Post AyOct8z9sdoMR91lRI by monkee@chaos.social
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(DIR) Post #AyOcYv4RuAwFUPrHaS by kaia@brotka.st
2025-09-20T11:33:54.048897Z
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I have a smol problem :jelsweat: my /boot drive is full, so I can’t update with pacman. I tried removing the Microsoft EFI stuff I don’t need anymore, I enabled xz compression with level -9. it still does not suffice. there’s only the current kernel and fallback.I know 300MB is not enough, that’s my mistake. buuut I can’t make it bigger, since my encrypted LVM is right next to it. the boot itself is not LVM/dev/nvme0n1p1 300M 300M 0 100% /boot
(DIR) Post #AyOceG2nM1I1z8d8Sm by ube@spergia.net
2025-09-20T11:34:19.553242Z
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@kaia lol
(DIR) Post #AyOcgbaUE9OdNcVabo by takao@shitposter.world
2025-09-20T11:35:23.786927Z
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@kaia ...what did you put on your /boot?
(DIR) Post #AyOcsG1OEdury8eGmW by kaia@brotka.st
2025-09-20T11:37:24.170619Z
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@takao there's just the kernel, a fallback and the EFI boot stuff. I'm currently looking whether I can switch off the fallback?
(DIR) Post #AyOct8z9sdoMR91lRI by monkee@chaos.social
2025-09-20T11:36:54Z
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@kaia Do you have a second drive to circumvent the problem?Make it boot from the other drive and "copy" that to original /boot when it works.Maybe dumb idea :breadpeek:
(DIR) Post #AyOcuVSpn5ScRVYeMC by kaia@brotka.st
2025-09-20T11:37:48.580257Z
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@RedTechEngineer rest of the NVME is encrypted :sad:
(DIR) Post #AyOd7C4FDaPe396cnA by kaia@brotka.st
2025-09-20T11:40:04.005022Z
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@toast yeah. can I switch off the fallback kernel somehow? I hope I never need it.
(DIR) Post #AyOd7tpuUF5fnQjnYe by waifu@mai.waifuism.life
2025-09-20T11:39:59.433Z
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@kaia@brotka.st hope you find a solution 🙏
(DIR) Post #AyOdCW18TM0RN4BnlI by maylay@plaza.vaporpolis.net
2025-09-20T11:40:29.037586Z
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@kaia use a separate drive, unless it’s a laptop, maybe in that case you could use an sd card
(DIR) Post #AyOdGrMN3zpMipC3hw by kaia@brotka.st
2025-09-20T11:41:51.086185Z
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um I could put the boot on a USB stick? is it only read once during boot and then unpacked into RAM? then this sounds viable?
(DIR) Post #AyOdxcFd74c4JbQbke by kaia@brotka.st
2025-09-20T11:49:31.642596Z
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@toast found the fallback settings in /etc/mkinitcpio.d/ and switched it off :evil: now it worked. thank you!
(DIR) Post #AyOe3ayQm8IU5hEbx2 by sampo@pleroma.soykaf.com
2025-09-20T11:50:42.475430Z
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@kaia if you build the essential modules into the kernel you can just plop the file in there and point an efi boot entry at it, no need for anything else. it's pretty easy to do with an initramfs too but you'll like have unnecessary stuff in there
(DIR) Post #AyOeC62DAvSIk23ZVg by Vo@noauthority.social
2025-09-20T11:51:57Z
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@kaia backup disk and confirm backupboot to USBdecryptshrink physical lvmshrink luksclose luksresize data partitionmake new partition at end of driveclone EFI over thereexpand EFI at endpoint grub to new /bootoptionally delete old EFI and expand data to start of drive (much the same above procedure)https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Resizing_LVM-on-LUKShttps://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=149437
(DIR) Post #AyOeJRPK6tIP3TMxCi by kaia@brotka.st
2025-09-20T11:53:28.496750Z
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@Vo thanks, that definitely would be an option. but I'm too scared of breaking something. I settled with removing the fallback kernel, which now works.
