Post AxF4RQ1Nc736GefNtQ by adorfer@chaos.social
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(DIR) Post #AxF27b9CKzyf4gkDaa by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-08-16T22:41:10Z
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I posted this question a while ago and was surprised that I got zero responses (even "foolish question"!)Is there any qualitative difference in security, risk, tracking, whatever writ broadly, to an android phone, on mobile data only vs wifi only?
(DIR) Post #AxF4RQ1Nc736GefNtQ by adorfer@chaos.social
2025-08-16T23:07:06Z
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@tomjennings assuming there is no "wifi-calling" SIM service, so the android is REALLY on Wifi only: No silent SMS possible.
(DIR) Post #AxF5GvnfDjtdb2oWx6 by labria@social.yeschenko.com
2025-08-16T23:16:25Z
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@tomjennings if you’re on wifi only, you’re not giving your nearly exact position to your provider all the time, if I understood the question correctly
(DIR) Post #AxF978OTwSEbZncSeW by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-08-16T23:59:30Z
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@adorfer I had no idea sms ping/silent sms existed but of course it does. I've been insufficiently paranoid. Very interesting. I'm not thinking I'm clever enough to make a stealth phone or anything like that. I'm just curious where the exposures are, approximately. And with this one thing I now know I know almost nothing. "Thanks" lol!
(DIR) Post #AxF9NX1y6tVecTuLFw by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-08-17T00:02:28Z
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@labria Thanks. Yes, that seems very likely. I wonder if mobile data really turns off, fully.
(DIR) Post #AxFDS1yNPTYzYld1cG by labria@social.yeschenko.com
2025-08-17T00:48:04Z
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@tomjennings if you’re only turning off “mobile data” you’re still very much pinging the towers. Airplane mode _should_ turn radio off properly, but not sure if it really does.
(DIR) Post #AxFIEtmP3mVc9haMLY by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-08-17T01:41:45Z
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@labria Oh right, right. I meant to say, "turn off radio" eg. airplane mode. My bad.
(DIR) Post #AxFIO0xFkjtv0y0VCS by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-08-17T01:43:24Z
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@adorfer I guess I need to RTFM wifi-calling. Mine's enabled. I'll experiment with it.
(DIR) Post #AxFReZaFfb46dSDdYm by adorfer@chaos.social
2025-08-17T03:27:11Z
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@tomjennings SilentSMS/StealthPing is part of the BasebandProcessor, which is a HardMac. The only way to turn that off is not to provide any SIM to the Baseband. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseband_processor