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 (DIR) Post #Axallj0d6S0TIWP3ui by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-08-27T10:21:32Z
       
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       How do you define "social media" ?Is youTube social media?What about bugguide.net?Is LinkedIN?Minecraft?Email?I do think a definition is possible. Social media are online applications that allow social interactions in a mix of public, and/or private groups and networks. Email is not social media (though usenet might be)Bugguide and minecraft have social media functions but are not primarily social applications. LinkedIN is a cancer.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxamGGxxPtFbIhifhY by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-08-27T10:27:03Z
       
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       Honestly ban LinkedIN.
       
 (DIR) Post #Axan5XyZvveapDSYWe by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-08-27T10:36:18Z
       
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       Put age verification on LinkIN and you can only use it if you are over 100
       
 (DIR) Post #AxanSINU5rND6lxM6S by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-08-27T10:40:26Z
       
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       Sorry I got off topic and distracted by how annoying and corrosive "LinkedIn Culture" is how it seems to suck the living souls from human beings and bring out the most synthetic, empty, dangerous takes.
       
 (DIR) Post #Axanhlw2Txpp7eUzbc by noodlemaz@med-mastodon.com
       2025-08-27T10:43:11Z
       
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       @futurebird I hate it so muchI only log in when our team needs to recruit someone or somethingIt immediately makes me hate everyone and everything
       
 (DIR) Post #Axano5W2avxTaXLlVQ by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-08-27T10:44:22Z
       
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       @noodlemaz Is it really that hard to do hiring without it? We are able to mostly avoid it, but I work in education and if you want to know about someone you call the schools where they worked last. It ain't that deep.
       
 (DIR) Post #Axanujga9lC3uXS08W by toxy@mastodon.acc.sunet.se
       2025-08-27T10:45:30Z
       
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       @futurebird Deleted LinkedIn a while back. Best enema I ever had.
       
 (DIR) Post #Axao4nk1vsinNvrZ8y by louisa_@mastodon.social
       2025-08-27T10:47:19Z
       
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       @futurebird in the style of unrealistic job ads, you can only sign in to LinkedIn if you've got more than 25 years of experience of using LinkedIn. (It was started in 2003.)
       
 (DIR) Post #AxaoFmEhrxIttzRfMm by chessert@mastodon.online
       2025-08-27T10:49:20Z
       
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       @futurebird I never joined LinkedIn, and honestly never saw the point of it?Has anyone ever landed a great dream job with excellent benefits solely from their LinkedIn presence? I rather doubt it. Seriously: what’s the point/advantage?
       
 (DIR) Post #AxaoHHAgL4LM8RHGVM by joncounts@mastodon.nz
       2025-08-27T10:49:36Z
       
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       @futurebird We’re having the political debate in NZ too about whether we should ban young people from social media. Lots of righteous noise is being made. I’ve been a bit puzzled by it. It’s a clear admission that some social media is socially corrosive and dangerous. However, I don’t see that as an inherent feature of all social media, just a characteristic of certain poorly regulated big corporate for-profit social media platforms that we all know. I'd be happier banning all of those from NZ (if they cannot be effectively regulated) than I would be at trying (and mostly likely failing) to keep young people off all social media.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxaoLL4hldIROsQ3Au by dawngreeter@dice.camp
       2025-08-27T10:50:20Z
       
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       @futurebird @noodlemaz Modern recruiting is in a position where LinkedIn is mostly useless, but also there are no real alternatives to it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxaoSZ6zybKCxiwCwq by YourSecondDraft@aus.social
       2025-08-27T10:51:37Z
       
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       @futurebird this is a brilliant comment. I loathe it too for its humourless earnestness but you’ve hit the nail on the head about its evilness.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxaoZgBs3aFywXbpGi by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-08-27T10:52:58Z
       
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       @joncounts "It’s a clear admission that some social media is socially corrosive and dangerous."Exactly. These "social media is so bad, ban the children" people have recognized that something is deeply wrong with some of the most popular and influential social media used by adults. Their own experiences with propaganda, immersive relentless advertising, bullying, misinformation have shown them how these spaces are harmful but they don't think anything can be done about it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxaorLuOCfUtFhrLBQ by mensrea@freeradical.zone
       2025-08-27T10:56:07Z
       
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       @futurebird but where else am i going to keep my recruiter collection?
       
 (DIR) Post #AxaotoJpXsABwcvnwO by noodlemaz@med-mastodon.com
       2025-08-27T10:56:36Z
       
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       @futurebird we get a lot of applications from it (science communication, massive charity) and the windows are quite short, but we use a variety of things. We're asked to share it and it's a way I'm able to do that.I got a job through it once.
       
 (DIR) Post #Axaovj8FngbwRBQjuy by mensrea@freeradical.zone
       2025-08-27T10:56:55Z
       
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       @futurebird what about whatsapp? i tend to think it is
       
 (DIR) Post #AxaozlY6kvpz5lRuvQ by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-08-27T10:57:41Z
       
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       @joncounts Also I'm all in on the theory that "age verification" is just an attempt to mine everyone for identity data and the policies have nothing to do with online safety. I have not encountered anyone who organically supports these policies or thinks they will help at all. The people who are sincerely invested in the safety of online spaces are silent or say it won't work.  Many people are scared to say anything critical. Don't fall for that.
       
