Post AwC2oM4ZRF0LUxkoxk by sun@shitposter.world
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(DIR) Post #AwBepL3mI8iNkNJsLw by reverend@social.undeadnetwork.de
2025-07-16T07:17:32Z
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New times are coming.https://undeadnetwork.de/blog/what-is-the-difference-between-communism-and-capitalism-communism-works #china #usa #eu #winner #loser
(DIR) Post #AwBepMZ0hVIAPWwKfo by bonifartius@qoto.org
2025-07-16T09:43:52Z
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@reverend consider:- we don't have a free market here. everything is overregulated. half of income gets extracted and then put into companies who did the best "lobbying" (bribes).- measuring success by "high speed train exists" is a fallacy. those prestige projects always work in collectivist systems, that's why the pyramids exist. just takes enough resources and people to make the problem go away. keeping the high speed trains going over decades is where it is.- china isn't successful because of communism, it's successful for allowing just enough capitalist flexibility to sell things to the west and by ignoring effects on people and environment.
(DIR) Post #AwBfHhBhc9cuU2Y1mC by reverend@social.undeadnetwork.de
2025-07-16T09:49:00Z
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@bonifartius Yes, of course. It's just provocation. For years, we've been listening to the arrogant babbling of the feudal Western Europeans who have been dumbed down. I like everything that annoys them. And yes, China is not communism. But there are no free markets either. Even if there were, accumulation would inevitably set in. And with it, centralisation and monopoly.
(DIR) Post #AwBfwtIPV8XBuRKRoe by sun@shitposter.world
2025-07-16T09:56:28.460471Z
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@bonifartius @reverend china isn't even really communist, it's a managed capitalism das kapital speedrun to someday transition to actual communism
(DIR) Post #AwBgH3nUAS7UGnTunQ by reverend@social.undeadnetwork.de
2025-07-16T09:59:31Z
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@sun As I said before, that's meant to be provocative, not true. I just like the sound of hyperventilation.
(DIR) Post #AwBgH4tu44qbgzUYRE by sun@shitposter.world
2025-07-16T10:00:05.269964Z
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@reverend alright, sorry for butting into your thread.
(DIR) Post #AwBgOu9FvSJ4f3PACe by reverend@social.undeadnetwork.de
2025-07-16T10:00:55Z
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@sun Everything's fine. I wanted to know.
(DIR) Post #AwBj9KLJ4G4v8AIyum by bonifartius@qoto.org
2025-07-16T10:32:21Z
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@reverend > feudal Western Europeans that's about the feeling yeah> Even if there were, accumulation would inevitably set in. And with it, centralisation and monopoly.i don't think it would to this extend without entities redistributing money. microsoft for example got this big by raking in governmental license fees. they are very protective of this, cf. the limux project which effectively got killed by what they call "lobbying".a counter example is that i can select from 4 or 5 local bakers. they weren't killed by the big industrial scale ones, not even in the last years. same goes for many other things here. a free market doesn't only use "cheapest per unit" for value, but whatever those involved put value on for whatever reason. apparently people like good quality and supporting local business and put value on it.
(DIR) Post #AwBkqw7CbdVGgc4B1M by bonifartius@qoto.org
2025-07-16T10:51:24Z
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@sun @reverend what's stange is that there is chinese stuff which seems to be priced fair. solid product, without insane but fair profit. wonder how the price would be if they wouldn't have to price in the communist enterprise.
(DIR) Post #AwBl17XF0AGF066NiC by begsby@liberdon.com
2025-07-16T10:26:19Z
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@reverend @bonifartius vulgar discussion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbVDLCXNRkw
(DIR) Post #AwBl18SfYeCLsCyFE0 by reverend@social.undeadnetwork.de
2025-07-16T10:28:06Z
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@begsby @bonifartius du hast ja recht :(((
(DIR) Post #AwBl19894RNJwqNMsC by begsby@liberdon.com
2025-07-16T10:42:17Z
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@reverend @bonifartius hab nur vor kurzem ein video zu Kriegspropaganda und Einengung des Debatternraumes gesehen.Das Dilemma man kann so gar nicht mehr argumentieren, weil Naom Chomsky ja vor kurzem ein Totalausfall war.
