Post AyHBhtfz0eLgYVX69I by dhfir@suya.place
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(DIR) Post #AyH5Us9Km5VCKbfSdM by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2025-09-16T20:20:24.014552Z
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@druid Makes sense because there's an underlying logic?Like most of the world has pyramids, it's a really good way to stack stones.
(DIR) Post #AyH7JtVba3knGmygfA by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2025-09-16T20:40:48.490404Z
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@druid Worm one is interesting because I wouldn't really see where the heck that comes from.(Although there's the genesis thing with not eating apples)Which reminds me that I wonder a bit where this idea of humans as cattle for aliens/"god(s)" comes from, like sure we do farming but humans aren't cared for…
(DIR) Post #AyH8wmZnOAiX182r6e by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2025-09-16T20:59:03.026272Z
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@druid Yeah, the god comes from elsewhere thing is one that kind of makes sense to me.In fact reminds me of "God's Puzzle" (Japanese novel, got manga and live action adaptation. Yeah, Japanese stuff, I get quite a lot of abrahamic stuff from Japan somehow…)
(DIR) Post #AyHA0H9IHFUeevsX6e by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
2025-09-16T21:11:01.670787Z
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@lanodan @druid > humans as cattle for aliens/"god(s)"Mostly it comes from farcical pseudo-history by Erich von Däniken and Zecharia Sitchin. The former being a convicted conman. Both popularised in large part thanks to the <drama quotes>History Channel</>.There's a slight grain of truth to in from the 18th-century BCE Akkadian epic Atrahasis, where human beings are created by a host of the Gods (foreshadowing Elohim in the BuyBull, Genesis) as an agricultural workforce to replace the earthly Igigi Gods who were tired of their terrestrial labours of creation.As to the worm imagery, that's probably from heterodox Jewish and Christian mythology about Yahweh being an evil creator (aka: Yaldabaoth, Seth, etc) who usurped the position of the true unnameable ineffable God (foreshadowing the later apocryphal Christian notion of Lucifer). Dr. M. David Litwa has a good book on the subject (link below).https://libgen.la/ads.php?md5=0bc8a3f542322d177d53e1756487869d
(DIR) Post #AyHAVYQi4qXpERwJxA by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
2025-09-16T21:16:40.447908Z
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@sathariel @sarvo @druid @lanodan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapel_perilous#As_used_in_psychology
(DIR) Post #AyHBS77RGHbdc9qhWa by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2025-09-16T21:27:06.685299Z
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@sathariel @sarvo @druid @toiletpaper Interestingly I don't think this one happened to me yet
(DIR) Post #AyHBhtfz0eLgYVX69I by dhfir@suya.place
2025-09-16T21:29:49.540818Z
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@toiletpaper @sarvo @druid @sathariel @lanodan oh.so that's what that's called.
(DIR) Post #AyHBzs6lZtgyuAdDYe by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
2025-09-16T21:33:21.810530Z
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@dhfir @sarvo @druid @sathariel @lanodan Yep. It's the difference between having a bad trip and believing that you're possessed/attacked by demonic forces, vs realising you have some deep seated trauma and need to work on yourself. Far too many of the former types end up in positions of political and religious influence, when they really ought to be heavily medicated in a padded cell somewhere away from civil society.
(DIR) Post #AyHabEvkOGsbQuFGqW by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
2025-09-17T02:09:01.599507Z
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@druid @lanodan > Have you ever read A Transparent Illusion?Not yet. *adds it to the reading list*Sounds like Merkabah mysticism. If you haven't yet, you should check out Dr. Justin Sledge's ongoing series on YT: Esotericahttps://youtu.be/VT3V1xEA2O4
(DIR) Post #AyHch3a5hR8Dsb184W by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
2025-09-17T02:32:28.968930Z
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@druid @sarvo @sathariel @lanodan @dhfir I had a couple experiences on psilocybe mushrooms several years ago while living on a beach that definitely fell into this category. In the first instance I found myself in a situation where I was overlooking a black mass complete with a bunch of people in black robes chanting over an altar and your typical Hammer Horror type inverted pentacle decorations, etc. As they chanted a swarm of demons started pouring out of the altar like a cloud of black smoke and warming around the room like angry locusts. My first thought was "WTAF is this?! I'm a Pagan, and this kind of derpy Christian fear pron is not my thing in the slightest." It didn't really scare me, so I just sat and watched while they demons bumped up against my luminous egg like a bunch of fish slamming into their fish bowl. After a while the scene moved on and I didn't think anything else of it. But the next year I had the same experience. Except this time one of the `demons` came around and started whispering threats into my ear about past misdeeds. That was a bit more unnerving.But my take on it was that it was like a Pagan house blessing, where we'd take symbols of each of the 4 elements around the house from basement to attic and expose them to every dark nook and cranny to purify all the hidden spaces and ultimately bless the home. To me it was a revelation and purification, both about elements of my shadow that I hadn't faced, and things I needed to accept about myself in order to be a more whole and integrated human being. It struck me that if anyone with a more superstitious Christian background had this experience, they'd probably go off the deep end thinking they were cursed and/or possessed. I've seen so many people like that, it's not even fucking funny. Anyway, I found it uplifting and helpful, but I can totally relate to how others would go absolutely psychotic after an experience like that. Like I said, people I've known like that are literally a dime a dozen.Thing is, whether Christian or not, I have grown up immersed in a Christian society and culture, especially given all the derpy "Satanic" fire and brimstone fear porn that tends to go with it. So having that kind of cultural garbage infect my subconscious is inevitable, whether I like it or not. End of the day though, it wasn't a "demon" speaking to me, but an element of my own psyche bringing to light things I needed to confront and repair in order to be a more psychologically healthy and balanced person. Although not the only "Chapel perilous" style experience I've had, it certainly stands out as the kind of thing that metaphor relates to, and the drastically unsettling kind of reaction a person unprepared for it would likely have.