Post AwEVpkb91bu2q4varY by msdosfx@noauthority.social
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 (DIR) Post #AwEQUcRjddoFhkdBuy by eriner@noauthority.social
       2025-07-17T17:47:27Z
       
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       I don't own a table saw.I've put off buying one for a long time. I didn't want to buy junk, and as I spend so much time at a computer, features that ensure I keep all my fingers attached isn't "premium"; it's bare minimum safety equipment.I've wanted a sawstop ever since seeing the demo as a kid.Now that it's finally time to buy one, I think I'm going to get a cheaper (non-sawstop) contractor saw and an autofeeder instead. Cheaper, easier, and solves the same problem.
       
 (DIR) Post #AwEQpJdokaoJSl9SNM by black6@noauthority.social
       2025-07-17T17:51:11Z
       
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       @eriner Be ever wary of the table saw.
       
 (DIR) Post #AwERCDsoKEXiGT5TtI by eee@poa.st
       2025-07-17T17:55:18.648549Z
       
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       @eriner sup
       
 (DIR) Post #AwERsqPnSEl5vqq86i by nam@noauthority.social
       2025-07-17T18:03:01Z
       
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       @eriner I have the dewalt job site table saw, it does the job, but sweet Jesus is using it scary.
       
 (DIR) Post #AwEUXznDh0KUnXXue8 by msdosfx@noauthority.social
       2025-07-17T18:32:52Z
       
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       @eriner a track saw can do a lot. I have the cordless Makita and some off brand tracks that are Makita/Festool compatible.  I also have a jobsite Bosch, and a Shopfox cabinet saw, but I pretty much use the track saw for most things or use the sled saw at work if it requires jigs or something complicated. Autofeeder is a pain to set up every time you just want to rip something. I only use it when using the shaper.
       
 (DIR) Post #AwEVC6gpT9wvlugQT2 by scottdhansen@noauthority.social
       2025-07-17T18:40:07Z
       
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       @eriner 220 volt or standard?
       
 (DIR) Post #AwEVpkb91bu2q4varY by msdosfx@noauthority.social
       2025-07-17T18:47:18Z
       
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       @eriner Also, I have inadvertently tripped Saw Stops with moist lumber twice. There are some other versions out there now that don't destroy the blade and the brake every time you accidentally trip the brake, at a cost of $250 -$400 depending on your blade. Felder makes one, and I thought Bosch did too, but it looks like its no longer available.
       
 (DIR) Post #AwEWe2ygxnOqK1vQS8 by c00p@noauthority.social
       2025-07-17T18:56:23Z
       
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       @eriner I wish I had a table saw every time I use my skill saw..
       
 (DIR) Post #AwEYyfFiZKSWjEqcme by IceCubeSoup@noauthority.social
       2025-07-17T19:22:31Z
       
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       @black6 @eriner    I never enter any room which contains a table saw
       
 (DIR) Post #AwEcnU9LuKkUvRnMsC by Woodbutcher@noauthority.social
       2025-07-17T20:05:18Z
       
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       @eriner buy the sawstop. Go with the contractor version if you want to go a little cheaper.
       
 (DIR) Post #AwEdPhQyxtTB89GOki by sir_rob@noauthority.social
       2025-07-17T20:12:13Z
       
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       @eriner track saws are replacing table saws, sawstop is great, until you trip it and then have to replace the Sawstop Brake Cartridge any time it is tripped (1 Benjamin per pop).
       
