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(DIR) Post #AyPvhecyVC35NxqWAa by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-21T02:43:08Z
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Somethings going around amongst the American Evangelicals and people on tiktok are saying the rapture, will happen on the 23rd or 24th. This happens every few years and nothing is learned. But, technically *I'm* an evangelical Christian. I went to a baptist church for all my youth and mysteriously didn't have any of the traumatic experiences I've heard about. Never heard a word about "rapture" Mostly just a lot of "if you think you are saved you probably aren't BE BETTER"
(DIR) Post #AyPwIdLYEBZW7wKTrM by janggolan@mastodon.social
2025-09-21T02:49:46Z
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@futurebird yeah, instead I remember we spent time trying to convince our Bible study's sponsor that The Doobie Brothers really were "Just All Right" too…
(DIR) Post #AyPwJKXlcdtS6HNLN2 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-21T02:49:51Z
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Lots of "don't be greedy" "don't exploit others""don't think you are better than anyone""don't trust anyone who says they know the exact letter of God's will."I still kind of have those values. I'll think "maybe I shouldn't go on a vacation, maybe I should help people with that money that's what Jesus would do."It used to really worry me when I was a kid.
(DIR) Post #AyPwTbfEp7Mc5ulnxA by smellsofbikes@mastodon.social
2025-09-21T02:51:45Z
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@futurebird there's a whole-ass parable about how people who think they're gonna predict when are wrong and are gonna be left out, but selective reading skills are apparently very strong.
(DIR) Post #AyPwVYGyP4qm9hLdQm by johnefrancis@cosocial.ca
2025-09-21T02:52:08Z
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@futurebird are they giving away all their worldly property yet?
(DIR) Post #AyPwWqhfMfjjbeS58y by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-21T02:52:23Z
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It makes me really sad to see religion be such a destructive force in people's lives. Some people think that's inevitable. I tend to think it's more inevitable that some people will bend anything to their purposes and religion is just another thing this impacts. Anyways.
(DIR) Post #AyPwZ3EJlIfD2Im4v2 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-21T02:52:47Z
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@smellsofbikes I remember a whole sermon on that one.
(DIR) Post #AyPwa5w9BPkbillz7Y by undead@masto.hackers.town
2025-09-21T02:52:48Z
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@futurebird Seriously, if you know anyone who is really preparing for the Rapture, let them know I will take on their car title, home title, bank accounts, and animals. I will do everything in my power to ensure they are as unburdened as possible to fit through that needle at the end of the rainbow.
(DIR) Post #AyPwapByvO9g4uWlY8 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-21T02:53:01Z
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@johnefrancis Nah. Sadly.
(DIR) Post #AyPwezuZ0t7ETtN0rI by smellsofbikes@mastodon.social
2025-09-21T02:53:50Z
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@futurebird Very much same. I came from a non-evangelical baptist background, and they had a LOT to say on this subject.
(DIR) Post #AyPwoyRvIt0MqJjNei by johnefrancis@cosocial.ca
2025-09-21T02:55:38Z
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@futurebird doesn't seem like they are very serious about it. I just want to lay on a giant cube of cash like Huwell for a few minutes before the fire and brimstone.
(DIR) Post #AyPwyhkCGgujvbuzM8 by timo21@mastodon.sdf.org
2025-09-21T02:57:23Z
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@futurebird Same. Though I went to Catholic school in two countries & two USA states with 2 orders of nuns and 2 orders of brothers for 12 years & then a catholic fraternity. Never heard about the rapture until after that. It is a fictitious thing for most Christians. Which is why I tell everyone that the rapture already happened and all y'all evangelicals are now stuck here with us. It clearly happened before mass media & was such a small amount of people that no one noticed. 😉
(DIR) Post #AyPy6BOAY323qokE7c by cwdolunt@dice.camp
2025-09-21T03:09:55Z
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@futurebird Odd, since this year the equinox is on the 22nd.
(DIR) Post #AyPyhJ139aLaDjdGgS by bloodripelives@federatedfandom.net
2025-09-21T03:16:38Z
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@futurebird As someone who has had basically no contact with US Evangelicals and only heard about them as a negative cultural force, I really liked reading this article https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/god-loves-gaza-us-christians-gather-rare-display-solidarity-palestinians about an Evangelical pro-Palestine conference. Of course it should be obvious that any extremely broad religious umbrella is going to have a wide diversity of opinions about all sorts of things! But somehow the range of people in this article proudly and happily identifying themselves as "evangelicals" was surprising to me. (And I'm guessing to the author too, since they keep using the phrase "who identifies as an Evangelical," as if there might be some criterion for the word that they're not meeting other than self-identification...)
(DIR) Post #AyQ060fIcPH2V4no9o by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-21T03:32:19Z
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"Yes we all really thought that the day had but God Almighty has seen fit to spare us. And isn't that a blessing? Because I know there are some of you among us who said you were right with God but in your heart you had doubts. And because He love you so he saw those doubts and spared us all. We have yet another chance. Rejoice Rejoice etc. etc."And round and round it goes. This isn't healthy.
