Post AvrmLhODLRroqfx3a4 by selfsigned_ash@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #Avrl6c9mPzisJzRY5g by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-06T19:19:58Z
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We got a little bit of an issue.. Currently the main server for mstdn.social has just under 48GB disk space left and we cannot upgrade any further since we're at the highest tierSo the only solution would be a dedicated server with a lot more space to grow, within exactly 14 days bills will arrive for all our current servers but I also gotta rent and setup a new server in the meanwhileBesides that me and my gf are alsomoving soon maybe so i cannot spend all our money on server bills 😩[1/2]
(DIR) Post #Avrl7Q70gZDTFsX2iO by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-06T19:20:06Z
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[2/2]Currently I am looking with Hetzner for a dedicated server that fits out infrastructure, if you have a better tip, please let me know! Time is getting limitedIf you can, please think about helping us out this month, hopefully we can slash costs by a massive percentage and have room to gtow for the future ❤️ https://paypal.me/stuxOShttps://patreon.com/mstdn https://ko-fi.com/mstdnhttps://bunq.me/stuxhosthttps://stux.me/donatehttps://liberapay.com/mstdnI'm doing the best I can ❤️
(DIR) Post #AvrlRL5H5adxS8DayG by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-06T19:23:36Z
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**Is there someone who currently has a dedicated server via #Hetzner? I have tried using volumes for the database but unfort the read/write speed was too low so Mastodon did not function rightOur current database size is always 1TB
(DIR) Post #AvrlnogfhpFndVQd9s by preya@mastodon.social
2025-07-06T19:27:31Z
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@stux Give netcup a try: https://www.netcup.com/en/server/root-serverI can give you a referral which will get you one month for free.
(DIR) Post #Avrm077H0rIeGfjdPk by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-06T19:29:34Z
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@leonieke I am bit worried about that disks to get, don't wanna have the same issue again
(DIR) Post #AvrmBkQhBgF1NhMpHs by aafkepostma@mastodon.social
2025-07-06T19:31:11Z
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@stux sterkte met de verhuizing!
(DIR) Post #AvrmBsHlyjrDkLFoUS by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-06T19:31:15Z
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@preya These are scary cheapI am not sure 🤔 Gotta have something super reliable
(DIR) Post #AvrmFu3ZKv2cOgX03k by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-06T19:32:46Z
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@leonieke More within Hetzner's dedicated aragements :blobcatgiggle:
(DIR) Post #AvrmLhODLRroqfx3a4 by selfsigned_ash@mastodon.social
2025-07-06T19:33:47Z
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@stux I have a storage box from Hetzner, my read/write isn't terrible, but more suited for backups/storing data than running high-demand applications. Maybe netcup or OVH or some other provider will have faster storage? I also have a VPS with netcup, read/write speed there is very good.
(DIR) Post #AvrmLnErb7x6zPcfq4 by StOnSoftware@mastodon.social
2025-07-06T19:33:49Z
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@stux a lot of people on ‘reclaim the stack’ do
(DIR) Post #AvrmVpo8tvknqwudBQ by paulinevanrotterdam_fossgov@social.linux.pizza
2025-07-06T19:34:15Z
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@stux Hi,It might help you to look into moving towards object storage. Most blobs are saved in the postgres database, which is quite expensive and doesn't scale well.With object storage you don't have this issue anymore. Here are some how to's. Good luck.https://thomas-leister.de/en/mastodon-s3-media-storage/https://stanislas.blog/2018/05/moving-mastodon-media-files-to-wasabi-object-storage/
(DIR) Post #AvrmVqwKgxtpMdkgaW by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-06T19:35:38Z
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@paulinevanrotterdam_fossgov We already use Wasabi for media 😉 But i dont think this will work with postgres db
(DIR) Post #AvrmeZFpocMF7V1sxM by paulinevanrotterdam_fossgov@social.linux.pizza
2025-07-06T19:37:17Z
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@stux No it won't, unfortunately.
(DIR) Post #Avrn5Zd6WndI6Qn6dU by thehole@dasforum.org
2025-07-06T19:42:08Z
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@stux @jonathanmh are you able to help?
(DIR) Post #AvrnAaySxMVjikB3bs by jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net
2025-07-06T19:40:56Z
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@stux Maybe someone from @hetzner is listening and able to help?
(DIR) Post #AvrnAcl4K8yzFlvO0O by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-06T19:43:03Z
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@jwildeboer @hetzner Woah. Hetzner on Mastodon! :clapping:
(DIR) Post #AvrnlsIDWsSw9EBxk8 by atarifrosch@mastodon.de
2025-07-06T19:49:46Z
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@stux I have, but not such a big database.
(DIR) Post #Avro2jnYMhS6j1tFAW by jonathanmh@streamers.social
2025-07-06T19:51:16Z
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@thehole @stux I'm currently running this instance on Hetzner and they have object storage and mountable volumes. Since we have a tiny server, storage is also usually the bottleneck for us. They're reliable (for me) and have everything but disk capacity monitoring compared to Digital Ocean.
