Post AvQsmsdPvD6HF6IboW by b_rain@troet.cafe
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 (DIR) Post #AvQsmsdPvD6HF6IboW by b_rain@troet.cafe
       2025-06-23T16:40:59Z
       
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       "each individual kid is now hooked into a Nonsense Machine" #school #AI #KI #meme #misinformation #desinformation
       
 (DIR) Post #AvSMT1yyEmwJDbcrj6 by larsmb@mastodon.online
       2025-06-23T18:26:59Z
       
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       @b_rain I've had to explain that LLMs are nothing at all like search engines to friends who are highly educated and, overall, likely smarter and more capable of complex thought than myself.They're just not computer science educated, and understand computers as good at numbers and large database retrievals. Which is the exact opposite of #LLMs.Society isn't ready for them at all.
       
 (DIR) Post #AvSMf1cLQ6udYslIki by lispi314@udongein.xyz
       2025-06-24T01:46:38.712946Z
       
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       @dalias @b_rain @larsmb @foolishowl Social engineering (including propaganda and manipulation) wouldn't be an active field of research & effort if it didn't work.Many people prefer to avert their attention rather than understand to mitigate what risk they can (unfortunately, some things work /even/ if one knows how they work and that they're being used).
       
 (DIR) Post #AvSMkML5nwmrHEEhJg by bobjonkman@mastodon.sdf.org
       2025-06-24T03:18:56Z
       
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       @meadow> ask the LLM to cite its sources.A friend has been marking student papers recently (I don't know on what topic, but the friend is a microbiologist). He says that some papers are definitely made up by LLMs, complete with made up citations. But where the citation links actually lead to source documents, it turns out those source documents are made up by LLMs too.It's nonsense machines, all the way down.@noodlemaz @MxVerda @Gustodon @b_rain
       
 (DIR) Post #AvSMsX1Ry7KEj7wfaa by ridscherli@troet.cafe
       2025-06-24T05:23:25Z
       
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       @dalias @larsmb @b_rain This!A key competence is to know which tool to use for which task.You don't know the purpose of a tool and use it anyway? You are surely not smart.You know that it is the wrong tool but don't care for its limits? You are surely not smart.This has nothing to do with some digital understanding. Why would one use a torx screw driver for pozidriv screws? Why would one want to use an LLM as retrieval machine? A smart person knows what their tools are able to do.
       
 (DIR) Post #AvSMsYNSvkWuvhFlXk by larsmb@mastodon.online
       2025-06-24T08:06:39Z
       
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       @ridscherli @dalias @b_rain Nobody knows that immediately when confronted with a completely new tool, especially one that behaves very differently to all other tools that looked the same before, and when they've been lied to by almost everyone (not just for-profit corporations) about the capabilities.I think it is very important that we understand why LLMs are so often misunderstood so we can fix it — not be condescending to our friends is probably helpful in that regard.
       
 (DIR) Post #AvSMsZTWqgySKn67dI by ridscherli@troet.cafe
       2025-06-24T10:23:18Z
       
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       @larsmb @dalias @b_rain It's always your own decision when you stop to verifying your source of information. Who told them that the new tool is an answering machine instead of a wording machine? Why did they stop asking another expert?There is surely a YouTube video explaining how to fix the plumbing installation with tape. Still it's my responsibility if I do this at home.No matter which education: those who believe rather in PR texts than experts, are missing some kind of complex thinking.
       
 (DIR) Post #AvSMsiCqO5yXPeMQNM by ridscherli@troet.cafe
       2025-06-24T10:30:37Z
       
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       @larsmb @dalias @b_rain Of course there are many questions:Why do we accept a society in which advertisement is regarded a kind of information? Why is it possible to get a school or other grade by only repeating some facts and forgetting them afterwards?Why do we listen to the loud and not to the calm?But at the end of the day it's always my decision: do I ask the electrician for recommendations on wall paint? Do I use a new software tool based on documentation or on the neighbour's opinion?