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(DIR) Post #Avp5USaf3LCFD7mj9E by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-05T12:24:14Z
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Personally I always had issues with the concept of a "country" and "borders"Like who are you to tell me where I can and cannot go on this planet..Everyone should be free to travel where ever they want on this planetJust because a huuman claimed land centuries ago decides how we live, it's pretty messed up if you ask me
(DIR) Post #Avp5sWiNMzt6x6rxJY by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-05T12:28:33Z
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For me there is no "holy land" or whatever you wanna call it on this lone specI do not do religion so that won't work on myJust because some other human believes some land is "holy" does not mean I cannot walk on itPeople and their "properties", yikes...
(DIR) Post #Avp67EuHrTJI49SLUu by grootinside@troet.cafe
2025-07-05T12:31:11Z
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@stux Agree đŻ It's rediciolous and stupid as flags and this Eddie Izzard-clip is funny:https://youtu.be/UTduy7Qkvk8?feature=sharedđ
(DIR) Post #Avp6QJHXoqEn8ZQbqq by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-05T12:34:41Z
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@martinvermeer You can say that again!
(DIR) Post #Avp6cUtaSwHAdC29T6 by elduvelle@neuromatch.social
2025-07-05T12:36:50Z
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@stux I generally think this as well. But then I also think about the large variety of human societies that we have today, and how I would rather live in some (say, France) rather than others (say, the US, or those with no women's rights). If everyone could live everywhere without having to accept the laws of each country because there was no concept of country - wouldn't it end up being about "might makes right"?Or maybe we can have no borders, no countries, and still somehow all agree to live in harmony, between each other and also between humans and nature? đ€
(DIR) Post #Avp6m0sav438Qy6gpk by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-05T12:38:34Z
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@elduvelle More like an United Nations đ We need a government but not in the current forms, more generalPerhaps current countries first as provinces But at least no single rulers like kings, queens, presidents or dictators
(DIR) Post #Avp6zqRIX61W6lw0PI by H4Heights@mstdn.social
2025-07-05T12:41:04Z
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@stux Careful now there Ted... the knitted kippah brigade will descend like harpies screaming âBlood libel!!â
(DIR) Post #Avp7n4ZIn1s47P9Ubg by ranx@mastodon.social
2025-07-05T12:49:56Z
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@stux with everyone free to go anywhere on this planet there would be total anarchy. If you have issues with the concept of country or border you would have issues also with the law that regulate the society enclosed inside those borders.
(DIR) Post #Avp7qtoOixldur2OXY by toriver@mas.to
2025-07-05T12:50:40Z
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@stux Or as Donald Trump said about the Canada-US border back when he wanted to annex it: «random lines on a map»
(DIR) Post #Avp8CW7BVf02nA8JrU by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-05T12:54:37Z
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@toriver Away with the lines! No more US or Canada and while we're at it, also dump Trump since no no
(DIR) Post #Avp8XcbCb4CYz2ElFI by grymt@social.trom.tf
2025-07-05T12:40:35Z
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The opposite. If the mighty can't lock out people, their might shrinks a lot, and it will be easier to set rights in stone, despite what the mighty want.
(DIR) Post #Avp8XdgCZxnMKpaGg4 by elduvelle@neuromatch.social
2025-07-05T12:57:25Z
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@grymt @stux I guess this assumes that a lot more humans are nice than bad. I would like to believe this, and I think this is how humanity has survived originally - by helping each other, including the weakest members - but I am not fully convinced it is the case. Or rather, even if there's more nice people overall, they seem to very easily follow dictators, strong-looking leaders that shout loudly but are just really selfish. How do we avoid that from happening in our utopic, border-free world?
(DIR) Post #Avp8Xf5lKPpqiOYC9o by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-05T12:58:16Z
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@elduvelle @grymt Hm.. all these replies are very interesting tough!
