Post AyAT3arZE2Ajo5Wpai by ligasser@social.epfl.ch
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(DIR) Post #AyADqAChX8Yo32YHAW by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-13T12:50:59Z
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One of my coworkers was excited to tell me about the vibe coding workshop he did over the summer. He's not a programmer much at all, and I think he just... enjoyed programming. I tried to hide the deep horror from my face but I don't know if it worked. I think he did learn some things but I am not convinced it had anything to do with having an LLM giving him code to fix and modify instead of simply copying and pasting bits of code from message boards as we did in olden times.
(DIR) Post #AyADxZ3hWR5hA2s4Mi by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-13T12:52:18Z
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I live in dread for the day when my husband will come home and tell me how he's been vibe coding at work with all of the bad influences in his office. I need to have a talk with him. You know what they say:"If you don't talk to your husband about vibe coding he will learn about it at the office!"
(DIR) Post #AyAEIhIY5DLYnRtQNk by Gustodon@mas.to
2025-09-13T12:56:06Z
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@futurebird "It still says syntax error."
(DIR) Post #AyAEYINGW8h686XLUG by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-13T12:58:57Z
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@Gustodon me: "yeah, that happens."And then we can start really "coding"
(DIR) Post #AyAFWhAJTQXyOQHNjc by Ehay2k@mastodon.social
2025-09-13T13:09:49Z
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@futurebird Lol, I remember copying and pasting Excel (and Lotus 123 !!!) formulas off of CompuServe when I was learning how to wrangle spreadsheets. #damnimold
(DIR) Post #AyAHbT8FHCqWE2iSy8 by suetanvil@freeradical.zone
2025-09-13T13:33:04Z
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@futurebird As a developer and hobby programmer, I cannot comprehend how someone who enjoys programming would like vibe coding.AI automates away the fun, creative parts of the work, badly. And the parts that you still have to do--the unpleasant stuff--is even less pleasant now because of that.
(DIR) Post #AyAJcfRnAqWgcPYg4W by DanielMReck@mas.to
2025-09-13T13:55:44Z
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@futurebird If I had children, I feel there'd be a similar obligation to have "The Talk" with them, too.And of course, it's not just one talk. It's consistently modeling good behavior and engaging in frequent open conversation about shared values and responsibilities over the course of life.(Given the lifelong importance, I'm shocked at the number of parents who never have The Talk even just once with their children. The power of stigma: Terrorizing parents to silence with their own kids.)
(DIR) Post #AyASD2LKKCXJgdO50y by octothorpe@mastodon.online
2025-09-13T15:31:51Z
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@futurebird @troublewithwords ‘I learned it by watching you!!’
(DIR) Post #AyAT3arZE2Ajo5Wpai by ligasser@social.epfl.ch
2025-09-13T15:41:20Z
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@futurebird we need to ask Zach to add another one of "the talk":https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-talk-3
(DIR) Post #AyAWaRAUahB99qjWng by independentpen@mas.to
2025-09-13T16:20:59Z
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@futurebird I know a programmer (highly experienced, runs a consultancy, very capable) who surprised me by being pro LLM. He said it's getting sophisticated enough that it's becoming a labor saving tool for programming. I am not a dev, although I understand its pros and cons very well in writing and graphic design, so don't have the knowledge to have an informed opinion. What are your thoughts?
(DIR) Post #AyAWt1QcW0ZspT8fsO by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-13T16:24:23Z
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@independentpen I'm an educator so it's not really helping me much. I work with examples that I understand inside and out. Easier to write them myself or take them from a book.
(DIR) Post #AyAdKbdeatHSg1ltgW by independentpen@mas.to
2025-09-13T17:36:34Z
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@futurebird Do you teach CS?
(DIR) Post #AyAdLooZ5jZXpaSAbY by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-13T17:36:50Z
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@independentpen Yes in HS.
(DIR) Post #AyAdohn4HnYWRaWlQO by independentpen@mas.to
2025-09-13T17:42:01Z
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@futurebird That makes sense. I feel similar, personally: as a writer, I know there are use cases where LLMs can assist in the process, which some writers appreciate, but I don't ever want that kind of assistance. I'm also disturbed by all the problems surrounding this technology as a whole, no matter how ethical or labor-saving the application may be