 (DIR) Post #Axap0lgPk9JxnToQTo by NatureMC@mastodon.online
       2025-08-27T10:57:48Z
       
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       @futurebird Good definition. 😁
       
 (DIR) Post #Axap1u8VnfOCItUqzg by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-08-27T10:58:04Z
       
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       @mensrea Can you find people you don't know on whatsapp?
       
 (DIR) Post #Axap40juDkXpMVzYKO by llewelly@sauropods.win
       2025-08-27T10:58:27Z
       
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       @futurebird however you define it, I would prefer the fediverse not get lumped in with facebook, or with the hellspace formerly known as twitter.
       
 (DIR) Post #Axaq1QhpJzqkytLuYS by mensrea@freeradical.zone
       2025-08-27T11:09:09Z
       
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       @futurebird i don't use it but connections can grow via groups at the very least
       
 (DIR) Post #Axar4B4I1CrnIwjWqm by claudio@famichiki.jp
       2025-08-27T11:20:47Z
       
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       @futurebird @FlockOfCats Please no. The alternative is Mastodon full of "I got age-locked out of LinkedIn. Here's five things it taught me"-posts
       
 (DIR) Post #AxarhUsYIS5w2Xza2C by LinuxAndYarn@mastodon.social
       2025-08-27T11:27:54Z
       
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       @futurebird You can only use LinkIN if you accept that the Republicans are now the pro-slavery party.
       
 (DIR) Post #Axav9r7HVkYuyn606i by thedansimonson@lingo.lol
       2025-08-27T12:06:41Z
       
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       @futurebird I’d say social media always has these attributes:- 1) users have profiles where they present themselves and content of some kind- 2) users can make persistent, software-embodied connections between one another, one-way or bidirectional- 3) functions (1) and (2) are the primary purpose of the platform and users are drawn to the platform by that functionality
       
 (DIR) Post #AxawuLunR0dnm5zW5Y by bucknam@mastodon.social
       2025-08-27T12:26:16Z
       
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       @futurebird my first young adult social media interactions were within usenet groups. I don’t know if they’re still small-ish enough (like, say, mastodon is now) to keep things feeling “social” and not like you’re swimming in an ocean. But back in the mid-‘90s it was possible to have a social group that felt sort of like a friend group online there.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxayfvRzEUTJYAlRQW by billseitz@toolsforthought.social
       2025-08-27T12:46:07Z
       
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       @futurebird 4chan for HR/midwit sockpuppets
       
 (DIR) Post #AxbH2jSdm1qQCW5w12 by stevegis_ssg@mas.to
       2025-08-27T16:11:54Z
       
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       @futurebird I post this so often I've saved the alt text as a text file so I don't have to type it in every time.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxbKl2nFYbf6lOYW3s by kboyd@phpc.social
       2025-08-27T16:53:31Z
       
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       @futurebird @tantramar I think anything that enables group chat should be considered social technology. Which includes multirecipient emails and mailing lists.Social media would be when it can be accessed & consumed by uninvolved parties. Forums and such.Social networking is when you have a timeline and follows/followers.And some offerings blur the line. Other offerings turn it into a mutated social toxic waste dump.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxbQnkh9typzE6Ngye by Infrapink@mastodon.ie
       2025-08-27T18:01:15Z
       
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       @futurebirdI would say social media is an online communication platform structured around following accounts rather than around conversations.Email, IRC, forums, Usenet, the phone network, and the postal network are not social media.Mastodon, Sharkey, Akkoma, BlueSly, MySpace, Twitter, Facebook, Friendica, LinkedIn, Reddit, and mbin are social media.Lemmy... might be:* https://lemmy.world/post/34860445/19007055* https://lemmy.world/post/34860445/18997011Telegram and Signal are borderline, but they seem closer to email.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxbXcKev3wcyyEpqxU by kboyd@phpc.social
       2025-08-27T19:16:22Z
       
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       @futurebird @tantramar addendum: having an "algorithm" makes it something different than social networking, I feel. It puts a thumb on the scale, undemocratizing it.It's more of a social feeding trough, in that case.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxbXcLlgwFdgPX0m9Y by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-08-27T19:17:39Z
       
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       @kboyd @tantramar More like social conditioning. I don't know how people stay in those spaces if you really think about what would be possible.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxbbFTQigaSlKUY7Jw by mu@mastodon.nz
       2025-08-27T19:58:14Z
       
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       @futurebird @joncounts you may be right that this is bad policy and tech, but the existing situation is pretty harmful. I don't know if there will be a net benefit, but I am glad that people are talking about it. I feel that this is a bit like the process that occurred when people first came up with traffic regulation... They started with unworkable ideas (like having someone walk ahead with a flag) and got to the compromise that we have today. Is it perfect? Absolutely not, a hell of a lot of people die on our roads, but it's better than not having road rules. I would love to get to the point where Meta, X, Tiktok and others aren't squeezing wallets and data, and it has been replaced by something open source.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxbgKzz9ZZP9W76psW by felix@mastodon.nz
       2025-08-27T20:55:10Z
       
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       @futurebird @joncounts I was talking to my nephew (17), and they proposed banning adults from social media. I think that would be a much more impactful approach.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxbgQETV82C9u3neAC by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-08-27T20:56:19Z
       
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       @felix @joncounts I kind of like it.