turn this off on various TVs: https://www.consumerreports.org/electronics/privacy/how-to-turn-off-smart-tv-snooping-features-a4840102036/
(DIR) Post #AyTn3rAASFAJg9iuh6 by niklasschr@chaos.social
2025-09-22T23:24:29Z
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@foone is it just broken for me?
(DIR) Post #AyTn8SSRje82VNT2Fk by lorgonumputz@beige.party
2025-09-22T23:25:28Z
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@foone @baishen @otte_homan I still manage to block Roku ads using PiHole - but I also block the ability to reach any other DNS endpoints but the ones I provide. Roku absolutely will try to reach out to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4. I would think if Roku were using DoH I would have seen this by now. Not saying you're wrong - but I cannot find any indication of DoH in the Roku's I herd at home. I'm glad, too. DoH is a pain to block.
(DIR) Post #AyTo72QX8ELdR7SXjc by remotenemesis@masto.hackers.town
2025-09-22T23:35:31Z
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@foone wild huh? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_content_recognition
(DIR) Post #AyTrI1BEPJrIcLEGyO by foone@digipres.club
2025-09-23T00:12:01Z
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@niklasschr seems to still be working for me
(DIR) Post #AyTrnU01JB8myXzMrg by prokyonid@mastodon.sdf.org
2025-09-23T00:17:17Z
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@foone what else do you expect from a company whose two product lines are 'streaming devices' and 'security cameras'?
(DIR) Post #AyTs0TkdXfkLyEzSmu by vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de
2025-09-23T00:20:03Z
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@foone @mast0d0nphan if you get "hotel/prison" TV (might only be available in smaller screen sizes) or "commercial signage display monitor" (might be available cheaply from businesses which are closing down?) those generally don't have the surveillance baked in..
(DIR) Post #AyTw6AS2bxlhfQGD2G by foone@digipres.club
2025-09-23T01:05:49Z
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@ireneista how are they sending data back, with no lan? are they just sticking a sim card in there?
(DIR) Post #AyTwXNukfE7VEzfSV6 by foone@digipres.club
2025-09-23T01:10:50Z
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@ireneista ahh, fun!
(DIR) Post #AyTwk7fUNVJccQbQOG by sleepy62@social.vivaldi.net
2025-09-23T01:13:05Z
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@foone Disconnect it form the internet and NEVER EVER upgrade the firmware.
(DIR) Post #AyTyGp8uNOIGfoWJqS by azonenberg@ioc.exchange
2025-09-23T01:30:13Z
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@foone if you haven't physically desoldered the antenna assume it's phoning home somehow or trying to.
(DIR) Post #AyU76VJc8cuzs6gKo4 by galefernow@dotgr.id
2025-09-23T03:09:07Z
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@foone so this post prompted me to check my TV and I get this checkbox with no label 🫠
(DIR) Post #AyU8uwGoILinu5z1km by msokiovt@social.veraciousnetwork.com
2025-09-23T03:28:51Z
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@foone I think this is all the more reason for me to find an office TV or something other than one of these consumer TV's for this exact reason.
(DIR) Post #AyUAbs7tg2LLSTqm7U by neverbeaten@mas.to
2025-09-23T03:48:35Z
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@foone This is why my TV stays offline.
(DIR) Post #AyUChLOQUY4HaEJooK by nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social
2025-09-23T04:11:56Z
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@foone Yeah, modern TVs can't be allowed to connect online. If one wants a Roku or other such streaming device, it has to be external. (Which still means lots of tracking and such, but at least it can't see everything else you're doing.)
(DIR) Post #AyUDlZBHGpGPSTkIN6 by Njord@mastodon.gamedev.place
2025-09-23T04:23:48Z
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@foone My smart TV is sad, because I have never let it connect to the internet. Every so often it complains about that, and I just smile.
(DIR) Post #AyUGtrKfy0ItvwmtQO by prozacchiwawa@functional.cafe
2025-09-23T04:58:59Z
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@foone i wonder if that's even technically allowed if you license hdcp (obviously not that it matters, but curious).it does say"Individual Privacy Respected. Adopter shall not use any portion of the HDCPSpecification, any implementation thereof or the Device Keys or KSVs for the purpose ofidentifying any individual or creating, or facilitating the creation of, any means of collectingor aggregating information about an individual or any device or product in which HDCP, orany portion thereof, is implemented"
(DIR) Post #AyUK3akol8cTH7LcQq by Uair@autistics.life
2025-09-23T05:34:14Z
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@foone Cheer up kid, 'cuz it's about to get a whole lot worse:https://www.pocket-lint.com/do-smart-tvs-have-cameras/
(DIR) Post #AyUKHsC2iZFTPptMEi by Noortjevee@mstdn.social
2025-09-23T05:36:58Z
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@foone so what you are saying...flood roku with "adult" movies on dvd....(But in all seriousness, thats messed up)
(DIR) Post #AyULagCzbIrXharrHM by haleyem@disabled.social
2025-09-23T05:51:32Z
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@foone I had my smart TV connected to wifi for a bit because it was handy being able to chromecast stuff from my phone to the TV, but then one day when I was testing an unrelated networking thing I noticed that it was just constantly pinging my home server for some reason and I didn't like that so I keep it in airplane mode now.
