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(DIR) Post #Ax2YN6rFOOAhFFJF6O by ricci@discuss.systems
2025-08-10T22:11:15Z
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One of the reasons I'm so skeptical of AI getting shoved into everything is that it is not forward-looking, it's just reinforcing all of the bad systems and processes we already have. It's not just that I miss a past, pre-AI world (though I do), it's that when I think of a genuinely better future, it mostly involves ripping out the systems that AI is trying its hardest to perpetuate.AI is not the future, it's the present, repeated endlessly.
(DIR) Post #Ax2actMPXiHjvQXUoq by jadp@mastodon.social
2025-08-10T22:36:29Z
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@ricci By “AI” do you mean LLM/GPT? If yes, absolutely agree. It’s a shame AI was completely conflated with this slop. While intelligence isn’t artificial and machines don’t learn, they’re great marketing tools to get grants…starting about the year I was born 👴🏼
(DIR) Post #Ax2iPri3AXnMfoxaoi by tj@howse.social
2025-08-11T00:03:45Z
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@ricci It's like an enormous, immortal cyberboomer, reinforcing the status quo of its training data. Forever.
(DIR) Post #Ax3FuIQdgnKSiTw0dE by PaniczGodek@functional.cafe
2025-08-11T06:19:02Z
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@ricci while I think there are contexts where it's OK to antromorphise AI (as in "it's trying to..."), this isn't one of them.There are actual human actors (with names, faces etc.) who have their interest in shaping the adoption of AI in some particular ways.
(DIR) Post #Ax3LpbKgZosvchIJXM by saxnot@chaos.social
2025-08-11T07:25:25Z
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@ricci very well put!
(DIR) Post #Ax3yBdBe9yja0EzwyO by renwillis@mstdn.social
2025-08-11T14:35:10Z
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@ricci this x 1000! I keep talking about this at work. If you have slow or bad processes and just keeping throwing bodies at it (human OR "AI") instead of, you know, fixing the processes... then you aren't really doing anything at all.
(DIR) Post #Ax3zDHZ9cIBLTqLRSK by jplebreton@mastodon.social
2025-08-11T14:46:42Z
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@ricci very similar to how a primary objective of AVs / "self driving cars" is to prolong societies' dependence on cars.
(DIR) Post #Ax4BI4QV5zBNcuLYsC by ricci@discuss.systems
2025-08-11T17:02:03Z
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@jadp This is a good question, I am mostly thinking about the way that AI is being *used* and *marketed*. Eg. still customer service reps, but now they're AI. Still roads jammed full of cars, but now they are driving themselves. Still putting pointless "hero images" on our blog posts but now they're AI. Issuing bullshit corporate "apology" letters but now they're AI.Technologically, LLMs and stuff are really quite interesting but what people are doing with them or claiming they will do is pretty much just more of the same. But AI.
(DIR) Post #Ax4BJqAh49tlzjnUVU by ricci@discuss.systems
2025-08-11T17:02:24Z
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@jplebreton :1000:
(DIR) Post #Ax4BQNxGNCOSVedUwK by ricci@discuss.systems
2025-08-11T17:03:34Z
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@renwillis As an example, my hypothesis is the companies that are using AI in their hiring practices were already bad at hiring.
(DIR) Post #Ax4BT5AqelUN89HCng by ricci@discuss.systems
2025-08-11T17:04:04Z
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@PaniczGodek Yeah, fair, the agency here is human agency
(DIR) Post #Ax4Bs4VIHlESI7kuDw by jadp@mastodon.social
2025-08-11T17:08:32Z
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@ricci I see your point. Regardless of the underlying technology, mathematics, algorithms and heuristics, we’re using these new tools to do exactly what we have always done.
(DIR) Post #Ax4BxvpjR0Gj8d6qye by ricci@discuss.systems
2025-08-11T17:09:37Z
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@jadp And that's kind of all they *can* do, by their nature.At least LLMs, etc.
