Post AwtIe5mhHzf79KcMpU by j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz
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 (DIR) Post #AwtIe31TYahWaIVcwq by julesh@mathstodon.xyz
       2025-08-06T09:50:10Z
       
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       My thoughts about this just clicked. I have seen a bunch of cases of professed non-programmers building pretty big things entirely by vibe-coding, and they work fine. This allows people to participate in creation without years of training, and in the end that is not a bad thingThere are a bunch of other systems like this, that allow non-experts to simulate being able to do the real thing. Playing a shooter with aimbot. Playing guitar with 3 chords. Driving automatic.These are all perfectly good things that allow amateurs to match the performance of experts, and none of them are bad things. But if you don't take the hit and switch over to the real thing sooner or later, you'll be a novice forever.
       
 (DIR) Post #AwtIe4i3HmLtodR8wy by johncarlosbaez@mathstodon.xyz
       2025-08-06T10:34:50Z
       
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       @julesh - I don't think people need to learn to drive with a stick shift, these days.  If you're a race-car driver or some other sort of specialist, okay, yeah.(I do know how to drive with a stick shift, but that's because I'm old!)
       
 (DIR) Post #AwtIe5mhHzf79KcMpU by j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz
       2025-08-06T10:48:47Z
       
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       @johncarlosbaez That is because for most people being a novice at driving a car is good enough, which I think was part of @julesh 's point.(In Europe, contrary to the US, the vast majority of cars have a manual gearbox.)
       
 (DIR) Post #AwtIe6mNaf0CEdTcyO by johncarlosbaez@mathstodon.xyz
       2025-08-06T10:54:12Z
       
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       @j_bertolotti @julesh - a "novice" means an inexpert newbie, and there are plenty of people in the US who have driven cars successfully and well using an automatic gearshift.   They're not novices."In 1957 over 80% of new cars in the United States had automatic transmissions...."and by now it must be higher.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_transmission
       
 (DIR) Post #AwtIe7mlqguRM8fSDo by josh@squ.alid.pw
       2025-08-06T11:02:29.513027Z
       
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       @johncarlosbaez @j_bertolotti @julesh more importantly for the future, EVs are effectively automatics