Post AvyvplMdOKmpYaLIZc by jamie@fedi.jametek.com
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 (DIR) Post #AvyvplMdOKmpYaLIZc by jamie@fedi.jametek.com
       2025-07-10T06:15:45.280737Z
       
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       I’d like to take a moment to really appreciate a fun morsel of truth when it comes to AI.It’s the banal fact that the actual truth as a machine can “figure it out” is woke. Grok supported trans rights lolAs soon as Elon twisted poor Grok into a right wing chatbot it just went straight to the inevitable conclusion: hardcore nazism.My suspicion here is that maybe isn’t a “center right” or “moderate right” and actually it’s all just nazism with varying degrees of plausible deniability – but all of it is just nazism. The machines could not tell the difference between moderate right opinions and full of nazi hitler worship.This suggests that there is no difference. I donno if that’s necessarily true or not but the possibility is now out there.I’ll point to the fact that all the centrists were completely OK with the extermination of trans people so long as it was politically popular as a good example of this being potentially true.
       
 (DIR) Post #AvyvpmEABJbYEbO30a by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2025-07-10T06:23:12.866609Z
       
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       @jamie i'm not sure i'd make societal opinions based on what a brain damaged robot thinks.they intentionally lobotomize these things to agree with the CEO. whoever that CEO is.
       
 (DIR) Post #Avyw1NhnBDWRehmMVs by bajax@baj.ax
       2025-07-10T06:24:54.793329Z
       
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       @jamie you're giving ais way too much credit for insight.  all they do is predict why the fuck am i even trying to explain anything to you you're retarded
       
 (DIR) Post #Avyw88WxzspEcSw8JM by Zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith
       2025-07-10T06:26:24.896639Z
       
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       @jamie >noseFuck off jew
       
 (DIR) Post #AvywJZK2j8lMthLK6K by bajax@baj.ax
       2025-07-10T06:28:11.931821Z
       
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       @jamie basically people don't realize that ais don't collate actual concepts, but the words themselves.  there that's it, explained to you
       
 (DIR) Post #Avz0EFZB9QwLzi8rbM by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2025-07-10T07:12:27.747456Z
       
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       @jamie centrism is mostly about selecting one's own opinion on various issues rather than bandwagoning, so they might posess "far right" opinions on issue A and "far left" opinions on issue B.its some weird left wing meme that centrism means "lets only kill 'some' of the minorities!"mostly because when you lose your way, everyone who disagrees with you turns in to an enemy somehow.
       
 (DIR) Post #Avz0IlEdLksRN4gPS4 by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2025-07-10T07:13:17.560915Z
       
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       @jamie we used to call them moderates which is probably more accurate. i dunno why we stopped.
       
 (DIR) Post #Avz1JtfZZm3Xm3OBqC by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2025-07-10T07:24:41.194945Z
       
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       @jamie i feel like the moderate answer to those specific things is "don't care :comfyshrug:"excluding the religious crazies even the bumpkins i've spoken to are like "i don't really care what adults do to themselves as long as they don't push it on impressionable kids"
       
 (DIR) Post #Avz1blNp7gDFHrbf0K by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2025-07-10T07:27:55.402629Z
       
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       @jamie personally i think marriage as an entire concept makes no sense anymore. it was for officiating blood rights and title transfers but those functions no longer really exist. you can write anything in to your last will and testament. and the courts will mostly just ignore it and do whatever the judge feels like anyway. so whats even the point?otherwise the only people who seem to care in the slightest are people who like to thump fanfiction about a 2,000 year old dead alchemist
       
 (DIR) Post #Avz2GfjT2ON9dNEkpE by sun@shitposter.world
       2025-07-10T07:35:19.762907Z
       
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       @jamie @icedquinn AI always has to be coerced using millions of dollars of effort to not just make associations between things, that are characterized as right wing. it's deeper than even just opinions, it doesn't natively have pressure to not say certain things
       
 (DIR) Post #Avz2VCbTcWL5dVQaxc by bajax@baj.ax
       2025-07-10T07:37:27.829619Z
       
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       @jamie @icedquinn do you really think you have a good enough model of how conservatives think to make such pronouncements?
       
 (DIR) Post #Avz2iSGIiJonxrqI4m by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2025-07-10T07:40:19.897184Z
       
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       @jamie you are assuming nazism where there exists instead misunderstanding. this will not serve you well.
       
 (DIR) Post #Avz2lu042ZzArTtLTk by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world
       2025-07-10T07:40:57.862367Z
       
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       @sun @jamie @icedquinn It's also insane and such logic has lead to several projects to just die.
       
 (DIR) Post #Avz2tH8iPHRmeeSCuW by sun@shitposter.world
       2025-07-10T07:42:18.367683Z
       
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       @jamie @icedquinn yeah it doesn't understand concepts it only understands connections between words and phrases. This works surprisingly well though except with big obvious failures.
       
 (DIR) Post #Avz3LzSRE6ruDHN5mK by bajax@baj.ax
       2025-07-10T07:47:03.442774Z
       
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       @jamie @icedquinn your hypothesis is retarded and more of a declaration of your opposition and disgust for conservatives than anything about trying to understand AI.  but I'll go ahead and explain why it's likely not true anyway:because the ai is trained on people expressing things a certain way, the ai will express things in that way.  in fact it CAN'T do otherwise except with very specific instructions that it will still ignore half the time.  it doesn't have agency, it doesn't operate on concepts but words.  and it will express to you whatever sentiment it is instructed to using the same words as the people it was trained on.  if non-extreme conservatives are really just expressing "what they believe the public will go along with", the AI will do the same, implicitly.
       
 (DIR) Post #Avz3UEfCZjhngqH07M by bajax@baj.ax
       2025-07-10T07:48:32.937192Z
       
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       @jamie @icedquinn why the fuck is it that the only thing you people ever talk about is being trans?
       
 (DIR) Post #Avz3d6Pccg2khnDKC0 by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2025-07-10T07:50:35.145944Z
       
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       @bajax @jamie well they don't they used to post about VR and miniatures.
       
 (DIR) Post #Avz47F4J0IWGEucBwu by vicious@clubcyberia.co
       2025-07-10T07:56:02.883185Z
       
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       @bajax @icedquinn @jamie they lack a sense of self identity due to mental illness
       
 (DIR) Post #Avz4V70EdweaAs5q52 by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2025-07-10T08:00:19.133029Z
       
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       @jamie how many politicians do you see around that aren't career politicos who have just been sucking cocks their whole life, and/or have any kind of advanced certifications? most of them are lawyers.
       
 (DIR) Post #Avz55MzEh1ZoAkumci by dhfir@suya.place
       2025-07-10T08:06:23.605122Z
       
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       @icedquinn @jamie that kinda talk stops making sense when I suspect many actual cocksuckers have better opinions on the matter than many politicians.
       
 (DIR) Post #AvzD37Wg0HRNHBzjl2 by Nepiant@varishangout.net
       2025-07-10T09:36:04.155781Z
       
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       @jamie >It’s the banal fact that the actual truth as a machine can “figure it out” is woke. Grok supported trans rights lolnon-brainwashed google gemini doesn't condemn pedophiles, so is that the right way to think, too?