 (DIR) Post #AwEq0CWU3PxJQR0aBM by Max_Imum@noauthority.social
       2025-07-17T22:33:17Z
       
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       We were always taught to use a push stick. Used a table saw a lot over the years and thankfully still have all my digits but my buddy has one fucked up finger from his accident. Those are very dangerous and worth the expense to stay protected. I need chainsaw bibs bad. Every time I use that thing I tell myself to just order some then I forget about it a few minutes later. @Woodbutcher @eriner
       
 (DIR) Post #AwEvw8dJAruDvZe8v2 by raintrees@noauthority.social
       2025-07-17T23:39:46Z
       
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       @c00p @eriner Lower the saw into the center of a 3/4" piece of plywood that is roughly the size of the table you want.Then bolt it to the wood, turn it upside down and support the plywood on something supportive, like bricks or saw horses.Voila, table saw.Clamp a 2x4 parallel to the blade at the desired distance for a fence.:)
       
 (DIR) Post #AwEyxKuzHe86BJB8nA by Woodbutcher@noauthority.social
       2025-07-18T00:13:36Z
       
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       @Max_Imum @eriner I don't have a sawstop. My table saw is a 1980's General (when they were actually made in Canada) . I have always respected it and if I ever felt uncomfortable doing something i  found another way to make a cut. I can still count to ten . Given the option starting out without the same experience I would buy a sawstop . Shit happens quickly with a table saw and kickback happens
       
 (DIR) Post #AwF0m9TBhxCPOiyD6u by eriner@noauthority.social
       2025-07-18T00:33:56Z
       
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       @Woodbutcher @Max_Imum Why would I want a sawstop over a normal table saw with an 1/8HP auto-feeder? FWIW, I don't mind adjusting the auto feeder; I'd prefer to stand at the side, parallel to the work going in anyway.
       
 (DIR) Post #AwF1vMpVVNMtOSMsM4 by Woodbutcher@noauthority.social
       2025-07-18T00:46:52Z
       
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       @eriner what is your intended use for the table saw? I cannot imagine using a feeder for anything I do with my tablesaw. I have used feeders on shapers . If you are breaking down sheet goods I suggest a track saw .
       
 (DIR) Post #AwF2TetaqJrvGmd9t2 by Woodbutcher@noauthority.social
       2025-07-18T00:53:04Z
       
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       This desk finally made it to its forever home...now her husband has desk envy and wants a similar desk
       
 (DIR) Post #AwF2sOw7JfMb0pbpnE by eriner@noauthority.social
       2025-07-18T00:57:32Z
       
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       @Woodbutcher Mostly for things I can't already do (conveniently) with my skillsaw, like cutting 1/8-1/4" strips for trim/veneer. I have a tracksaw, but it's a pain to take the skillsaw in and out of it, to the point that I usually eyeball it and do just fine. (I have the extra chromosome that allows me to both eyeball 90 degree angles with ease, and burdens me with noticing every 89 degree sign and shelf I see).I'm certainly not using it for cutting plywood/mdf sheets.
       
 (DIR) Post #AwF3SxrYwBjRlBuhvs by eriner@noauthority.social
       2025-07-18T01:04:09Z
       
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       @Woodbutcher ...and for anything where I have to make a lot of the same cut (i.e., slats).I was going to comment this in one of the other posts, but I may as well do it here:Skillsaws are great. But if you have to cut dozens and dozens of the same thing, the ease and consistency of a table saw can't be beat.
       
 (DIR) Post #AwF3qZ6MePrRul5gcS by Woodbutcher@noauthority.social
       2025-07-18T01:08:24Z
       
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       @eriner it just seems like it would be used once or twice then be set aside . Make zero clearance throst plate for table saw and use a long hold down push stick that holds your hands well clear of the blade.
       
 (DIR) Post #AwF4azzV0e1MdB1M7k by eriner@noauthority.social
       2025-07-18T01:16:48Z
       
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       @Woodbutcher Nah, I'll make use of the auto feeder on things other than the table saw. I'll rig it to a clampable base so that I can move it from machine to machine. IDK about my jointer, but I'm certain I'd wind up with less marring when using it on my router.
       
