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 (DIR) Post #AxnY0BFM2ZtmcqlhaK by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-09-02T14:18:32Z
       
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       "The decision doesn't limit the availability of COVID vaccines for Americans who want them." -White HouseOK. But now I need to make a doctor's appointment AND get a prescription. And frankly I don't feel qualified to decide if I need a shot or not. Normally I get a flu shot each fall before school and this year I'm very confused. I'm going to email my doctor and see what she says. What are ya'll doing in other temperate countries with "flu seasons" ?
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnYFCVrcBHwteeX4a by RogerBW@discordian.social
       2025-09-02T14:21:13Z
       
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       @futurebird UK: two COVID a year, one flu a year. I have to pay for all of them. Even the medics are surprised I bother with COVID. Nobody else masks.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnYFwdw6V4ty0md2e by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-09-02T14:21:19Z
       
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       Despite teaching in NYC I have not had the flu since I started taking the shots like 8 years ago. Does that prove anything? I don't think so? But I hate the mixed messages this is sending. I'm not "high risk" or elderly. If I did get the flu it would just be annoying. COVID would be worse, but probably not "the end" but why risk it? And why be a petri dish and make my elderly parents sick?It's just irritating to have this seem like a new research project that I didn't ask for.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnYHDyDATEjzlsR72 by HydrePrever@mathstodon.xyz
       2025-09-02T14:21:34Z
       
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       @futurebird in France you get a free shot at the pharmacy, you not even need a prescription anymore. Maybe it's 'cause I'm old though
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnYIIWthYCMQSc4LA by RolloTreadway@beige.party
       2025-09-02T14:21:45Z
       
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       @futurebird I'm lucky - because I work in emergency care I can get both covid and flu shots for free, no qualifications about health or age or anything.That isn't a particularly helpful response, sorry.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnYK8ajcd0MBNHk9I by lffontenelle@mastodon.social
       2025-09-02T14:22:06Z
       
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       @futurebird reminds me of the beginning of the HHGG
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnYM71uOpEPuywARU by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-09-02T14:22:29Z
       
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       @RolloTreadway It is helpful because it means the hospitals are still thinking this is important.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnYQSbg7Qg9zok22i by boby_biq@toot.community
       2025-09-02T14:23:13Z
       
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       @futurebird “Other temperate countries”? (I don’t know what this means) Qatar has big flu vaccine campaigns, it’s encouraged, easily available-only has some fuzz when you want the shot -at the “wrong timing” - they convince you to take the shot closer to the season or something.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnYWHTKQjV3CSbxeC by KentuckyConjurer@social.horrorhub.club
       2025-09-02T14:24:16Z
       
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       @futurebird I'm waiting to make sure there are enough available for those who need them first. Our local CVS & Walgreens are supposedly not carrying the covid vaccine anymore. I have a doc appt in October and discussion with him then.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnYbuWaf2TjldozgW by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-09-02T14:25:21Z
       
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       The school nurse likes to tell us to please get flu shots because they hate it when we miss work or come in sick. Most other teachers I know think it works. We used to have at least a few teachers out with one week flu before people started getting shots. I can't remember the last time that happened. Sometimes there are still students who miss a week.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnYhSmQj9Y1SNsV8K by StephanieMoore@mastodon.online
       2025-09-02T14:26:18Z
       
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       @futurebird the retort I keep hearing from folks is “yeah but now it won’t be covered by insurance.” I haven’t heard anything definitive yet, but I keep thinking that actuaries may be our last line of reason? Wouldn’t it be in the insurance companies’ interests to not have so many sick people and this still cover the shots?
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnYixG2thu0GsRS4G by sollat@masto.ai
       2025-09-02T14:26:35Z
       
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       @futurebird I would think getting your shot might help limit spread in your school, protecting coworkers and students with higher risk. I got mine out of general caution and to potentially protect my parents.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnYwLL2g54QijAA5Y by Zahlenzauberin@dresden.network
       2025-09-02T14:28:54Z
       
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       @futurebird My insurance pays for the flu vaccine so I'm definitely getting it. COVID is a bit more hassle, but I'll try to get it. I need to find a doctor or apothecary that gives them, that's the hard part in COVID sceptical eastern Germany. The shot is not that expensive so I'll pay for it out of my own pocket, because I'm too young for the insurance to pay.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnYwzQlcDPv449IZ6 by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-09-02T14:29:03Z
       
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       @boby_biq In countries where there is a cold winter people tend to get sick more when the air is cold and dry. eg. temperate countries. this is why there is a "flu season"
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnZ0XY9Da2bkfIIc4 by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-09-02T14:29:47Z
       
