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(DIR) Post #AvfKpJf1W6JvZ2H104 by Svantovit@detroitriotcity.com
2025-06-30T19:29:04.421114Z
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Old school Christians:Which books of the apocrypha would you recommend a protestant start with?
(DIR) Post #AvfL7371mWjBS8pOjI by BudSpencer@poa.st
2025-06-30T19:32:14.611535Z
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@Svantovit Maybe you should clarify what you are looking for, because there are a lot.
(DIR) Post #AvfLYe68NVevyqZLNo by hazlin@shortstacksran.ch
2025-06-30T19:37:15.515245Z
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@Svantovit My recommendation for apocrypha is going to start, and end with the book of Enoch.I've tried several of others, but most do not have anything meaningful to say.On the other hand, the Bible assumes you already know the book of Enoch, and so if you want to understand the rest, it is like a corner stone.
(DIR) Post #AvfLgpgrA7HgFYeKVk by BudSpencer@poa.st
2025-06-30T19:38:42.820885Z
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@Svantovit If you are looking for Jesus doing magic tricks the childhood Gospel by Thomas is kinda interesting. If you are looking for angels that could be aliens, maybe the book of enoch. If you wanna get into gnostic theory the judas gospel offers another perspective on jesus. Maybe @KingOfWhiteAmerica as an Orthobro can give you a more educated anwer from and Orthodox perspective.
(DIR) Post #AvfM1svALT8eLqNgUi by Svantovit@detroitriotcity.com
2025-06-30T19:42:32.627359Z
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It's almost exactly what the picture is but silver. It's a shadow silhouette of Jesus in the metal, not a figure soldered to a cross, i.e. a crucifix.
(DIR) Post #AvfMC9Mo3T9GFkCjsO by BudSpencer@poa.st
2025-06-30T19:44:22.738380Z
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@Svantovit i was talking about the apocryphae :-) but with your handle you should avoid crucifixes by any means.
(DIR) Post #AvfMlZ50Rljc8SlX0q by KingOfWhiteAmerica@poa.st
2025-06-30T19:50:46.683235Z
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@BudSpencer @Svantovit Enoch is getting a lot of mention - for good reason. While only the Ethiopian Tewahedo elevate it to Holy Scripture, the Ancient World nigh unanimously regarded it as a sincere and earnest attempt at describing the pre-Diluvian world, and the conditions that brought it about - even if not so authoritative as Biblical texts. On par with Enoch, I’d recommend The Wisdom of Solomon. It’s got probably the best single Messianic Prophecy (Wis. 2:12-20). It was sufficiently obvious, it directly led me to reconsider my thitherto Protestant Biblical position. Those are the two big ones. But I also recommend The Psalter According to the Seventy as translated by Holy Transfiguration Monastery. While not at all Apocryphal, it matches Gospel references to Psalms better than Masoretic-sourced material.
(DIR) Post #AvfMqOmy8TYrfOdMY4 by Svantovit@detroitriotcity.com
2025-06-30T19:51:40.447784Z
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lol I'm just a regular Stephen Dorff.
(DIR) Post #AvfMwivMBbBrqvZb2u by Svantovit@detroitriotcity.com
2025-06-30T19:52:48.939481Z
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@KingOfWhiteAmerica @BudSpencer That's much appreciated, brotato. :cheers:
(DIR) Post #AvfNTbPH9m4C5tFGcq by KingOfWhiteAmerica@poa.st
2025-06-30T19:58:44.402057Z
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@BudSpencer @Svantovit Oh and the Maccabees are really good if you’re a history buff. In fact, the entire OT Deuterocanon is good if you’re a historian, because they’re very significant historically, spanning the “400 Silent Years” (LOL!)
(DIR) Post #AvfNzob1eb32Gd6Lh2 by BudSpencer@poa.st
2025-06-30T20:04:33.398285Z
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@KingOfWhiteAmerica @Svantovit Oh absolutely agree... i didn't even consider those when i thought about it because in catholicism they are not considered apokryphae
(DIR) Post #AvfOPeNcGCCa6x9GCm by Svantovit@detroitriotcity.com
2025-06-30T20:09:15.342974Z
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@BudSpencer @KingOfWhiteAmerica I was asking about those books, though. The extra books the Catholics still consider canon. Start with Maccabees?
(DIR) Post #AvfOWTtTe61jcGJB5s by Svantovit@detroitriotcity.com
2025-06-30T20:10:29.013469Z
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My bad. I thought this was another thread.
(DIR) Post #AvfP1Ke25FLNuKnM6y by KingOfWhiteAmerica@poa.st
2025-06-30T20:16:00.886564Z
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@Svantovit @BudSpencer “Extra books” - 😤😁
(DIR) Post #AvfPJ121k7lGI8Rzfs by BudSpencer@poa.st
2025-06-30T20:19:08.810479Z
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@Svantovit @KingOfWhiteAmerica yeah, they are a good read.When talking to catholics you gotta be precise, because we consider maaaaaany many books apokryphae ourselves, and we kinda read those too in religious education, to understand why they haven't been canonized.
(DIR) Post #AvfPLtOAcDEpSMBBtw by KingOfWhiteAmerica@poa.st
2025-06-30T20:19:36.910575Z
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@Svantovit @BudSpencer Fun Fact:The Book of Tobit features an incarnation of the Archangel Raphael; this is Traditionally understood as having been referrenced in Hebrews 13:2 - “Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.” ~ Hebrews 13:2 KJV
(DIR) Post #AvfQpL5mnFXzjHBZRI by KingOfWhiteAmerica@poa.st
2025-06-30T20:36:15.561716Z
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@BudSpencer @Svantovit Oh and thank you Bud for reminding me; I only touched on OT Deuterocanon/Apocrypha !For NT; I highly recommend the Protoevangelion of James. Now, I personally believe it - but it’s controversial, and not without reason. But even if it crosses the line for you, it is very solidly historically attested as a Second Century document. Around 160AD. This isn’t itself proof of infallibility; but the implication of its antiquity is that very great Veneration of the Virgin Mary is easily one of the oldest provable features of Traditional Christianity, not specifically referenced in Scripture. If we’re wrong, then we’ve been wrong for a long time 😅