 (DIR) Post #AwINeTHL3WjawAc8sS by eriner@noauthority.social
       2025-07-19T15:34:27Z
       
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       Thought on it for a couple days. Having considered the contrary advice offered by @Woodbutcher, I'm sticking to my guns and going the cheap(er) route as opposed to a Sawstop.I'm looking to get a Delta 36-725T2, $769. Plus ~$15 for alignment magnets.To make it safe(r), I'll get a 1/8HP Grizzly powerfeeder (G4173) for $475.Total cost of $1259.For reference, the base model Sawstop contractor saw is $2000.This is $741 cheaper, 63% the cost of a Sawstop.Now I pray I don't get a lemon.
       
 (DIR) Post #AwIOAcqh0eDhsxU1BI by ThatCrazyDude@noauthority.social
       2025-07-19T15:40:16Z
       
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       @eriner @Woodbutcher the first thing you wanna upgrade is the clearance plate. The one on the saw looks like some sort of plastic nonsense, and those are just fuckin' annoying. Can't cut small stuff with those at all
       
 (DIR) Post #AwIOmyVevKMS4LvnXs by eriner@noauthority.social
       2025-07-19T15:47:12Z
       
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       @ThatCrazyDude @Woodbutcher Yeah I'll probably CNC a replacement out of MDF.Apparently I can also get 52" fence rails (as opposed to the ~30" rails that come with it), though they're currently sold out.
       
 (DIR) Post #AwIRWpD02JlsS5C61w by sir_rob@noauthority.social
       2025-07-19T16:17:54Z
       
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       @eriner @Woodbutcher 1st rule of table saw: don’t be an idiot, you’re using something that can kill you, PAY ATTENTION!
       
 (DIR) Post #AwIn21cA3lpqwUgL3Y by Max_Imum@noauthority.social
       2025-07-19T20:18:50Z
       
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       I think this is a good way to go. Just be careful. That you are even considering the sawstop shows you respect the tools and safety. You'll be fine. Just every time you use it remind yourself about the dangers of the equipment and never get comfortable. This is the same thing with a chainsaw or a gun. You have obviously used both of those without killing yourself. If one day money is no option then yes go for the stop but until then the auto-feed is a great solution IMO. @eriner @Woodbutcher
       
 (DIR) Post #AwIpXQ6lF8fNnF5oHo by weeniewawa@noauthority.social
       2025-07-19T20:46:56Z
       
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       @eriner table saws are perfectly safe as long as you do your part. The auto feeder will be a pain in the ass and get in the way and you will not use it, especially when cutting smaller stock and it is completely useless for cross cuts if you plan on using it for that at all, I use a compound miter saw for cross cuts most of the time. Push sticks and taking your time is the safest way to work with a table saw.
       
 (DIR) Post #AwIpwwchUQDBsQCehs by weeniewawa@noauthority.social
       2025-07-19T20:51:32Z
       
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       @eriner @Woodbutcher  Hopefully they use a Biesemeyer fence as 95% of the value of a table saw is the fence. It looks like one in this picture and Delta owns them.
       
 (DIR) Post #AwIr8zUyiyvWDwtoYq by eriner@noauthority.social
       2025-07-19T21:04:55Z
       
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       @weeniewawa @Woodbutcher the well-regarded fence is the reason I selected this saw despite the complaints about some motors being lemons.
       
 (DIR) Post #AwIvTS7mP5XOc73oo4 by weeniewawa@noauthority.social
       2025-07-19T21:53:26Z
       
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       @eriner @Woodbutcher I have an old Craftsman contractor saw I have hot rodded with a Biesemeyer fence and thin kerf blade and spent way more than buying a good saw, it has done the job but i bought it long before the internet or i would have researched more and probably bought a different saw but as little furniture building I do anymore, it works fine.
       
 (DIR) Post #AwVYTQJ3OKkv5GpWIS by eriner@noauthority.social
       2025-07-26T00:06:58Z
       
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       Change of plans, again.My dad is like me in that he uses stuff until it breaks.So as a favor to both of us, I'll take his table saw and he'll be getting an upgrade. He's an /actual/ woodworker and deserves something nice. At this stage, a nicer saw would be lost on me.Plus, figuring out how to "fix" the old saw is actually more up my alley than buying one that I never have issues with.