Post AxCyKQQUimNrSJmAG8 by clacke@libranet.de
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(DIR) Post #Ax8t7bGLqNOoteFzI8 by clacke@libranet.de
2025-08-13T23:31:15Z
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The AMD E1 was a disaster of a CPU to put in a laptop, and anyone contributing to such actions should have been prosecuted for some form of criminal negligence. In AMD's defense, they were aiming for something below 10W power consumption, for embedded purposes. But of course people put them in laptops to squeeze every last penny.This post brought to you by me touching one of these doorstops again. Somehow HP was still allowing itself to sell these as late as 2014."Wow, this is amazingly slow, I haven't seen a computer this slow since that stupid E1 laptop I had ... ah. It's an E1 laptop."
(DIR) Post #Ax8tKJnE6hucTnhMw4 by clacke@libranet.de
2025-08-13T23:33:54Z
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In 2010 laptops had reached the point where I would tell people "if you want a laptop, just buy the cheapest thing you can find, the entire range of machines on the market has good enough performance for anything you'll do, and have been for years". And then in 2012, AMD launched the E1, proving me wrong, no, turning my statement wrong.On paper it's a 64-bit dual-core CPU with a built-in 3D GPU and a clock frequency a bit below 2 GHz, sounds pretty decent, baseline for its time, can't go wrong. But in practical use, it performed worse than a 32-bit single-core Intel Core from 2006. It was some kind of engineering miracle, but in reverse. Was it a disastrously small L1 cache? Horribly low memory bandwidth? Slow instructions? I don't know how they did it, but even if you run Debian with Mate on it, it's sluggish. Windows XP would have been slow on it. And yet it would run in a laptop that shipped with Windows 8, as that was the MS OS of that year.Selling one of these laptops should have qualified as a scam.
(DIR) Post #Ax8uM5gBeTg9EyoZuq by clacke@libranet.de
2025-08-13T23:44:54Z
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For your reference, a MacBook Pro or an HP EliteBook from 2012 would have cost 5-10 times as much to buy, but you would have a laptop that is *still* of good enough performance for everyday use in 2025. The E1 laptops were frustrating to use on the day of their release.Vimes Boots Theory strikes again?#AMDE1
(DIR) Post #Ax8vgKCjSSr22DFYQK by clacke@libranet.de
2025-08-14T00:00:30Z
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This thread written on a refurbished Lenovo ThinkPad T440p, originally released in 2013. Intel Core i7 CPU @ 2.8 GHz. Still a good machine.
(DIR) Post #Ax8wfEy7XSOTSeSiWm by steeph@todon.eu
2025-08-14T00:09:56Z
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@clacke Is it comparable with intel Atom? There have been a few interesting mini laptops with those that at the time justified low performance. I always found it weird that people used Windows 7 and later even 8 on those machines when the previous Windows was still supported.Something like that but amd64 compatible surely has its use in embedded boards. But it says something that I've forgotten about, or worse, never heard of the E1.
(DIR) Post #Ax9t8ZwORF0UFDLeN6 by vam103@mathstodon.xyz
2025-08-14T11:06:25Z
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@clacke I have two of those (an i5 and an i7 with a NVIDIA discrete GPU) that mysteriously died to the point where even the BIOS screen does not load. Very sad when they died. Think they were running Windows 10 and Linux Mint in the end. Plus a DVD drive...Although the AMD A8 in the Lenovo S41-70 was pretty bad at running Windows 10 and the Previews of Windows 11 were terrible.
(DIR) Post #AxCy7IODI4tWlWRqgy by clacke@libranet.de
2025-08-15T22:45:41Z
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@steeph I think the E1 is somehow even worse than the Atom – again, not sure how they managed to achieve that – but don't take my word for it, I haven't seen an Atom in a loong time.
(DIR) Post #AxCyKQQUimNrSJmAG8 by clacke@libranet.de
2025-08-15T22:48:00Z
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@steeph Regardless of any head-to-head comparison, the Atom was a justifiable choice for a netbook in its time. The E1 was not a justifiable choice for anything running a desktop OS with a desktop web browser in 2012.
(DIR) Post #AxEkWzemYDoF9bTf5U by lnxw37j1@gnusocial.jp
2025-08-16T00:18:04Z
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@clacke Honestly, I never heard of the AMD E-1 until you just posted about it. I know that when everyone started getting excited about ARM's lower power consumption, both Intel and AMD started working on reducing consumption on certain models. But I haven't ever purchased any computer or CPU based on lower power consumption. I still want a screen I can see and Wi-Fi that stays connected.