(DIR) Post #AyQ0Mgr5WZ5Xz4Gp5U by adhdeanasl@beige.party
2025-09-21T03:35:18Z
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@futurebird I’m off on the 25th. I think I’d prefer the rapture to happen on a work day so I have a legitimate reason to lay out.
(DIR) Post #AyQ0XKv9PsUz8nFO3E by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-21T03:37:15Z
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It's cruel and wicked to scare people like that, then lie to them and tell them their rightful feelings of betrayal and mistrust are just another reason why they need to follow you, a human person around even more. It's frankly evil.
(DIR) Post #AyQ0ulHhYxI3ZCxtmy by JessTheUnstill@infosec.exchange
2025-09-21T03:41:28Z
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@futurebird I mean, churches can be wildly different. Even within evangelical churches - especially back when we were growing up when the national denominations weren't QUITE as eager to kick out churches who didn't follow their hatred 100%. Also, from what I've heard at least, Black Baptist churches have always had a way different vibe (assuming you went to a majority Black church? Might be a mistaken assumption on my part).
(DIR) Post #AyQ0zzkHE0f9repIJM by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-21T03:42:28Z
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@JessTheUnstill Not mistaken.
(DIR) Post #AyQ1EKzx0KQdphzrfM by YakyuNightOwl@mastodon.world
2025-09-21T03:45:01Z
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@futurebird Amen.This is such an old game it has a Wiki entry.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Disappointment
(DIR) Post #AyQ1ZWoMHLuaYGgA1g by minmi@sfba.social
2025-09-21T03:48:51Z
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@futurebird most of the ppl around me don’t have any kind of religion, and it’s becoming pretty clear to me that some people crave that rigidity and zeal and ability to clobber others with your righteousness. They’ll just find something else to attach it to if not religion. I honestly don’t know if it’s better or worse to have that vessel be institutional religion. But I certainly don’t think it’s the root of the problem.
(DIR) Post #AyQ1aOW8bJQH7OZN7g by ephesossh@mastodon.online
2025-09-21T03:48:51Z
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@futurebird it's a pattern we've been repeating ever since the Second Great Awakening in the 1800s, and it saddens me that the same patterns keep repeating into today's charismatic douchenozzles.We literally wrote it in the history books as The Great Disappointment when those rapture promises came up empty, but we learned nothing.
(DIR) Post #AyQ1pl0BHn7HCFwo7c by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-21T03:51:49Z
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I'm thinking more about the psychology of how this works. Because from the outside it's easy to point and laugh "how do you keep falling for this?"But thinking that something terrible could happen, The End Is Near is terrifying. So, you and your closest friends and family all go through this traumatic experience together. The relief of it not happening brings you closerAs does the pointing an laughing. I think some leading know this.
(DIR) Post #AyQ1v6x96FxOiz54U4 by twipped@twipped.social
2025-09-21T03:52:42Z
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@futurebird I feel like if Jesus did exist today, he’d consider all organized religions to be wicked
(DIR) Post #AyQ2WSmatrdx8vxLZw by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-21T03:59:30Z
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@michaelgemar That's one of the things I have a hard time even relating to. That cocksure swagger and bragging about how certain some of these people are they they will go right to heaven. Seems like a bit of hubris to me.But also it also feeling like a lot of too much protesting. It's a terrifying concept. What if you missed something? What if you got something wrong? And a lot of the stories play on these fear and make them very real.
(DIR) Post #AyQ3QefHuRvmDBKhtI by paul@oldfriends.live
2025-09-21T04:09:37Z
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@futurebird From my personal vantage point and life experience, I wasraised evangelical from the 1970s on (until I "backslid and turned away from the narrow road and ran down the wide road to hell." It was rapture, rapture, rapture from my first memory.I remember watching a movie when I was around 10, I'm in my 50s not about being "left behind" rapture movies.My late father-in-law (married since 1990) was a Baptist preacher and evangelist for around 65 years. I don't think it was until the mid-2000s until their doctrine started to bend and changed until I would have considered them (being Baptists) as part of the evangelical crowd as it is known as today... That is my perspective. These were the actual movies you'd watch in Bible School as young pre-teens and teens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkl4dhn9UP4
(DIR) Post #AyQ4A4CxmsUYSnjqhU by Oggie@woof.group
2025-09-21T04:17:50Z
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@futurebird @michaelgemar Yeah I think they are terrified that maybe they aren't going to go to heaven, and so they either will be super nice, or super awful, to other people in the leading up to it, because that extra little bit!You know, that extra energy trying to make sure you definitely Picked Correctly when you're not completely sure, like when you pick one of two versions of something at a sale.
(DIR) Post #AyQ4CnO8mMqjAPGf5M by mkb@mastodon.social
2025-09-21T04:18:22Z
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@futurebird My gaming buddy of many years was raised fundie and he told me essentially the same thing. I said it must be terrifying to constantly see the Devil around every corner. He said, no, it was actually very satisfying to feel special and one-up on everyone else, adding that the sense of separation increases the church’s hold on the flock.
