Post Ax5c7xCM0TeeEX5esa by jmaris@eupolicy.social
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 (DIR) Post #Ax5c7xCM0TeeEX5esa by jmaris@eupolicy.social
       2025-08-12T09:23:18Z
       
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       Following a #FreedomOfInformation request, I can reveal that in 2005 — almost two decades ago — the #EuropeanCommission trialled the deployment of an Open Source stack (#Linux desktops with #OpenOffice) and that trial was mostly successful.Here is the Commission's report on that trial 🔗 ⬇️ https://jmaris.me/OSS_at_EU.pdf#DigitalSovereignty #EUpol #OpenSource #DigitalAutonomy #EU
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax5c7yVX8eagIJ4UPg by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
       2025-08-12T09:37:27Z
       
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       @jmaris seems like SuSE is European-owned again - time for round two?
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax5cMHFEGtaYSbGUe8 by dazo@infosec.exchange
       2025-08-12T09:40:03Z
       
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       @wolf480pl This project was kicked off a while ago https://eu-os.eu/https://eu-os.eu/faq#eu-project@jmaris
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax8l7WIhUf0VsDo4JM by dan@social.coop
       2025-08-13T21:43:23Z
       
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       @dazo @wolf480pl @jmaris that project is hyperdependent on Red Hat
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax8l7XvNSLXUuSuTEe by dazo@infosec.exchange
       2025-08-13T21:54:19Z
       
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       @dan What's the issue with that?  All the Fedora work RH does is open source, with proper open source licences.In fact, most of the work done by RH on the kernel, GNOME, KDE, Wayland, Pipewire, systemd, LibreOffice, etc, etc ... It ends up in all the Linux distros - as it is all open source. And some of that work even up in *BSD, Windows and macOS.@wolf480pl @jmaris
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax8l7ZDqd9uMw2YjfE by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
       2025-08-13T22:02:20Z
       
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       @dazo @dan @jmaris dependsIf the EU institutions want to pay the company behind the distro for support and/or customization work, you want that money to be spent inside the EU, to develop local expertise.Also, even when we do have experts in Europe, if EU institutions were using Fedora, and one day USA decided to ban export of software, making a European fork of Fedora would be a pain, and so would switching to another distro.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax8laoQdAoO0UhU2nQ by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
       2025-08-13T22:07:42Z
       
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       @dazo @dan @jmaris Also, in a way, distro maintainers are meant to represent users' interest. They decide which software goes in and which doesn't, when to update, what to patch, what the default configs should be, and which of your changes get reverted on update.A distro that acts against your interest can be a major pain, so it makes sense that a govt would prefer to use a distro maintained by its citizens - it lowers the chances of misaligned incentives.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax9h5KdNh0uyS98nA0 by dazo@infosec.exchange
       2025-08-14T08:51:53Z
       
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       @wolf480pl One of Red Hats largest engineer sites, with developers, QA and support is located in Brno, the Czech Republic - last time I was there, it was around 1000 employees there.  There is a large site in München, Germany and lots of other places all over Europe - all having engineers, sales or support personnel.If there would be a disruption with Fedora making it impossible to use in Europe - there is a lot of professional Fedora competence all around Europe.  And I know many of them would happily join a new (European) company doing similar work on a fork of Fedora if that would be needed.And this is just the "business side" of this matter.  Everything RH does is open source.  Fedora is built on open source.  Both the work RH and Fedora developers does has an "upstream first" approach; meaning that upstream projects should accept changes before they are shipped in a distro release or update.Forking Fedora is not impossible.  And if there are doubts about that, look at what Rocky Linux and Alma Linux has achieved.  Considering the amount of people in Europe with RH and Fedora expertise, a fork of Fedora would be very much likely if there is a RH/Fedora disruption impacting Europe negatively.The Fedora Project is also managed openly and transparently, where people sitting in the various councils and boards are typically elected by its users and contributors.https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/orgchart/@dan @jmaris