(DIR) Post #Avro2ktcHdte87jbG4 by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-06T19:52:45Z
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@jonathanmh @thehole Ah yes 😉 For media we use Wasabi since it would not be doalble otherwise, we're getting close to 45-50TB now..I tried volumes for the database but the read/write was way to low unfort
(DIR) Post #AvroPMVJ8fUn8j8z0y by bjn@mstdn.social
2025-07-06T19:56:55Z
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@stux Done. Thanks for running the service. Very much appreciated.
(DIR) Post #AvroZLGUbGRaC1yOMS by preya@mastodon.social
2025-07-06T19:58:42Z
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@stux They're very reliable. Been using them for many years. No problems whatsoever.
(DIR) Post #Avrp7RGEoWLGdQ72Se by tertia@mstdn.social
2025-07-06T20:04:56Z
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@stux done ✅
(DIR) Post #AvrpNof9ZeMpqcZliK by xuxxux@social.tchncs.de
2025-07-06T20:07:53Z
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@stux I have a dedicated server („Serverbörse“) that has 64GB ECC RAM and two SSDs (each 1TB). I pay 40€/month. That is more than enough for my needs. The disks are direct attachment (nvme), so speed is not an issue
(DIR) Post #AvrpSeXOe8PvtRFoH2 by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-06T20:08:38Z
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@xuxxux Awesome! I am currently looking that indeed"2x 3.84 TB NVMe SSD Datacenter Edition (Gen 4)"These are actual 3.84TB single drives?
(DIR) Post #Avrpq0B8Lsz9fhyTbc by teotwaki@mastodon.online
2025-07-06T20:12:55Z
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@stux What about Kimsufi and Soyoustart? Have you considered scaling the number of instances instead of the size of them?A few thoughts:- put the web servers separately on multiple CPU/RAM optimised instances. If there’s a redis for cache it can live there as well.- what is the read/write load on the DB? Would it make sense to spin up a couple reader instances and keep a single writer? Is that supported by mastodon?- tl;dr: where is the load coming from? Web or DB? Read or write?
(DIR) Post #AvrptWAHsrq9kDFsYK by xuxxux@social.tchncs.de
2025-07-06T20:13:37Z
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@stux I would say so (at least that’s what I got)
(DIR) Post #AvrpvzbXOpY1d2BIlk by xuxxux@social.tchncs.de
2025-07-06T20:12:59Z
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@stux not affiliated or anything, just to save you a google
(DIR) Post #Avrpw0ZnmlkmdwNQhc by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-06T20:14:01Z
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@xuxxux We need a little bigger 😉
(DIR) Post #AvrqDq4Va3t5HAF3Tc by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-06T20:17:18Z
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Okay so.. within the upcoming days I'm gonna rent and setup a dedicated server for mstdn.socialI will announce when exactly since there will be downtime, also I'll do this at night(for me) since that's often the most quiet moment on our instanceStill have nightmares from the last time I moved this server 😆 But at least I know what not to do!
(DIR) Post #AvrqNEziHvSbB7TxRY by ErikUden@mastodon.de
2025-07-06T20:18:57Z
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@stux holy cow. I'm sending all my wishes of luck to you. My heart sank when importing the troet.cafe db and it failed...
(DIR) Post #AvrqUtHqsbc0Adc8WW by darkling@mstdn.social
2025-07-06T20:20:22Z
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@stux You know what went wrong _last time_, at least. :blobcatwink: Seriously, good luck with the move.
(DIR) Post #AvrqVHMzL9ysrWCZrU by gmarcosanti@mastodon.uno
2025-07-06T20:20:25Z
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@stux just remember to turn it off and back on again and everything will be all right.
(DIR) Post #AvrqdpsWvC80Cp2Fbk by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-06T20:21:57Z
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@ErikUden Ohh that is really heartbreakingI remember the sleepless nights.. 3 freaking days
(DIR) Post #AvrraipwkIQDS4uEy0 by dentaku@fnordon.de
2025-07-06T20:32:14Z
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@stux I use Hetzner Volumes for the database on Hetzner VMs. It's fast enough for *my* use case, but Fnordon is much smaller than mstdn of course.
(DIR) Post #Avru6pr0OLMSOEqFto by houtig@mastodon.nl
2025-07-06T21:00:50Z
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@stux just curious; what kind of hardware in Mastadon running on/needs?
(DIR) Post #AvruqsLrRBq7SPECEC by jbouter@mstdn.social
2025-07-06T21:09:07Z
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@stux If you want to reduce some of the nightmares and talk your steps through, let me know. I'm a Linux/Cloud engineer by trade.
(DIR) Post #AvrwXqgRcBFCgquWqe by FallsMom@mastodon.coffee
2025-07-06T21:28:04Z
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@stux Thanks for keeping the small but mighty mastodon coffee!
(DIR) Post #AvryO8E5jiwS6u8wRE by troy@opencoaster.net
2025-07-06T21:48:41Z
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@stux I use OVH for my instance, ~100usd/month for a bare metal server, way more capacity than needed. I hear Hetzner can be problematic sometimes. Either way I’d say bare metal is definitely the way to go.