(DIR) Post #Avp8aaHNg5fyeqNWtc by ranx@mastodon.social
2025-07-05T12:57:57Z
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@krans @stux because for thousands of years there was no social welfare
(DIR) Post #Avp8abFe41sjfkZepU by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-05T12:58:57Z
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@ranx @krans But wasn't there even more anarachy? Nowadays we "keep each other in check" with modern media to record etc
(DIR) Post #Avp9ckaOQeXf9lrsoa by ranx@mastodon.social
2025-07-05T13:10:33Z
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@stux @krans it depends on the "country" here the rule of law is millenary https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_law
(DIR) Post #Avp9xoOrRZJt4CW79s by BradRubenstein@infosec.exchange
2025-07-05T13:14:21Z
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@stux This was exactly the feeling of the Mongols in the 12th and 13th C, perhaps you can use their resulting approach as a model going forward.
(DIR) Post #AvpA0X48Lg9mAr7RoW by BradRubenstein@infosec.exchange
2025-07-05T13:14:52Z
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@stux Like who are you to tell me where I can and cannot go on this planet..This was exactly the feeling of the Mongols in the 12th and 13th C, perhaps you can use their resulting approach as a model going forward.
(DIR) Post #AvpA8NU9qrkKmJ25qq by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-05T13:16:17Z
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@BradRubenstein Difference is.. I don't have to own every single piece of land I come across :blobcatgiggle: We can also enjoy stuff without having to "own" it all I guess
(DIR) Post #AvpAFrGNXMQP9w9dnE by BradRubenstein@infosec.exchange
2025-07-05T13:17:38Z
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@stux Too soon to tell.
(DIR) Post #AvpAJG1nuz8gppxTs0 by Chapz@mastodon.online
2025-07-05T13:18:15Z
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@stux A country is just a garden around your house, but bigger. You probably wouldn't wanna let bad people enter and stay in your garden just like that...
(DIR) Post #AvpAKacUqNDEzNkwRk by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-05T13:18:30Z
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@BradRubenstein Tihi :blobcatgiggle: Hmm.. otherwise it won't be any different from all those before in history
(DIR) Post #AvpALhzEwJP67tvZya by UkeleleEric@mstdn.social
2025-07-05T13:18:41Z
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@stux this is what many indigenous peoples always found difficult to believe, that, just by claiming a place where you happen to be, you reduce the rights of anyone who steps there in future.
(DIR) Post #AvpANsgo7NsFtpLGUK by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-05T13:19:05Z
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@Chapz What is "bad people"? :blobcatgiggle: Soneone who's trying to flee war and looking for a better home or? The line is very thin
(DIR) Post #AvpAbXlihK4n4L9eEq by BradRubenstein@infosec.exchange
2025-07-05T13:21:33Z
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@stux
(DIR) Post #AvpB5EMXPip5ZMX25A by Chapz@mastodon.online
2025-07-05T13:26:52Z
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@stux Bad people is subjective. It could be a murderer or simply someone I don't trust. But my point is I don't think anyone who wants no boders would also keep their door wide open at night for anyone who might want to enter. Otherwise it would be just double standards. Borders exist for people inside to feel safe. Just like in medieval times when people for whatever reason preferred to live behind big stone walls. Safety comes before freedom.
(DIR) Post #AvpBNh2bWiDVj70mTg by gimulnautti@mastodon.green
2025-07-05T13:30:10Z
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@stux Borders are good in a way though, in that they Russia out! I love the border right there, 300km to the east!
(DIR) Post #AvpBWWpQrjICex401o by kofanchen@g0v.social
2025-07-05T13:31:43Z
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@stux countries and borders are the social way Homo Sapiens resolve the territory dispute that inevitably came as other social animals do too. take lions, chimpanzee, rabbit or deers all have their roar, fight and sneer. As a migrant myself in the UK I am actually quite grateful and surprised that the level of discrimination and aggression toward us has been kept at such a low level for so long.
(DIR) Post #AvpBhLUjLSQgh3XRQ0 by zotnobot@mastodon.social
2025-07-05T13:33:44Z
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@stux As arbitrary as borders and the concept of land, is the fact that nobody chose to be born where they were born. So just randomness decides whether you're born in a rich country under the rule of law, or in a war zone.