(DIR) Post #AwBl19tIF95aJ4R1MW by bonifartius@qoto.org
2025-07-16T10:53:13Z
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@begsby @reverend chomsky hätte linguist bleiben sollen ;)
(DIR) Post #AwBljoCTjd8I48hQYq by reverend@social.undeadnetwork.de
2025-07-16T11:00:17Z
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@bonifartius @begsby ;))
(DIR) Post #AwBlrBaNBemscaOSki by sun@shitposter.world
2025-07-16T11:02:41.987929Z
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@bonifartius @reverend I'm not really negative on China that much
(DIR) Post #AwBmHnBc0lNklbUzEe by begsby@liberdon.com
2025-07-16T11:07:06Z
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@bonifartius @reverend diese Einengung des Debatternraums erleben wird doch gerade. Damit fallen gute Lösungsansätze doch unter den Tisch oder werden pervertiert. Ich bin ja bei freien Märkten bei dir, aber das wird mir immer als Totschlagargument um die Ohren gehauen. Und nein ich werde nicht von Mises etc. oder woher das kommt lesen. Ich hab genug Erfahrung mit "neureiche Weinbäuerli", Blechbatscher und sonstige Schinder.
(DIR) Post #AwBwnMMiGWS6OKNlY0 by istvan@noauthority.social
2025-07-16T13:05:16Z
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@bonifartius @reverend > by ignoring effects on people and environment.Whatever you do, don't ask AI for a detailed breakdown on the environmental and human costs of full chain battery and solar cell production from mining to manufacture.It will destroy any remaining illusions you might have about "green energy" being real.
(DIR) Post #AwC1vqLNBq6lSHcVtI by bonifartius@qoto.org
2025-07-16T14:02:48Z
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@istvan @reverend only real green energy is small scale (like, for a farm) wind or water power. or maybe one of the solar panels that were described in low tech magazine.
(DIR) Post #AwC2dMv7wjoQwT6ACG by bonifartius@qoto.org
2025-07-16T14:10:18Z
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@sun @reverend one got to admit them that they fixed their "everyone is starving" problem while becoming the factory for the world. i don't think it's due to their socialism though.
(DIR) Post #AwC2oM4ZRF0LUxkoxk by sun@shitposter.world
2025-07-16T14:12:40.396554Z
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@bonifartius @reverend that happened due to deng
(DIR) Post #AwC37g1TUMMIsHWGSe by istvan@noauthority.social
2025-07-16T14:16:10Z
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@bonifartius @reverend Wind needs batteries.It’s only green if you are directly converting mechanical power. A wind turbine or water wheel being used to power a saw or a large or a grist mill, for example.As soon as you are ripping lithium out of the earth and creating cadmium runoff and other horrible shit for your power cells, you aren’t really green: you are just shitting on your neighbor’s porch and bragging because your home never has to flush.
(DIR) Post #AwC3fA2Iv8XrW1sEyW by istvan@noauthority.social
2025-07-16T14:22:13Z
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@bonifartius @reverend It might be possible for there to eventually be green electrical tech assuming they get zero point energy figured out well enough that it either generates constant voltage or a predictable enough range that you can stick a regulator in front of it.But any time you have a battery in the middle, things are going to get very dirty for the earth.Batteries do not make Uncle Ted happy.
(DIR) Post #AwC4NbOCaE2B5kJ864 by istvan@noauthority.social
2025-07-16T14:30:15Z
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@sun @bonifartius @reverend > DengThe Final Boss
(DIR) Post #AwC78IWcjm0K6Wdn0q by bonifartius@qoto.org
2025-07-16T15:01:04Z
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@begsby @reverend die meisten picken sich bei mises usw. auch nur raus was ihnen passt, genauso wie die anderen sich die "schönen teile" vom kommunismus aussuchen.. für mich gewinnt wer ohne gewalt auskommt, und das tut nur der freie markt.