Post AxxUJcmxPKt7JO6LEO by TarkabarkaHolgy@ohai.social
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(DIR) Post #AxxUJNFnAMRj8BT8xE by TarkabarkaHolgy@ohai.social
2025-09-07T04:58:28Z
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I hate it when I talk about AI "art" and how awful it is, and people respond with "Oh, but it will get so much better at it! It will be able to create amazing stuff, not just creepy images!"I. Don't. Care.I want stuff made by thinking, feeling, flawed humans. That's the whole point. I don't care how good AI is at "art". I don't care that "writing a good prompt is difficult". I really don't. The problem was never the quality to begin with.#AI #art
(DIR) Post #AxxUJOxQpawqPotVc8 by uoou@mas.to
2025-09-07T06:20:01Z
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@TarkabarkaHolgy I agree but these same arguments were deployed in the renaissance against painters who didn't grind their own pigments. And in the 19th C. against photography which I think is particularly apt - the machine's doing all the work, you're just placing it down.I very much agree with your conclusion, but I think we need to nail down what it is that's wrong with AI 'art'. Because the argument that it's just another tool and we're pigment-grinding reactionaries is pretty strong.
(DIR) Post #AxxUJPzaz2Gzcoukcq by andijah@brotkru.me
2025-09-07T07:32:50Z
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@uoou I read a blog post by a German artist the other day and they said that if you can make art with or without AI, it is indeed just a tool. However, if you fully rely on AI to make "art", then the result is neither art nor is AI just a tool for you.And thus you're not an artist.@TarkabarkaHolgy
(DIR) Post #AxxUJQoHwYp4A2dEdk by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2025-09-07T09:24:09Z
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@andijah @uoou @TarkabarkaHolgy most photographers can't paint.
(DIR) Post #AxxUJUvWdazKve34TY by TarkabarkaHolgy@ohai.social
2025-09-07T05:27:03Z
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Also, unpopular opinion:Trad publishing's preference for easily marketable tropes makes the use of AI easier.Multiple people I know have been told by publishers that they need to "describe the manuscript in three common tropes" or "as a combination of two popular books/movies" in order to be marketable. The more formulaic something is, the easier sell. They were told to tweak stories to fit into a trope.This, #AI can do easily. But it's not even an AI problem. It's a marketing problem.
(DIR) Post #AxxUJcmxPKt7JO6LEO by TarkabarkaHolgy@ohai.social
2025-09-07T05:36:18Z
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And finally, a #StorytellingPSA:There is no such thing as "I generated a new folktale with AI!"(Yes, someone has actually tried to convince me AI will make me new folktales to tell.)That might be a tale, but it's not "folk." Folktales are part of a community's oral tradition. They work because people have told and told and retold them. You can't plonk a chunck of text down and call it a folktale. Connection is the whole point./end rant #AI #storytelling
(DIR) Post #AxxUJkWwckphK2ffNo by TarkabarkaHolgy@ohai.social
2025-09-07T06:16:20Z
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Caveat of sudden realization:Michael Ende's "Momo" is the perfect book for the AI era. Grey villains telling people they should save time and effort, and then they turn around and steal everything worth having.#AI #bookstodon #books #art
(DIR) Post #AyELjHTyOrEgkLKmWG by urlyman@mastodon.social
2025-09-07T10:08:28Z
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@TarkabarkaHolgy happy to have found you and your work :)You may enjoy Anthony Moser’s piece. Here’s an excerpt.“Miyazaki tells stories that blend the ordinary and the fantastic in ways people find deeply meaningful. Altman tells lies for money.And I’m glad they’re lies. Because the makers of AI aren’t damned by their failures, they’re damned by their goals. They want to build a genie to grant them wishes, and their wish is that nobody ever has to make art again”http://anthonymoser.github.io/writing/ai/haterdom/2025/08/26/i-am-an-ai-hater.html