(DIR) Post #AvpBmzgtKA7Yo7v5xw by xs4me2@mastodon.social
2025-07-05T13:34:45Z
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@stux True indeed⊠it is about power, control and resourcesâŠ
(DIR) Post #AvpETryK69TdEDe6WO by danielsreichenbach@mastodon.world
2025-07-05T14:04:53Z
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@stux countries are like Pokemon. They are all fantasy, and someone will always tell you theirs is better lacking any proof. Now add religion and money, and we got the holy Trinity of bullshit covered đ
(DIR) Post #AvpFrsZDdZAfyhurIW by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-05T14:20:26Z
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@danielsreichenbach đ and some people really wanna catch 'em all unfort :pokeball:
(DIR) Post #AvpFt9LoikOKK1FlsO by Huntn00@mastodon.world
2025-07-05T14:20:44Z
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@stux Itâs all based on the concept of group security. Just saying.
(DIR) Post #AvpHFgKGtuGWuvq2bI by chrismcmillan0@mastodon.social
2025-07-05T14:35:58Z
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@stux I completely agree, the whole concept doesn't make sense to me!
(DIR) Post #AvpHZbKJCL6vCgM0cS by voxofgod@jorts.horse
2025-07-05T14:39:20Z
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@stux â«the Westphalian nation state system was the project 2025 of its timeA blueprint for greater control of the poorsIt worked so well that a couple centuries later frontiers became borders became do you have a right to be here...it's a new phenomenon And they keep pressing their luck.Gaza is being allowed by the nation states, because it is a blueprint for what's next for the oligarch's country club of the world
(DIR) Post #AvpHuxArAGFP2m79hg by canleaf@mastodon.social
2025-07-05T14:43:25Z
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@stux I do not also agree with âelectronic travel authorizationsâ, which costs money and put in an extra bureaucracy. I do not agree with investment visa, because millionaires wonât put in money into the common good for the people, they enrich themselves, by buying houses and land.I do not agree with borders and urge Germany to stop the illegal passport controls.I do not agree with visa lotteries, because they are not fair.
(DIR) Post #AvpIZRRI3in6Ub6inI by MissWarcraft@mastodon.social
2025-07-05T14:50:48Z
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@stux All animals (Including Humans) have Territories. It is a way to ensure they can feed their family. They have always chased the interloper out of their territory. Occasionally a newcomer wilk ask to join. The leader will decide yes or no. The question is who decided we do not have the right to defend our children and what we have built? #Immigration
(DIR) Post #AvpJ5N41rSfKBpS6Qi by BernieDoesIt@mstdn.social
2025-07-05T14:56:33Z
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@stux Immigration is a human right.
(DIR) Post #AvpMWoEBH6bS7MyYxE by goleztrol@mastodon.social
2025-07-05T15:35:03Z
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@stux Objectively that sounds reasonable, but I wouldn't like it much if someone built their house in my backyard, or in my living room for that matter. I claim ownership because I bought it from the dude who bought it from the dude who bought it from the dude who once claimed it as their own.
(DIR) Post #AvpNMVpYv5rM7Q7Aga by MissWarcraft@mastodon.social
2025-07-05T15:44:26Z
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@stux @toriver I guess you are also telling Palestine, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Uganda, Turkey, Iraq, Yemen, Libya etc. do not have the right to borders? Or do you just mean European Countries?
(DIR) Post #AvpOqL4dZtbDOlx64O by MissWarcraft@mastodon.social
2025-07-05T16:00:58Z
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@stux Tell Iran's Ayatollah, or Putin and I really want to watch when you tell Kim Yong Un you go where you want when you want. Do post Video of how that went.
(DIR) Post #AvpPFpTlfWVewFrTbE by nightdream@sfba.social
2025-07-05T16:05:37Z
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@Chapz @stux look at the white house. thatâs bad people. look at us supreme court. majority bad people. just a couple of places you can find them.