(DIR) Post #AyUODRKh2fuylf4zlQ by ditsch42@troet.cafe
2025-09-23T06:20:52Z
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@foone I was wondering why Netflix was advertising the second part of a show I had just started watching on Blu-Ray via my PS3...
(DIR) Post #AyUUwgBFHkGfZacE3U by m0rpk@mastodon.radio
2025-09-23T07:36:02Z
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@foone Why would you let a ‘smart TV’ communicate externally if you only use it as a display for an AppleTV?
(DIR) Post #AyUt23cAn1iW0yw3fM by kithrup@wandering.shop
2025-09-23T12:06:15Z
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@foone We've had "smart" TVs for over a decade now. They've rarely been hooked up to the internet. (I hooked up an LG TV to get a firmware update for dolby, and then disconnected it right after.)*So far*, I don't think any of them brick themselves if they're not connected, but I'm pretty sure that day is coming.
(DIR) Post #AyUuDN2Z0QO1OzEoIy by undead@masto.hackers.town
2025-09-23T12:19:25Z
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@foone Our Roku TV died, and we purchased a Sceptre TV. Couldn't be happier.No smart parts to it. Just inputs. Connected a refurbed PC and leave tabs open for our streaming site of choice.
(DIR) Post #AyVAerxRlIyWNNykRE by xyhhx@nso.group
2025-09-23T15:23:41Z
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@foone I keep seeing this and it gives me whiplash every time
(DIR) Post #AyVC04MGx7cus3GPFA by untsuki@udongein.xyz
2025-09-23T15:39:18.245694Z
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@foone I sure hope they won't use that exact feature for drm.They won't right?They won't?
(DIR) Post #AyVPkGObpNiqviiKMS by joncruz@mstdn.social
2025-09-23T18:12:43Z
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@foone a while back we got a smart TV, as it was the only affordable one in the size we needed. I refused to give it any form of access, and only used external devices & dongles with it.A year later Samsung responded to a factory robbery of that model of TV by remotely bricking all the stolen TVs.My wife originally had thought me vigilant rather than paranoid, but after Samsung took action she downgraded me to just normally cautious.
(DIR) Post #AyVROMH1UgpUhFqeMS by crazy_pony@rubber.social
2025-09-23T18:31:12Z
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@foone Next step: discover that Samsung "Smart" TV have camera and microphone builtin (for gestures and voice control) and they sent pictures of you in your room to the Samsung HQ
(DIR) Post #AyVWT8Q0vw5Swe9OsK by crazy_pony@rubber.social
2025-09-23T18:35:55Z
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@ireneista @foone We should expect that its just a matter of few years until all your devices (and your neighbours as well) are forming a mesh network independ of any user settings, and use any available device as bridge to the internet
(DIR) Post #AyVWT9NvLC0dwSBFFw by foone@digipres.club
2025-09-23T19:27:57Z
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@crazy_pony @ireneista eh, I suspect they're gonna start sticking sims in them to just talk to a mobile network
(DIR) Post #AyVX68eU02OUxjW688 by foone@digipres.club
2025-09-23T19:35:02Z
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@cinnamon I guess! I figure they're getting away with it because they're the TV here, they kinda have to un-DRM it in order to display anything in the first place
(DIR) Post #AyaKMoWtjvrJraOE6q by anthropy@mastodon.derg.nz
2025-09-26T03:05:57Z
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@foone I refuse to buy a tv smart enough to need an internet connection.I will *never* hook up my tv to the internet, nor my desktop screen, nor my car, nor my solar inverters, nor my home cleaning activities, nor my doorbell or security cameras.If any of these devices comes with a sim, I will remove it. I don't care if it degrades it and I could e.g warm up my car with an app. it's an entirely unnecessary backdoor into my life that I just don't care enough about to keep around.
(DIR) Post #AyaLe7HfMgGouE4zWC by cinebox@masto.hackers.town
2025-09-26T03:20:12Z
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@foone it cant do that if you fill the TV’s ethernet port with epoxy
(DIR) Post #AyaR2u5I4qoiyivhWS by foone@digipres.club
2025-09-26T04:20:59Z
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@cinebox wifi
(DIR) Post #AyfK4oSKFMjGDET18q by ity@estradiol.city
2025-09-28T12:56:19Z
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@foone how difficult it is to just attach to the display controller and bypass all of the smart TV bullshit
(DIR) Post #AzJOgca710xAWon3Ds by isocat@tiggi.es
2025-10-17T20:56:28Z
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@foone Endlessly adorbz, these pretenses at being able to disable the snoop 'features'. Some of them really look authentic!