(DIR) Post #AvsL0UKOD3lseXmfNw by pleaseclap@techhub.social
2025-07-07T02:02:09Z
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@stux @jonathanmh @thehole What ifHear me outWhat if you delete old stuff
(DIR) Post #AvsZejLTC2e8AcN9Um by falkheiland@fosstodon.org
2025-07-07T04:46:20Z
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@stux pinging @hetzner
(DIR) Post #AvsZpPHo73478xkZhA by bubi352@mstdn.social
2025-07-07T04:48:21Z
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@stux @hetzner maybe you can help?
(DIR) Post #AvtGkAswWYH73os6Eq by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-07T12:49:08Z
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@lax We currently dont have a way for that yet.. 🤔 Only ALL or nothing but maybe we can get this into the system
(DIR) Post #AvtGmFwcgUrtKaaMNs by toxy@mastodon.acc.sunet.se
2025-07-07T12:49:32Z
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@stux I think @jerry does and his instance is pretty beefy.
(DIR) Post #AvtHBo0dAbG8DidvXs by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-07T12:54:10Z
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@alwynispat We do! 😉 On remote storage, but this is database
(DIR) Post #AvtHNUw5uRPeXb62d6 by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-07T12:56:16Z
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**the reason we are almost out of disk space is NOT because of media!All our media gets stored remotely and is basically unlimited mess with spaceThe main reason is because our database has grown to a huge size and we cannot store that remote like mediaI tried volumes but those are not fast enough
(DIR) Post #AvtHzCb0XtkCfFDDMG by gparenti@mstdn.social
2025-07-07T13:03:06Z
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@stux Thanks for all you do!
(DIR) Post #AvtIuvbnrTxYm86szI by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-07T13:13:30Z
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@admin @lax We can clean remote media these days, even automatically but the database does not get "cleaned" that wayThe speed in which it grows only goes up and up and even if people stop using their accounts, the data is still here and needs to be hosted and paid for. every month
(DIR) Post #AvtJJLf0ea7IWVFpBI by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-07T13:17:51Z
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@esk We do the same 😉 but the prob is we cannot go higher in SSD volume, we're at the max atm
(DIR) Post #AvtK2RWrgGw5kuwnfU by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-07T13:26:03Z
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@esk Only via dedicated I believe! Looking into that now :blobcathearts:
(DIR) Post #AvtLq2TvBGjKVPmeB6 by Jain@blob.cat
2025-07-07T13:46:20.227030Z
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@stux I dont have a dedicated one but let me tell you about something:Having the whole DB on the volume can lead to different issues like latency and not only speed.What you could try is to move only the big tables to volumes but having all small tables, index and cache locally. That could maybe fix the space issue while latency and speed dont matter that much that way
(DIR) Post #AvtQ9TMRrptPBooJ3A by sraars@hippodon.com
2025-07-07T14:34:35Z
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@stux @esk OHV can have some good deals on older equipment. I have an older Intel Xeon-D 1540, 32GB of ram and 4x2TB for $23/m.
(DIR) Post #Avti9eArSkprtuciH2 by AngelaScholder@mastodon.energy
2025-07-07T17:55:56Z
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@stux Good luck!Hope it goes smootly.Only experience with servers with TransIP in The Netherlands, and Strato in Germany.The first very good, but probably some more cost.The latter I've been for shared hosting for over 10 years, but current packages are not as complete as the old packages, though mostly it's a give and take.But, based on stories with Hetzner they are not on my option list for anything.
(DIR) Post #Avub7lXEcSHFd7CirA by audioflyer79@mstdn.social
2025-07-08T04:12:11Z
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@stux I know you’ve got enough on your plate, but if there was a way for you to show your costs and how much is already paid for, I think that would encourage people to chip in. I just sent 5€ but I don’t know if that even makes a dent or if you have already gotten plenty. Either way, happy to help and thanks for all you do!
(DIR) Post #Avvah9ogQaA0HDdbCC by xilebo@norden.social
2025-07-08T15:42:08Z
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@stuxWhile Hetzner is a better hosting provider in general, netcup has a very interesting option: you can rent additional dynamic network storage. It is easily accesible from servers hosted at netcup. You get a fixed price up to a certain amount of storage and if you exceed that storage you just pay a few cents per additional GB. As far as I can tell, there is no upper limit.I haven't worked with netcup for over a year though, so I'm not sure, if anything has changed in the meantime...
(DIR) Post #AvxdTnO7C3gx87S0JM by aistoff@mastodon.world
2025-07-09T15:22:46Z
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@stux Easiest way to migrate server to a new hardware - dd if=/dev/sda of=/whatever; it’s much easier to move whole file system, than setting up a new server from scratch.And growfs after ;)
(DIR) Post #AvzjKBNW8BxagDtG9w by mookie@racingbunny.com
2025-07-10T15:37:39Z
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@stux I maybe late, but perhaps @lenzgr can help out?