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       @Zahlenzauberin apothecary? that sounds like an adventure game... is that like a pharmacist?
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnZ4ThpS2lWzLhTZw by boby_biq@toot.community
       2025-09-02T14:30:28Z
       
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       @futurebird Oh! I see. I think here there’s flue season bc of the ton of AC. They have a tendency of over cooling buildings
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnZA9v7vUYTMWd4Ay by jericevans@mastodon.online
       2025-09-02T14:31:30Z
       
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       @futurebird same.  I’ll go to the doctor and get mine, it’s a pain but worthwhile.  Lots of folks won’t or won’t be able to though (which of course is the point), which means covid will be worse this season (making it even more important if you can manage).  So frustrating. 🤦‍♂️
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnZQ7ZkPbh6iuEyIa by michael_w_busch@mastodon.online
       2025-09-02T14:34:23Z
       
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       @futurebird Everyone should get their flu and COVID shots.And I had understood from @luckytran that New York state was working to prevent RFK Jr. restricting COVID vaccines over there?(I have been quoting examples of other states ensuring broad access and ordering their own supplies for telling the Minnesota state government to do likewise.  But all of this really should not be needed.)
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnZiG2ffkgwC6PwQq by catmisgivings@stranger.social
       2025-09-02T14:37:39Z
       
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       @futurebird I took flu lightly until one time in my 20s when I came down with a bad case. It was just like they said -- "felt like I was run over by a Mack truck". I was sick in bed for two weeks straight and only got up to go to the bathroom, take Nyquil, or hydrate. I vowed never againAround 2019 or so a flu like that made the rounds at my work. I'd had my shot though so while my coworkers were down for 2 weeks I was back within a few days
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnZmNgtB1NX4gCA1Q by aeisenberg@cosocial.ca
       2025-09-02T14:38:23Z
       
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       @futurebird in British Columbia, COVID and flu shots are free (as long as you’re on the provincial health plan (ie- not a visitor)). You just make an appointment through the government website and go to your local pharmacy.In the past, it was controlled who got their shots first (ie- elders and immunocompromised were allowed their shots first). That might have changed though.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnalSvMKk7eyD5gqO by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-09-02T14:49:28Z
       
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       @Retreival9096 I like to think I'm a bit of a polymath but I'm balking at becoming an amateur expert of the effectiveness of vaccines. I'm just very annoyed by the whole "it up to you" vibes. What's next? Water treatment? It's up to you!I don't want to build my own smartphone from twigs and sticks. I want to be in a civilization with people doing tasks because they are the best at doing that task... ugggghhhhh
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnamNBx8EfbTtHjU0 by geonz@mathstodon.xyz
       2025-09-02T14:49:37Z
       
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       @futurebird .... I'm wearing a mask.   (I am a tutor in the library at community college so work 1:1 w/ people; don't have to talk to a whole class...)
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnawCVrgrSHG0HjZQ by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-09-02T14:51:25Z
       
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       @geonz As I understand it talking spreads particles and is a problem. I can also say that wearing a masks makes my lessons WORSE harder to hear, less clear, I don't like it.So, I will put on a mask if I "feel sick" but not sick enough to stay home. But honestly I have no idea what I'm doing.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnbTVZppccLwJ1Yx6 by stevegis_ssg@mas.to
       2025-09-02T14:57:24Z
       
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       @futurebird I work for a hospital, so I'm *required* to get a flu shot every year. I'm hoping they'll make covid vaccine boosters available in the same quick-and-easy-no-appointment-clinic-in-the-lobby that they do the flu shots in.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxncDyIlMlnkLeC6pE by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-09-02T15:05:50Z
       
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       @Retreival9096 "I don't want to build my own smartphone from twigs and sticks."OK. Technically this is kind of a lie, but only technically. I think you know what I mean.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxncOedunW4OYxBLhg by timo21@mastodon.sdf.org
       2025-09-02T15:07:24Z
       
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       @futurebird It is irritating that 'settled science' is being questioned by morons. I realize blood letting was once 'settled science', but they apparently did not bother to do comprehensive studies. We have studies as to the effectiveness of the vaccines.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxndkirFuFcVxdVb6W by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-09-02T15:22:53Z
       
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       @pthane This is just the kind of thing that makes me so confused.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxndwmwmWqUO7NqZZA by Enema_Cowboy@dotnet.social
       2025-09-02T15:25:06Z
       
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       @futurebird @Retreival9096 I am loathe to take advice from anyone on vaccines that did not at least pass an Organic Chemistry class.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnfdlGIln2jIX23Wq by fritzoids@mas.to
       2025-09-02T15:40:32Z
       
