Post Ax0FcdTw5nM5KDAxaS by Nonilex@masto.ai
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 (DIR) Post #Ax0EXg3Uzqkxu9sjZo by Nonilex@masto.ai
       2025-08-09T19:19:36Z
       
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       Amid rising #electric #bills, states are under pressure to insulate regular household & business ratepayers from the costs of feeding #BigTech’s #energy hungry #DataCenters.It’s not clear that any state has a solution & the actual effect of data centers on #electricity bills is difficult to pin down. Some critics question whether states have the spine to take a hard line against #tech behemoths like #Microsoft, #Google, #Amazon & #Meta.https://apnews.com/article/electricity-prices-data-centers-artificial-intelligence-fbf213a915fb574a4f3e5baaa7041c3a?utm_source=onesignal&utm_medium=push&utm_campaign=2025-08-09-Tech%27s+price+tag
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax0ElAtrd1NdKeoMGO by Nonilex@masto.ai
       2025-08-09T19:22:05Z
       
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       More than a dozen states have begun taking steps as #DataCenters drive a rapid build-out of #PowerPlants & transmission lines.That has meant pressuring the nation’s biggest #power #grid operator to clamp down on price increases, studying the effect of data centers on #electricity #bills or pushing #DataCenter owners to pay a larger share of local transmission costs.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax0EskfF3YwwHPaJiy by Nonilex@masto.ai
       2025-08-09T19:23:27Z
       
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       Rising #power #bills are “something legislators have been hearing a lot about. It’s something we’ve been hearing a lot about. More people are speaking out at the public utility commission in the past year than I’ve ever seen before,” said Charlotte Shuff of the Oregon Citizens’ Utility Board, a consumer advocacy group. “There’s a massive outcry.”#BigTech #DataCenters #PowerPlants #grid #electricity
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax0F7yR28gUbKiCIdc by Nonilex@masto.ai
       2025-08-09T19:26:11Z
       
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       Some #DataCenters could require more #electricity than cities the size of Pittsburgh, Cleveland or New Orleans, & make huge factories look tiny by comparison. That’s pushing policymakers to rethink a system that, historically, has spread transmission #costs among classes of #consumers that are proportional to electricity use.#BigTech #PowerPlants #grid
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax0FDxf1vl88fYbDSi by Nonilex@masto.ai
       2025-08-09T19:27:15Z
       
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       “A lot of this #infrastructure, billions of dollars of it, is being built just for a few customers & a few facilities & these happen to be the wealthiest companies in the world,” said Ari Peskoe, who directs the Electricity #Law Initiative at Harvard University. “I think some of the fundamental assumptions behind all this just kind of breaks down.”#BigTech #DataCenters #PowerPlants #grid #electricity
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax0FcdTw5nM5KDAxaS by Nonilex@masto.ai
       2025-08-09T19:31:41Z
       
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       …The #DataCenters needed to accommodate the #ArtificialIntelligence boom are still in the regulatory planning stages, & the Data Center Coalition, which represents #BigTech firms & data center developers, has said its members are committed to paying their fair share.But growing evidence suggests that the #electricity #bills of some Americans are rising to subsidize the massive #energy needs of Big Tech as the US competes in a race against China for #AI superiority.#power #grid
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax0H0Y2q3htFMmT2QK by huntingdon@mstdn.social
       2025-08-09T19:47:13Z
       
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       @Nonilex Oh, my, yes. Big Tech should pay for its own energy infrastructure. Consumers should be isolated from its costs and liabilities.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax0KnjEhXQ9c7z9tlQ by nonproductive@mastodon.social
       2025-08-09T20:29:42Z
       
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       @Nonilex Annnd… as the US begins to weaponize the pattern recognition expertise of AI for surveillance…Both OpenAI and Anthropic have both already partnered with Palantir - and OpenAI now requires *biometric* verification to use GPT-5 via API.Every query will be tied to a specific person. That data will be mixed with IRS data, FBI Data, Social Media Data, etc…Sad state when the Chinese LLMs seem safer than US based companies.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax0MG9nGUWmyYaRewi by rupert@mastodon.nz
       2025-08-09T20:46:03Z
       
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       @Nonilex It's not that no-one can solve the problem - the Romans solved the public utility priority problem 2,000 years ago - it's that our politics are so corrupt that nothing can be done in the public interest if it inconveniences the obscenely rich.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax0P4p0TjglElSucU4 by EugestShirley@m.ai6yr.org
       2025-08-09T21:17:37Z
       
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       @Nonilex It might take them a decade or more to figure that out. Energy and water.They also haven't regulated avoiding foreign nationals from building their own data centers in the US, using electricity here.Reminds me of the Arizona alfalfa farming scandal. Finally cancelled in 2023.https://apnews.com/article/saudi-arabia-drought-arizona-alfalfa-water-agriculture-0d13957edaf882690e15c0bd9ccfa59f
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax0WzwJ3y2tDacmuKe by airisdamon@mastodon.social
       2025-08-09T22:46:20Z
       
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       @Nonilex I hear that espionage is a good way to tackle said problems with "big tech."
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax0miPXE9lwaIJ4otM by aka_quant_noir@hcommons.social
       2025-08-10T01:42:25Z
       
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       @Nonilex The obvious solution is to throttle their supply to what's "extra" in the system. If they don't like it, they can cover their data center in solar panels and wind turbines, or fund the buildout of same on other nearby sites, if they don't want to contribute to the grid.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax1BKZAtA8oO5yM3to by mmiasma@mastodon.sdf.org
       2025-08-10T06:18:10Z
       
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       @Nonilex Pretty sure we already know the answer to that in Wyoming.No. 😠 Source: https://cowboystatedaily.com/2025/07/29/cheyenne-to-get-massive-ai-data-center-powered-by-gas-and-carbon-capture/