(DIR) Post #AyQ5O39ebI2RClQE5o by pewnack@aus.social
2025-09-21T04:31:33Z
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@futurebird It sounds like, in the scene in the hostage drama movie, where the captor after threatening to kill them if a ransom isn't paid, has a gun to the blindfolded hostage's head and pulls the trigger but nothing happens. The captor then laughs maniacally while the hostage pisses their pants.
(DIR) Post #AyQ7DxIhi7OW3ryAeO by stevenaleach@sigmoid.social
2025-09-21T04:52:09Z
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@futurebird I'm endlessly fascinated, irritated, and disturbed by the apparent *attraction* of "end times" beliefs.I *get* why folks would want to do the mental gymnastics to believe in an impossible afterlife - there's a big carrot.But why do people so badly *want* to believe in, to *hope* for, to even *pray* for some kind of horrible end-times war between supernatural beings that we all get trampled in?Why is that something evangelicals and others *want*???
(DIR) Post #AyQ90nYapHKHzAFtUO by patrickhadfield@mastodon.scot
2025-09-21T05:12:10Z
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@futurebird the problem I have is that people with such views are now close to those with the power to bring about the end of the world. Truly scary.
(DIR) Post #AyQAZb0lYuYFAKad3A by jakob@pxi.social
2025-09-21T05:29:41Z
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@futurebird when prophesy falls (the book) and the subsequent scholarly critiques may be an interesting read?
(DIR) Post #AyQDsIMBRXSAfrDQsy by mathaetaes@infosec.exchange
2025-09-21T06:06:42Z
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@futurebird the thing that always gets me with this kind of thing is Matthew 24:36: “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only.”Like, it straight up says you can’t know it’s coming. The fact that a bunch of people claim to know it’s on a specific day could arguably be a guarantee that it won’t happen on that day.But there’s a lot of stuff in that book. You can’t expect anyone to read and remember *all* of it.
(DIR) Post #AyQPLOvhBSB4x8uKBc by lufthans@mastodon.social
2025-09-21T08:15:13Z
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@futurebird perhaps that's when Stephen Miller will start the war he wantsThe rapturists really hoped W would start it when he was in office
(DIR) Post #AyQUv1PMc43ICLaaNk by lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net
2025-09-21T09:17:37Z
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@futurebird Like failing to welcome a stranger, to give food to the hungry, and to give drink to the thirsty ?Not even counting voting for a super-heathen like Trump...@michaelgemar
(DIR) Post #AyQeoDSOPs6b57OpKC by ChemicalEyeGuy@mstdn.science
2025-09-21T11:08:26Z
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@futurebird #American evangelicals are more like #Talibangelicals.
(DIR) Post #AyQjimGaa7bz4i6X2m by catselbow@fosstodon.org
2025-09-21T12:03:32Z
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@futurebird So much this.
(DIR) Post #AyQkIXNfP7ZlKfSzNA by twipped@twipped.social
2025-09-21T03:55:28Z
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@futurebird and he would DEFINITELY have some ugly things to say about Paul
(DIR) Post #AyQkIYf4dt5tIwcP8y by jhavok@mstdn.party
2025-09-21T12:09:09Z
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@twipped @futurebird I privately call Christianity Paulianity. The Letters are full of appalling shit.
(DIR) Post #AyQkIZbv76AKFS9Oro by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-21T12:09:57Z
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@jhavok @twipped Going for the deep cut arguments I see.
(DIR) Post #AyQqiSWChiTtVSCfNA by fbobraga@mastodon.social
2025-09-21T13:21:56Z
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@futurebird the coup here on Brazil was basically made managing evangelical masses (was common to see Bibles in the actions...)
(DIR) Post #AyQzs4DCpRksbXyPdQ by JoeBeam@mastodon.social
2025-09-21T15:04:30Z
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@futurebird The story’s of the rapture or end times in the Bible are warnings, not predictions. You screw up enough, there will be consequences. Nobody has a monopoly on god.
(DIR) Post #AyR0kAlYg27cZLqCpc by JoshuaACNewman@xeno.glyphpress.com
2025-09-21T15:14:17Z
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@futurebirdTo quote Tribe Called Quest: “They were looking for God but they found religion.”
(DIR) Post #AyR0tkKpnlgpUTuFe4 by JoshuaACNewman@xeno.glyphpress.com
2025-09-21T15:16:00Z
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@futurebird Probably non-coincidentally, those are the dates of the days of Rosh HaShannah.Unsurprisingly, they didn’t get the message that the world is supposed to end on Yom Kippur, ten days later.
(DIR) Post #AyR0xcSx06mmF9Y7cG by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-21T15:16:44Z
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@JoshuaACNewman They get really excited about the people blowing the horns. It's not very deep at all. :/
(DIR) Post #AyR1VMiY3kIBFKw7N2 by JoshuaACNewman@xeno.glyphpress.com
2025-09-21T15:22:49Z
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@futurebirdYeah, you blow the horn at the end of Yom Kippur, too, but Rosh HaShannah is more correctly Yom HaShofar “Shofar Day”.Of course, that’s like saying that all the trees will end on Arbor Day.
(DIR) Post #AyRa6QywZ279d1S77Y by llewelly@sauropods.win
2025-09-21T21:50:28Z
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@futurebird I thought Public Enemy was the rap true.