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       @futurebird in Germany they don't traditionally recommend flu shots to anybody under 65.When my children started going to daycare and later to school we would get the flu each year and each year we were miserable (I was sick for 3 weeks in 2018). We now get a flu shot and a Covid shot each year. However, it is at the discretion of the pediatrician, and each year I'm just waiting for the clinic we go to to simply refuse to give them to us.Missing school disrupts learning and affects grades.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnkUBPBDNO7FqR9Iu by llewelly@sauropods.win
       2025-09-02T16:29:21Z
       
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       @futurebird ... given the current state of the CDC, if there was a highly dangerous (like 1918 dangerous) flu variant spreading, it would probably get many months to spread before we knew. It is not an accident this happens at the same time as the attacks on vaccines.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnnX6QwSHSOZCLRiq by Zahlenzauberin@dresden.network
       2025-09-02T16:12:17Z
       
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       @futurebird the curse of not writing in your mother tongue while arriving at the station and seeing you're train arriving. The word I looked for was pharmacist but my brain gave me apothecary instead. In German a pharmacy is called Apotheke.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxntF8ZkLso1irHPs0 by pixplz@mastodon.social
       2025-09-02T17:33:39Z
       
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       @futurebird What am I doing? I'm getting a flu shot and a covid shot. Not a complicated decision.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxntSSahFMMPZ04q1o by pixplz@mastodon.social
       2025-09-02T17:45:42Z
       
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       @futurebird Yes, the viruses that cause flu and covid are spread through the air when people speak, sing, sneeze, cough etc. Wearing a well-fitting N95 mask significantly reduces the chance of getting infected and infecting other people. A person does not need to feel sick or show symptoms in order to be infectious. This is called asymptomatic transmission and is very common. None of this is particularly complicated or confusing. You can learn more here: https://peoplescdc.org/masking/
       
 (DIR) Post #AxntSZ0nNEnnTgKlXc by pixplz@mastodon.social
       2025-09-02T17:50:08Z
       
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       @futurebird As for the vaccines, they don't do much to prevent infection or transmission. They only make it less likely you'll get seriously ill, hospitalized or die if you do get infected, and their effectiveness wears off after a few months. That's why it's so important to get regular booster shots. Once a year for flu, 2-3 times a year for covid.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxntXsrJ0jI8ToQqZ6 by pixplz@mastodon.social
       2025-09-02T17:54:12Z
       
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       @futurebird @pthane The constant onslaught of political propaganda especially coming from the federal government is causing the confusion. The science, in comparison, isn't confusing. N95 masks greatly reduce infection and transmission. Vaccines and booster shots reduce the severity of illness. That's pretty much it. Follow the science, and ignore the rest.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxntY2X72f54U53rTk by pixplz@mastodon.social
       2025-09-02T18:00:38Z
       
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       @futurebird The People's CDC is a useful resource: https://peoplescdc.org/layers-of-protection/
       
 (DIR) Post #Axnuw8yepkrPNJ0EVs by mattmcirvin@mathstodon.xyz
       2025-09-02T18:35:29Z
       
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       @futurebird Their basic attitude is the Argument from Nature, driving a bias against any kind of medical intervention. If someone is gravely ill then the doctors can get involved, but minor illness is natural, so it's something you're supposed to just soldier through and you'll be OK if you're generally "strong" and "healthy" (if you're not that's your fault, it's all very moralized).And then on the other side of the coin, even very mild or rare side effects of medical intervention get regarded with hysteria. That's something the doctors DID; it's unnatural. "Natural" gets defined very oddly when it comes to nutritional supplements of course.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxnxTkm7WVBQ4EICfI by tipjip@bonn.social
       2025-09-02T19:03:53Z
       
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       @futurebirdI make an appointment with my doctor, tell him I want the flue+COVID shot. The inform me when the vaccine is available, I go there and get the shot. Germany here.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxpldHiJcKVNhHD9YO by GinevraCat@toot.community
       2025-09-03T16:00:36Z
       
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       @futurebird Whenever possible I get the flu shot every two years. I would do it every year, but my arm swells like a balloon and hurts for weeks. COVID vaccines I will get absolutely every one I am eligible for!
       
 (DIR) Post #AxqKVk17zyn1Yd9Ijg by lufthans@mastodon.social
       2025-09-03T22:31:26Z
       
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       @futurebird you're a classroom teacher, so you're high risk for airborne and surface communicable diseasesclassrooms are like petri dishesPS: thank you for being a teacher :)