(DIR) Post #Ax4CUBEfhkzOAr9Usi by jadp@mastodon.social
2025-08-11T17:15:26Z
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@ricci True. I’m much more excited by the work being done in causal inference. But I was excited by that in 1988, when the head of AI research where I was working, asked me to help her team understand Dr. Judea Pearl’s Bayesian Neural Networks. (I was the only Bayesian there, but I was using empirical Bayes and Bayesian Weighted Variables in Boolean trees for cause-consequence analysis.) But your point may still hold, even with different tools, we may still do what we have always done. /sigh
(DIR) Post #Ax4Cd1kWLO4rMKGfbc by leeloo@chaosfem.tw
2025-08-11T17:16:56Z
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@ricciI once described it as "If intelligence is the ability to come up with new ideas, AI is the ability to predict the past".
(DIR) Post #Ax4EciUk8DF5YCrrEm by renwillis@mstdn.social
2025-08-11T17:38:56Z
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@ricci totally! In my world, it's look at for bandaiding or improving efficiencies in our work process (i.e. areas where you would normally throw bodies at it) instead of review *WHY* there are inefficiencies in the process first.
(DIR) Post #Ax4i5EXRU90Li952eW by ricci@discuss.systems
2025-08-11T23:09:28Z
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Another reason I'm skeptical of AI getting shoved into everything is that private infrastructure is a great way to concentrate wealth - just ask the railroad barons. The people pushing AI know this.You take money that was being paid to millions of people, and pay it to one guy, who in turn employs a couple thousand guys.If you think we have wealth inequality now, just wait...
(DIR) Post #Ax58LliCVoci2Repvs by BillySmith@social.coop
2025-08-12T04:03:45Z
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@ricci The mechanisms that could be used to create an Economy of Abundance, instead being used to continue the Economy of Scarcity. Short-sighted and petty. Definitie lack of vision.
(DIR) Post #Ax5NSWgEITZWl2PqkK by econads@mendeddrum.org
2025-08-12T06:53:04Z
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@ricci @jadp THANKYOU. Some of its useful, but most of the uses it's being put to are already working fine. Like they've found a solution and go looking for problems.
(DIR) Post #Ax5WgLTzcmKtfgMBHc by davetortoise@social.vivaldi.net
2025-08-12T08:36:24Z
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@ricci technology used to be so exciting. In the 90's we had probably the most rapid advance in consumer technology the world has ever seen, and it was *so cool*. Like you could be really optimistic about it, even if there were a couple red flags. Now whenever a new technology is developed, it's just the super-rich finding yet another way to make the world worse and squeeze more profits out of a decaying economy. In a sensible world I'd be able to be excited about AI and the future, but it's all just so bleak now.
(DIR) Post #Ax5mG4zRv5AwG2ZFY0 by ThreeSigma@mastodon.online
2025-08-12T11:30:58Z
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@ricci I hadn’t considered it explicitly, but you’re right. If someone releases a new, brilliant programming language tomorrow, adoption would be even more stunted than usual because the AI would lack a training set and be unable to help. It reinforces use of old systems.
(DIR) Post #Ax6068kgTdsEO4oeXo by justin@toot.io
2025-08-12T14:06:01Z
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@ricci and the past. Its input data is all of our history... Humanity has some seriously dark times.
(DIR) Post #Ax60d48geGnfdYk8oq by ThreeSigma@mastodon.online
2025-08-12T14:12:00Z
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@ricci My hope is that these two things cancel. If we can’t change any system because AI needs it stable, then all of our old interfaces will still work, and we avoid lock-in. If we innovate, the AI is locked out. Maybe I’m missing something big tho. Like a making the old stuff even more Byzantine so we need AI to navigate it?
(DIR) Post #Ax6G8AX8QIVFl4T3oW by tsadilas@libretooth.gr
2025-08-12T17:05:39Z
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@ricci well said!
(DIR) Post #Ax6HMxCsM0CUiwbbjE by yianiris@libretooth.gr
2025-08-12T17:19:32Z
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Maybe we waste so much damn time retrieving data from our slow brain that Ai fills a gap, this may allow brains to do much more than trivial tasks, like trying to remember the name of an artist or a song, or the date our sister got married, or the year grandma died.Then there will be a phase splitting people between those who use Ai and those who don't. You can tell them apart from scratching their heads.I don't use the shit, don't blame me :)@ricci