Post AwZpXQY5BHCuCZv1XM by eriner@noauthority.social
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(DIR) Post #AwZDahyqkzgXWNqt8a by eriner@noauthority.social
2025-07-27T18:31:48Z
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(DIR) Post #AwZDheDx7bGRtkE1NQ by eriner@noauthority.social
2025-07-27T18:33:04Z
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o7 little buddy
(DIR) Post #AwZE5UE3wjYPq5dykK by PNS@noauthority.social
2025-07-27T18:37:23Z
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@eriner This is the sort of thing mother water heaters tell their little ones at bedtime.
(DIR) Post #AwZEKXaJjwjCbIEQT2 by HuckleberryFinnandNiggerJim@pieville.net
2025-07-27T18:40:05Z
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@eriner your water heater is shot
(DIR) Post #AwZEfMKgloJfmfqfqK by eriner@noauthority.social
2025-07-27T18:43:52Z
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@HuckleberryFinnandNiggerJim most likely. It's possible that it's the outlet pipe fitting leaking, but it's also possible the liner is cracked. I have no way of knowing short of taking it apart (at which point I'd replace the fitting and see if that fixes it), but this tank is old enough and wasn't taken care of by the prior owner (anode never replaced), so I'll probably replace the unit. More cost effective in the long run irrespective of where the issue is.
(DIR) Post #AwZEuukv4I5etBXEZ6 by HuckleberryFinnandNiggerJim@pieville.net
2025-07-27T18:46:39Z
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@eriner I built a rig with a 4' 4x4 post and a winch that I hook onto a dolly to winch them out of basements. There is usually a door jamb you can use to brace the 4x4 and it crank it on up.
(DIR) Post #AwZFIB2Uh0xY3Gqd9s by eriner@noauthority.social
2025-07-27T18:50:53Z
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@HuckleberryFinnandNiggerJim Usually they're not too heavy when empty, I thought? I figured I'd drain it and be able to either get it on a dolly or roll it around on the base.
(DIR) Post #AwZFQCnq1H8fq1oxSC by HuckleberryFinnandNiggerJim@pieville.net
2025-07-27T18:52:19Z
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@eriner they are still very heavy, I suggest building the rig. If you have 2 strong men they are doable, but on your own, it's a bad situation.
(DIR) Post #AwZGT7B1UefvDDcIGO by TboneShuffle@noauthority.social
2025-07-27T19:04:03Z
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@eriner I just did mine last year that was dated 08. They really only last about 10-15 years at most.
(DIR) Post #AwZmc31flWhSphGrK4 by eriner@noauthority.social
2025-07-28T01:04:14Z
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She was a good lass.Born the 33’d week of 2008, she lived 17 years. (That’s 119 in dog years.)While nothing can replace her in my heart, I picked up a new tank. Have to wait until Tuesday to install it (full port drain ball valve is in the mail).If it is any consolation, I will treat the new one better than the previous owners treated you. I will replace the anode rod biannually and drain it semi-annually.Goodbye, old friend. You lived a long, hot-water fulfilling life.
(DIR) Post #AwZmkofqUmTYvXF6pM by p
2025-07-28T01:05:50.661554Z
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@eriner :bigbosssalute:
(DIR) Post #AwZmuZ2PU7PZKQRer2 by Richard@noauthority.social
2025-07-28T01:07:35Z
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@eriner what is the current state of waterheaters? They still make good ones, or have they been gimped up to be 'more efficient'?
(DIR) Post #AwZnBT0t8YthZBnEyu by eriner@noauthority.social
2025-07-28T01:10:39Z
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@Richard I'm not sure, but they're not rocket science. It's just a tank with ports for in, out, drain, two heating elements, and an anode rod. I'd suspect the anti-corrosion plasticy sprays have actually improved over time, as has the insulation.I replaced it 1:1 in size and capacity. If I'd wanted to spend twice the money, I could have bought a plastic one (Rheem Marathon) which, absent a metal tank, is supposed to hold up better.At half the price I figured I'd buy basic and take care of it
(DIR) Post #AwZnMECIYxLOnjGGrw by Richard@noauthority.social
2025-07-28T01:12:35Z
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@eriner last I heard they were trying to restrict them to 1 element and a lower powered one at that.Mine is ~20.
(DIR) Post #AwZng6ju08FzSiSVI8 by eriner@noauthority.social
2025-07-28T01:16:10Z
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@Richard this was a 1:1 replacement, 4500w two element electric tank water heater. There were lots of them, too. Even 5500w versions.
(DIR) Post #AwZnwGBqdCO5PGESK8 by Richard@noauthority.social
2025-07-28T01:19:05Z
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@eriner nice. Glad to hear it.
(DIR) Post #AwZpUVFNFxh9u8m1kO by billybon3s@noauthority.social
2025-07-28T01:36:29Z
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@eriner I have a cousin that uses an old hot water tank in his French fry oil filtration process to run it through his old Benz.Not sure on the specifics, but I know it uses an old shower head in the separation process, cleaning the oil for a fuel system.