(DIR) Post #AvpQWlpyYuCeWLtJfk by mjsberna@infosec.exchange
2025-07-05T16:19:58Z
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@stux Dreams crash into reality.Imagine, there's no country, .... .Schengen (in Europe),....Something to cry for.
(DIR) Post #AvpSMCHm5SjNGuyoHw by OWOP@mastodon.world
2025-07-05T16:40:27Z
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@stux One World One People Borders The moment is limitless and without boundaries. On the surface of the world we have created borders between people and lines on maps. These limits to your movements and interactions with others have been created for the protection of order and wealth. They will always be corrupted to secure greed and a disparity between people that is unnecessary.*This is the first part of the Borders text. It continues to describe a long hard transition.
(DIR) Post #AvpTjxa2VrbqZHPyRU by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-05T16:55:54Z
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I deliberately start my post with "personally I..." because it's the way how I think about a certain subject in a given timeAs we all know, there is a LOT more to it then just an idea or visionAt this point in time the world is going through a lot of trouble and my idea or vision does not make super much sense, I knowIt's just how, I personally again, would like to see the world turn outUnfort we are not ready for this, if ever
(DIR) Post #AvpTos5QMlLUyeRKZE by GottaLaff@mstdn.social
2025-07-05T16:56:50Z
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@stux This is why I adore you, stux
(DIR) Post #AvpTsBHZS7rxNghQSe by stux@mstdn.social
2025-07-05T16:57:21Z
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@GottaLaff You're too sweet! â€ïž
(DIR) Post #AvpTsrp1I9a5JafjQe by GottaLaff@mstdn.social
2025-07-05T16:57:35Z
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@stux â€ïž
(DIR) Post #AvpUzE4pYqNE1sfCSG by dgar@aus.social
2025-07-05T17:09:52Z
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@stux One must first imagine a better world before they can create it.Keep sharing your vision of the world youâd like to see. đ«¶
(DIR) Post #AvpWDrbNVMMycdQmI4 by dusk@todon.eu
2025-07-05T17:23:46Z
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@stux HELL YES. NO ONE IS ILLEGAL ON STOLEN LAND.From #behindTheBastards :âThe maintenance of every border implies violence. And this is both physical borders like the border between us in Mexico, and like what you're seeing right now with the attempt to legislate like what counts as a woman, with all these anti-trans things. Both of those borders are maintained by men with guns, with violence. There's the threat of violence behind building every one of those borders. If you cross this border, or at least cross it in the wrong way, force will be used against you. Every democracy does this, and it does this not just in terms of who can enter the country, but who gets to vote.[...]. . . because what you do as the reactionary is you find that border wherever it exists, and you start pushing inward. And as you start pushing inward from that border, you will start fracturing the democratic consensus that exists until you can destroy democracy. And that's how you gain power as a reactionary movement within a liberal That's how you destroy liberalism. You find the border that they placed and you start pushing inwards. That's what Carl realizes, and that's what he lays out, and it works today as well as it did back then.âHere's more context, and the episode link:https://todon.eu/@dusk/114643080672192043
(DIR) Post #AvpWOI5VswJhfAUxwu by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2025-07-05T17:25:42.436947Z
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Borders are very useful because they give you freedom to choose what kind of place you will live in.Libraries should be quiet, music festivals should be loud, and borders are what establish the boundaries of each. If somebody wants to read a book at a music festival, that's fine, but if somebody wants to play music in a library, that's not fine. The only way that a library can keep being ... a library ... is by asking them to stop, and if they won't stop, then excluding them.The same thing goes for countries, there are people who want to live in safe and rules-oriented countries like Switzerland. And then there are people who want to live in more exciting and dynamic countries where people are not so focused on rule-following. The only way that these "rules oriented" countries can keep being what they are is by excluding those who are not good neighbors.