(DIR) Post #AyOeTMppxsvVlnVJPk by Vo@noauthority.social
2025-09-20T11:55:13Z
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@kaia yeah not for the faint of heart. I would GParted draft it first for sure
(DIR) Post #AyOiQ6un6B0xLIWWoa by fabos@der.cyberterror.ist
2025-09-20T12:38:37.835Z
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@kaia@brotka.st did you deleted all unnecessary image files? I'd check kernel version with uname -a and delete all corresponding files with a version below .. this frees space without breaking
(DIR) Post #AyOiRBEaWc4B1oIGps by kaia@brotka.st
2025-09-20T12:39:44.300384Z
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@fabos now that I removed the fallback kernel, there's enough space :jelhappy:
(DIR) Post #AyOixFMoh9sp71QufI by i@declin.eu
2025-09-20T12:45:36.142050Z
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@kaia yes you can, that's how we BIOS boot some of the older server to nvme, grub-install the usb drive, and fstab mount it as /bootnot sure on the EUFI bits though, that shits annoying
(DIR) Post #AyOjKDVvkbI01eeIZU by tk@nerdculture.de
2025-09-20T12:47:52Z
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@kaia in theory possible, but my experience said that works with usb-drives for around a week tops, after that they implode.But you could use that usb-drive to start gparted (e.g. from systemrescuecd) and resize /boot to something like 1GB. After your backups of course :)
(DIR) Post #AyOkqg8ixLqy1lpy3U by phnt@fluffytail.org
2025-09-20T13:06:49.087264Z
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@kaia Besides your current solution of disabling fallback initramfs, you can also put the EFI partition on a different mountpoint than /boot (/esp or /boot/efi for example) and let only your bootloader live there. Kernels and initramfs would then live on your root partition. The only problem with this is that you need GRUB since nothing else can decrypt LUKS to boot the kernel and LUKSv2 isn't fully supported either, so you are stuck with V1.
(DIR) Post #AyOnCxG4BtMrOm1O5o by vokainen099@cawfee.club
2025-09-20T13:33:15.694787Z
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@phnt @kaia Pretty much the most pressing reason to use grub is exactly it's ability to boot anything from anywhere
(DIR) Post #AyOuwfdqigZFlJtLO4 by kaia@brotka.st
2025-09-20T14:59:52.619374Z
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@phnt my remaining 2 NVMEs are also LUKS as a whole, so I can't put a boot there :akko_mmh:
(DIR) Post #AyOvOJhJttlxoQhJlA by i@declin.eu
2025-09-20T15:04:57.387487Z
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@phnt @kaia it's funny how gobbledygook all of that is to the average person and how windows is no better once it's out of storage https://www.osnews.com/story/143376/dark-patterns-killed-my-wifes-windows-11-installation/
(DIR) Post #AyOvci4Y4aMdSmQSo4 by phnt@fluffytail.org
2025-09-20T15:07:26.892531Z
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@kaia That's the thing, you can. GRUB can open LUKS partitions without issue as long as they are in the V1 format. But you also need to create a keyfile that gets included in the initramfs for the kernel to decrypt the partitions, otherwise it will ask twice for password. Once grub and once Linux. https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/GRUB#Encrypted_/bootGranted, the setup is a bit hacky and in my case two years ago I had to build special grub images with different modules. This might not be needed anymore, but I haven't tried it yet.
(DIR) Post #AyOvlNQ4EHeY11cjOy by phnt@fluffytail.org
2025-09-20T15:09:08.307092Z
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@i @kaia My favorite is Windows 10 failing to update the recovery image because the partition for it is too small for systems upgrading from 7/8 and early 10.
(DIR) Post #AyOvll5KF3K1Pe6VP6 by kaia@brotka.st
2025-09-20T15:09:06.774241Z
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@phnt oooh now I get it, interesting! I'm using systemD boot btw :hehe:
(DIR) Post #AyOvptL7Uc4CAlSjZ2 by phnt@fluffytail.org
2025-09-20T15:09:57.738418Z
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@kaia Then it's not possible :02sad:
(DIR) Post #AyOvzGtxGA9Rr3EG1Y by mint@ryona.agency
2025-09-20T15:11:37.960566Z
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@phnt @kaia Switching compression to zstd in mkinitcpio.conf cut the initramfs size for me in half.
(DIR) Post #AyP5QkPEZOP0le2HqK by nico@toot.exchange
2025-09-20T16:57:13Z
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@kaia one might say you’re challenging your computer, the way you just out and said “if the boot fits”