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 (DIR) Post #AxItBT0GRAPC1GAvjc by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-08-18T19:19:49Z
       
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       He is being funny I guess but ...I don't know what is it supposed to do? I guess if it cheers people up that's good? Maybe it could just make the online posting space messy and gross for everyone? Part of the Trump effect a kind of psychological warfare and modeling an obnoxious ignorance that makes it harder to work with people. Does it help something if that's going both ways?Is anyone learning anything from Newsom's sh*t posting? IDK.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxItUpJZhws4ieRIR6 by albnelson@beige.party
       2025-08-18T19:23:14Z
       
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       @futurebird I feel the same. I have some friends who love it but I'm not sure it really serves anyone except Newsom himself.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxItY7eC0KZoRfedtY by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-08-18T19:23:55Z
       
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       I do not think he would be a good presidential candidate. He's trying to have a different "style" but it's the same substance of the kind of Democrats who have lost.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxItfkhlBhTjbhxfcm by albnelson@beige.party
       2025-08-18T19:25:15Z
       
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       @futurebird yeah I mean if we end up there sure rah rah rah go team but in a primary there's a dozen I'd pick before him
       
 (DIR) Post #AxItpwcdjYuFSqQVO4 by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-08-18T19:27:08Z
       
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       @albnelson If he's the pick I will be just as sour as ever. And I think that's a problem... not just for me but because of what it says about how the party is functioning. "we're not them!"it ain't enough for many people
       
 (DIR) Post #AxIuDXcYL97qsEdaro by michael_w_busch@mastodon.online
       2025-08-18T19:31:22Z
       
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       @futurebird I keep being reminded that Newsom was neither my first nor my second choice for governor of California in 2018.And I do not like that I was given no choice but to vote for him after the primary that year.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxIuSM15laDLEBB9ZA by KanaMauna@sauropods.win
       2025-08-18T19:34:03Z
       
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       @futurebird   The important thing about bullies/fascists is that they can’t stand being mocked. Look how they reacted last year to being called weirdos. I think it’s a much better approach than sitting around and uselessly talking about norms being violated.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxIuubEmlka6Xi3JVg by johnzajac@dice.camp
       2025-08-18T19:39:08Z
       
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       @futurebird AFAIC, this image of him gledfully destroying a houseless person's property is literally all you need to know about Gavin Newsom to render him a disqualified from political office.He could threaten a tax revolt, slick his hair back, and have someone pound his face in cake makeup 1,000 times and I'd still think he was disqualified.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxIvwNRx6OVkJYcezA by zalasur@mastodon.surazal.net
       2025-08-18T19:50:39Z
       
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       @futurebird I'm amazed at how short people's memories are. Just a few short months ago he was holding interviews with right-wing personalities in an effort to appease them or something and now he's like this hero figure? Same with this whole South Park deal. The creators of that show are self-described independent libertarians who supported Bush Jr, for crying out loud. I'm fine with them sparring Trump. We need more of that, but the hero worship is overblown. 😅
       
 (DIR) Post #AxIwVlfz1NN3aQ3qSW by Barbramon1@mas.to
       2025-08-18T19:57:04Z
       
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       @futurebird As a Californian, I believe Newsom is a generally good governor, and I strongly support strategies he's using against trump.That said, I doubt he can win a national election.He and our state are not just disliked in the heartland but hated. The hatred is a product of the republican big lie machine, but it exists. I would prefer to see Pritzker or someone else from the heartland run.We don't know yet who will run. It could be an unknown who is not even on the national radar yet.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxJ0O5Ps8xnqJF7MzA by pthenq1@mastodon.la
       2025-08-18T20:40:25Z
       
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       @futurebird https://youtube.com/shorts/pbcPoNDONv8
       
 (DIR) Post #AxJAwoLqa7EX3oQpvs by teamseaslug@hcommons.social
       2025-08-18T22:38:49Z
       
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       @futurebird I'll echo everyone else in this thread's hesitancy to follow Newsom too far.The place where it might be valuable is that this playbook may give the pearl clutching "we can't do anything, even though we haven't tried" leadership dems a playbook to disrupt the current admin. Having them do *anything* is better than what they're up to now.The two problems are 1) the guy is an establishment slug who has been trying to tap into conservative bullshit while ramping up to a presidential campaign (see his anti-trans podcast) and 2) none of the things he is doing addresses any of the structural things the dems need to campaign on to win.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxJRjdd6pbETGRoJUG by albnelson@beige.party
       2025-08-19T01:46:53Z
       
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       @futurebird definitely not enough for me either. It’s all a long way off. I don’t mind what he’s doing now but also don’t assign it any great significance.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxKj1YopLkhvw0NpIG by burnitdown@beige.party
       2025-08-19T16:35:21Z
       
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       @futurebird it's distraction. how do you not see the exact sameness between that and what happens during USA electoral campaign time? they can't lovebomb, so they tell jokes to make you forget how they beat you up and took your lunch money.