Post AxroN6hZTpiB5alD7o by bkuhn@fedi.copyleft.org
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 (DIR) Post #AxroN5U40ZJRJPQuQq by jensimmons@front-end.social
       2025-09-03T21:35:56Z
       
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       Web developers, I have a question for you. Imagine an idea for a new web technology is proposed. But at least of the browser makers formally objects because of privacy concerns or other reasons. They say "No, we object to this proposal. We will never ship this. Let’s redesign it without these problems." But the other browser disagrees & ships anyway.Should that technology be considered A Web Standard — when 1 or 2 browsers implement & ship, while 1 or 2 browsers Formally Object and say no?
       
 (DIR) Post #AxroN6hZTpiB5alD7o by bkuhn@fedi.copyleft.org
       2025-09-03T22:27:56Z
       
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       #ApplePropogandaDoes #Safari's marketing people really have what's best for developers in their minds when they take informal polls? 🤔
       
 (DIR) Post #AxroN7tf2MyanNQNbk by kaiserkiwi@corteximplant.com
       2025-09-04T05:22:18Z
       
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       @bkuhn @jensimmons To ask a question you don't have to have the "best" for someone in your mind. It's a question. It's meant to get information and a broader understanding of people's thoughts.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxroN8sdNfkVqTx4e8 by bkuhn@fedi.copyleft.org
       2025-09-04T15:38:22Z
       
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       “Hey, I'm just asking questions!” can justify a lot of propaganda disguised as inquiry.  IMO, that's happening here.#Apple is well known for pushing forward — via carefully concerted public messaging — that they champion the privacy rights of their users.A 100% #FOSS system, with fully @reproducible_builds & device-owner control of crypto-key-lock of the bootchain is the real path to privacy, *not* Tim Cook's proxies using ActivityPub polls to vague-post at standards bodies & competitors.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxxsjTRz9CUImL9OwC by jensimmons@front-end.social
       2025-09-03T21:40:05Z
       
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       Next, should that technology — that has a proposal at a standards venue, and is starting to ship in browsers… but also has a formal objection to that technology on the record from 1 or 2 browsers that have made it clear they do not want to ship the technology as described…Should that feature be listed in Baseline as a feature that browsers are supposed to ship? When there’s a graph of "missing features", should the lack of shipping such a feature be logged as missing?
       
 (DIR) Post #AxxsjUhyTEs6gDdgUy by johnpgreen@mastodon.social
       2025-09-04T00:56:57Z
       
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       @jensimmons Depends - which side is Mozilla on?
       
 (DIR) Post #AxxsjVqAGH18BuTju4 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-09-07T13:57:50Z
       
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       @johnpgreen > which side is Mozilla on?The answer to this question hasn't been relevant since they shipped commissioned Adobe to insert a proprietary DRM module into FireFox.@jensimmons
       
 (DIR) Post #Axxt4ZCGyd6sgNrK2i by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-09-07T14:01:44Z
       
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       @jensimmons > Should that technology be considered A Web StandardUnless it's been standardised by W3C or another widely recognised standards body, it's not a standard, web or otherwise.> Should that feature be listed in Baseline as a feature that browsers are supposed to ship?See above.@Julianoe> Ditching consensus is giving the keys of the "open" web to [insert cartel members here] to decide everythingThis. Which is why we have technical standards, produced by vendor-neutral bodies.