(DIR) Post #AwZpXQY5BHCuCZv1XM by eriner@noauthority.social
2025-07-28T01:37:01Z
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For those who don't know what a "full port drain valve" is, it's a replacement for the often plastic factory piece of shit drain valve, but with a much larger inner diameter and a ball valve so it won't leak like many of the factory ones do after you use them.I had a hell of a time draining the tank when I replaced the heating elements about a year ago, and I'm sure it's going to be a bitch to drain it again.Hopefully this'll be the last time I have to suffer through this task.
(DIR) Post #AwZpfqKJDuLwT1UOXY by eriner@noauthority.social
2025-07-28T01:38:32Z
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@billybon3s Unfortunately I think this one is cracked, hence the replacement, but I might be able to make use of it for something. Dunno. I'll send my borescope down in it once I I've replaced it.
(DIR) Post #AwZqCIFExXnGJwakyW by eriner@noauthority.social
2025-07-28T01:44:24Z
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I post stuff like this because many people here are handy and I figure it might help someone else out in the future; plant seeds that may cause them to one day go "this thing sucks, but I remember seeing something about a bigger valve or something one time..."I'm once again thankful that I can do this stuff myself.Replacement tank was ~$700, call it $750 with the new fittings.IDK how much I'd get billed to have this done by someone else, but probably $1500 minimum.
(DIR) Post #AwZr3p7BToRPc5Lgi8 by SirJoe@noauthority.social
2025-07-28T01:54:05Z
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@eriner "I will replace the anode rod biannually" seems aggressive.
(DIR) Post #AwZrGcmkdFsT8dta64 by eriner@noauthority.social
2025-07-28T01:56:23Z
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@SirJoe not really. Though perhaps I should have said “I’ll check it bi-annually and replace as-needed based on a visual health assessment of the rod”.
(DIR) Post #AwZuihlc0IYCYkRaZk by SirJoe@noauthority.social
2025-07-28T02:35:05Z
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@eriner I had a 30 year experienced plumber tell me this past week not to bother checking or replacing the sacraficial anode. I've been wanting to check mine.
(DIR) Post #AwZv1BRiOdZHotwsfQ by eriner@noauthority.social
2025-07-28T02:38:25Z
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@SirJoe If you don't do it from the start, then it's not worth it.That thing gets so fused in there, it's ludicrous the amount of leverage you need to get it off. I tried to get the one off this unit a few years ago and stopped because I was concerned I was going to damage it.
(DIR) Post #AwZvxubAg7YCebNLP6 by nom@mk.spook.social
2025-07-28T02:40:37.940Z
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@eriner@noauthority.social Got a URL for the "full port drain valve?"
(DIR) Post #AwZvxvxtb7K2tN10Sm by eriner@noauthority.social
2025-07-28T02:49:01Z
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@nom Chyna, by Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/House-Mods-HMP012-Straight-Compliant/dp/B0DNNBZJZXOr make one out of Chyna, by Home Depot parts he shows. Caveat that he says "FIP", but it's "MIP".https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XWGoOvZiKNE
(DIR) Post #AwZwJC8meVAF8oFJQ0 by SirJoe@noauthority.social
2025-07-28T02:52:53Z
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@eriner I do flush the sediment out annually but have become concerned that dead waterheaters are starting to show up on bulk trash day around the neighborhood. Houses are around 15 years old here. That plumber said a change to rotten egg smelling water is the indicator that the anode has failed. No rotten eggs for me. He also said that the two he replaced over the 30 year career did not extend the life of the tanks. Current unit life is right around 15 years. Based on that you got 2 extra.
(DIR) Post #AwZwkBtPgLWyBtvfs0 by eriner@noauthority.social
2025-07-28T02:57:45Z
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@SirJoe My failing unit was NOT taken care of.We have no rotten egg smell (as long as the water is regularly used and doesn't sit for two weeks), but I am 100% certain the anode rod in this unit is a coat hanger, if it hasn't completely rusted through.Sediment never flushed. The sediment was built up clear to the lower heating element.I replaced the heating elements once, not sure if they had been replaced prior. I'll be recovering those from this machine.
(DIR) Post #AwZx7hzsU91IQAAQMq by eriner@noauthority.social
2025-07-28T03:02:00Z
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@SirJoe It is my non-plumber opinion that a well-maintained electric water heater's tank should last 20+ years. I have no experience with or opinion on Gas water heaters, but my intuition is that they wouldn't last as long.
(DIR) Post #AwZxl84JUAkYZf2Taq by mjdigspigs@poa.st
2025-07-28T03:09:06.620623Z
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@eriner @SirJoe I had my propane one for all of the 17 years I lived in my last house. I have no idea how old it was when I bought the house.
(DIR) Post #AwZz7Isk3vX4R6lQdU by SIrLongTheGood@noauthority.social
2025-07-28T03:24:20Z
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@eriner Yeah those factory drain valves suck. For folks that don't know, "full port" means that the valve opening is the same size as the pipe so it will not restrict the flow. A "ball" fully opens/close in a quarter turn.Watch out for "G" (BSSP) threads that are straight. China loves putting them on stuff.
(DIR) Post #Awa1JJ9d4jBgfFVyc4 by Max_Imum@noauthority.social
2025-07-28T03:48:55Z
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@eriner thanks, this is a good and useful upgrade for not a lot of money.
(DIR) Post #AwaQkmKxBG4pqU0WDw by DCR@noauthority.social
2025-07-28T08:34:00Z
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@eriner That guy is sexy =)