(DIR) Post #AvpXyTsvbLdId7QsYi by iju@mastodon.social
2025-07-05T17:43:22Z
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@stux Border control was meant to be a temporal measurement during WW1, but somehow it stuck around :/
(DIR) Post #AvpYSKlU4eVh23BZRI by Nibor4000@social.vivaldi.net
2025-07-05T17:48:47Z
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@stux @Chapz Bad people, like fare dodgers đhttps://youtu.be/jURfZxp9E6w
(DIR) Post #AvpZsbVQYOcwR8lWkq by FishNamedDog@mastodon.social
2025-07-05T18:04:44Z
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@stux See that sounds nice but world government/anarchy (as you get without countries) would be bad for minorities. In the case of a world government, there'd be *nowhere to go*. Right now it's theoretically possible for Tibetans or Uyghurs to leave China -- if the world government, which after all is going to be ~17% Chinese, goes after them, they're screwed.If it's anarchy, well, say you're a queer person in a small, VERY red town in a blue state. Anarchy means no punishment for them.
(DIR) Post #AvpacUzF7jvTXTb0iG by bzdev@fosstodon.org
2025-07-05T18:13:03Z
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@stux Here's why you have different countries:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzQuuoKXVq0
(DIR) Post #AvpbFScPrXDBUJUtYe by strawhousepig@mastodon.social
2025-07-05T18:20:01Z
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@stux Consider what people like the Tohono O'Odham are still putting up with.https://www.tonation-nsn.gov/nowall/
(DIR) Post #AvpbkLU8R1RmLBLp1E by geoffl@mastodon.me.uk
2025-07-05T18:25:39Z
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@stux https://youtu.be/Q54lVO7elt0
(DIR) Post #AvpgM37xXJ3cE5DEm0 by Robo105@mastodon.social
2025-07-05T19:17:19Z
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@stux True but realistically humans have done this throughout all of history
(DIR) Post #AvpjT2ySntRvdmncGm by david@fouroclockfarms.club
2025-07-05T19:52:09Z
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@stux I feel the same way about the concept of âowningâ land. Itâs always been there. Some dude shows up and few centuries ago and goes âmine!â One cannot âownâ a piece of the planet. They can only claim it or take it from someone.
(DIR) Post #AvpkLlLo1raWuRo9a4 by gooba42@mastodon.social
2025-07-05T20:02:00Z
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@stux I don't know how this eventually turns out but I'm really happy to see the right questions being asked.
(DIR) Post #AvppLzF6sWjplWbOUa by Bridger@mastodon.social
2025-07-05T20:58:01Z
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@stux Borders are a crime against humanity.
(DIR) Post #AvpwnVQ839UT3ppEHo by krisvdm@mastodon.nl
2025-07-05T22:21:29Z
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@stux The borders are keeping the Americans and Russians away from us
(DIR) Post #AvpyEaVPLqNobZlvnc by GarLipow@mstdn.social
2025-07-05T22:37:37Z
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A personal memoir essay by me touches on this a bit. It is the story of how my Mother's brief career as international jewel smuggler at the age of 8 in 1929 led to her becoming Anti-Zionist in 1979. It contains a bit of left history and a bit of American Jewish history and contains some thoughts on nationalism. https://znetwork.org/znetarticle/jews-dont-do-that/ @stux
(DIR) Post #AvqhGeWtrBJxbNpRXU by Clutha@mastodon.scot
2025-07-06T07:02:11Z
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@stux Hardly âcheering up newsâ that Muskâs considering his own party.
(DIR) Post #AvrobvVEq7JBA66QYi by andybrwn@sfba.social
2025-07-06T19:59:13Z
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@stux @Arkenston Itâs rooted in the concept of private property, which is the keystone of capitalism
(DIR) Post #AvrpXjjgkMPvSmQZfM by uk@ukraine.rs
2025-07-06T20:09:41Z
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@stux For example but personally you could be a terrorist or even worse a russian. Why should decent states allow you in their sweet home?
(DIR) Post #Aw2GFBI6iJKRlUVDbE by nomand@mas.to
2025-07-11T20:55:54Z
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@stux Personally, I have issues not with the concept of "country", but with the concept of "visas'" - tourist and transit visas (work permits are another matter). Requirements for visas to visit or even pass through a country are just a way for one government to show its dislike of another government, at the expense of its citizens.#visa