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 (DIR) Post #Awtlrwb78it7Nk9oHY by lextenebris@social.vivaldi.net
       2025-08-06T16:30:05Z
       
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       #TTRPG #DnD #TravellerIt bugs me when people denigrate other people's fantasy, especially when it's deeply unfounded. What is the fantasy of the D&D character compared to the Traveler character? What is the ultimate epic expression of both?https://grimtokens.garden/Thoughts/The+Fantasy+-+DnD+vs+Traveller
       
 (DIR) Post #Awtn2TqWTeFhLmx78i by phaedral@mastodon.social
       2025-08-06T16:43:10Z
       
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       @lextenebris https://www.sjgames.com/gurps/books/lensman/outtakes/lensvanb.html
       
 (DIR) Post #Awtublc17Az0GVwN4C by lextenebris@social.vivaldi.net
       2025-08-06T18:08:00Z
       
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       @phaedral I mean, it's GURPS, so you know it's well-researched. And it's Lensmen, which means that your power level top-end is looking at the power cosmic and sneering a little bit at the upstart. As power fantasies go, it's pretty awesome. As systems go to actually make use of that power fantasy, GURPS was definitely not my choice. But it is what it is.
       
 (DIR) Post #Awtv7qNEwjzYIfK9g0 by phaedral@mastodon.social
       2025-08-06T18:13:47Z
       
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       @lextenebris Great response!My point was more that Traveler was no less inspired by characters such as vanBuskurk than D&D was by Conan.
       
 (DIR) Post #AwtxHtmnJZgRgeCPrc by lextenebris@social.vivaldi.net
       2025-08-06T18:38:03Z
       
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       @phaedral Oh sure, but the Traveller material itself doesn't lean into that particular side of the fantasy particularly heavily, which is a total shame because pushing hard on that straight-up, over-the-top military fantasy is also really neat. And yes, I know there was plenty of material that spoke about it, but very little in the published adventure side of things.(I would argue that D&D wasn't nearly as influenced by Robert E. Howard as a lot of the adherents like to put forward. If the sword and sandals experience is what you're looking for, there are way better games for pursuing that, including On Mighty Thews, but at this point we're just getting into finding the right tool for the right job, which I love to do, don't get me wrong.) https://www.drivethrurpg.com/en/product/171413/on-mighty-thews
       
 (DIR) Post #Awu1SCaSfQeQi4bCa0 by phaedral@mastodon.social
       2025-08-06T19:24:42Z
       
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       @lextenebris What I liked about pre-gurps "labyrinth" was the vibe of universality which eventually evolved into gurps. I agree D&D probably owes more to table to civil war reenactment than Conan. I can see kids who staged a table top Appomattox setting up a table "Battle of the Five Armies" from The Hobbit.Anyway, I never felt limited in any system.